What Came Next

Content warning:  arson, assault, fetal abduction, kidnapping, attempted murder, murder, substance use, and substance use disorder. Angelique Robledo is an incredible mother and survivor living in Arizona. She was born in Southern California, but after a pivotal move nearly four hundred miles east in her middle school years, she found herself having trouble fitting in. Several years later, and not...

Content warning: robbery, armed robbery, gun violence, domestic violence, extortion, and corruption. Maya is a teacher, artist, and multi-crime survivor from Los Angeles. After finishing her undergraduate degree in Spanish in 1996 (at the age of 22), Maya found herself seeking direction. But it was only a couple months after her graduation that she experienced a life-changing armed robbery. Not lo...

Content warning: depression, suicidal ideation, suicide, sexual assault, rape, and sexual abuse. As shared in Episode 52 'What Happens Next // Part Two' (which originally aired on January 12th, 2024), Kelly Gee is a former professional hockey player and coach, and the current powerhouse executive director of the non profit organization Survivors for Change. Kelly has always been driven to make an...

Content warning: depression, suicidal ideation, substance use disorder, sexual assault, rape, and sexual abuse. As shared in Episode 51 'Against Big Odds // Part 1' (which originally aired on January 5th, 2024), Kelly Gee is a former professional hockey player and coach and the current executive director of the non profit organization Survivors for Change. Kelly has always been driven to make an i...

Content warning: sexual abuse and child sexual abuse. It has been a great honor to host Mike Sacks and Kelly Gee on What Came Next prior to this conversation. Kelly first shared his experiences of abuse in episodes 51 and 52, entitled “Against Big Odds” and “What Happens Next,” which aired in January of 2024. Episodes 109 and 110, entitled “Silence is an Incubator” and “Up to Us to Protect,” were...

Content warning: child sexual abuse material, child sexual assault, sexual assault, nonconsensual pornography, sexual violence, sexual paraphilia, and pedophilia. Kim is a mother and nurse from Indiana. She reached out to the Broken Cycle Media team in hopes of sharing her story for the first time to bring awareness to a trajectory she never thought she would have had to traverse. Nearly a decade...

Content warning: child sexual abuse material, child sexual assault, sexual assault, nonconsensual pornography, sexual violence, sexual paraphilia, and pedophilia.  Kim is a mother and nurse from Indiana. She reached out to the Broken Cycle Media team in hopes of sharing her story for the first time to bring awareness to a trajectory she never thought she would have had to traverse. Nearly a decade...

Content warning: assault, sexual assault, rape, serial rape, and nonconsensual pornography. As shared in part one of her story, Hannah Vanderhorst is a special education teacher and administrator living in Denver, Colorado. Having moved to the city in 2016, just before going through a breakup, Hannah turned to dating apps to expand her social circle and look for potential love. However, an October...

Content warning: assault, sexual assault, rape, serial rape, and nonconsensual pornography.  Hannah Vanderhorst is a special education teacher and administrator living in Denver, Colorado. Having moved to the city in 2016, just before going through a breakup, Hannah turned to dating apps to expand her social circle and look for potential love. However, an October 2019 date changed her trajectory f...

Content warning: pedophilia, sexual sadism, paraphilia, psychopathy, brutality, child sexual abuse material, rape, sexual assault, torture, and murder. Joan Hoyt is a business professional and family woman from Santa Cruz, California. Although she has proudly served her county as a juror before, a 2024 jury duty assignment opened her eyes to the harsh realities of a criminal justice process she wo...

Content warning: fraud and professional abuse. As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder w...

Content warning: fraud and professional abuse. As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder w...

Content warning: fraud, professional abuse, child sexual abuse material, and gun violence.  Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its...

Content warning: substance abuse disorder, lethal substance consumption, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship. As shared in part one of her story, Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profi...

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship. Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised...

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, narcissistic abuse, cultic abuse, cults, and sexual abuse. Liz Iacuzzi is an athlete, writer, performer, and personality who focuses  on exploring uncomfortable subject matter through comedy. However, it wasn’t until extricating herself from an acting class-turned-cult that she would eventually discover her next passion: educating the...

Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse. Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors o...

Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse. Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors o...

Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, and murder. Stacy Kaiser is a licensed psychotherapist, relationship expert, author, and speaker. She was drawn to Psychology in youth and finds deep value in helping others navigate some of the hardest portions of their lives. In this thoughtful conversation, Stacy shares about the field of psychology, offers tips on finding the right...

*Content warning: car accidents, medical trauma, stalking, medical fraud, doula fraud, birth worker abuse, domestic violence homicide, murder, legal abuse.  Please sign our petition to hold Jessica Polly accountable: https://www.change.org/p/hold-jessica-polly-accountable Please sign Amy’s petition to keep Jesse Winnick in Prison: https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-lo...

Content warning: sexual assault, physical violence, brutality, and murder. Karie Kroll is a nurse of over 30 years, a family woman, and a co-victim of murder from Iowa. She found her passion for nursing at a young age and pursued a degree in the medical field out of college. However, it was not long into her professional trajectory that her family experienced a devastating loss: the horrific 1996...

Content warning: gun violence, armed robbery, grand theft, and home invasion. Milena Monrroy is a Los Angeles-based producer and the co-host of the podcast Latina Life with Jen and Milena. Her life has been largely influenced by her roles as a single mother and a storyteller, but her trajectory took a drastic turn when she became a victim of a home invasion and armed robbery in January of 2022. Th...

Content warning: suicidal ideation, intimate partner violence, criminal threats, domestic violence, physical, mental, emotional, and psychological abuse, and gun violence. As shared in part one of her story, Elle Gargano is an entrepreneur, writer, survivor, and victim advocate from Southern California. She originally began sharing her story of resilience after attending the Las Vegas Route 91 fes...

Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, physical, mental, emotional, and psychological abuse, gun violence and mass murder. Elle Gargano is an entrepreneur, writer, survivor, and victim advocate from Southern California. She originally began sharing her story of resilience after attending the Las Vegas Route 91 festival and surviving a gunshot wound to the head. After enduri...

Content warning: domestic violence, physical violence, murder, and mass murder. Kyleigh McPeek  and Grace Carroll are recent graduates of Stanford University. While they were students there, they launched an honors project that took podcast form. In this special episode of What Came Next, they share about their work on the True Crime Podcast Podcast, and their goal to promote awareness about the i...