Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway
We've Got To Talk
Our story begins in the halls of the University of Iowa, go Hawks! It was there that two seemingly different paths intersected and a friendship blossomed. Despite our different upbringings—Jolene in little Pleasantville, Iowa, and me, Nicole, just across the Golden Gate Bridge in the bustling Bay Area—we became fast friends. And here we are, almost 40 years later, living in a world that often seems intent on drawing lines in the sand and choosing sides. So why "We've Got To Talk"? Because we truly believe that in this deeply divided society, the power of conversation can unite us. Our goal isn...
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Trump's Meme Coin Made Millions While You Got Played 23.07.2025 50:31
A politician launches a meme coin and makes millions overnight while regular investors lose their shirts. Sound familiar? It should, because it's the same story that's been playing out for decades - just with different players and shinier packaging. Today we're taking a look at Trump's latest money grab and asking the question nobody in Washington wants to answer: Why do the rules seem different f...
Why Everything Is Political Now And How It's Breaking America 16.07.2025 49:32
When did ordering coffee become a political statement? When did choosing a grocery store require checking their donation records? Everything in America has become a battlefield - immigration, crime, even due process. Today we tackle the exhausting reality of living in a country where literally everything gets filtered through red and blue lenses, and ask the question nobody wants to answer: How do...
What does Mamdani's Primary win say about the future of the Democratic party? 09.07.2025 1:04:42
When a progressive candidate wins NYC's Democratic primary, Republicans immediately cry "socialism" while Democrats are optimistic about change. Nicole and Jolene examine whether expanding city services is actually radical or just what every other developed country already does. This episode explores the weaponization of political labels, why Democratic voters are choosing progressives over modera...
Big Food Is Poisoning America - And The Government Is Helping Them Do It 02.07.2025 51:40
According to a study performed by the Commonwealth Fund , Americans are sicker than ever while spending more on healthcare than any other countr y. Let that fact sink in for a moment. For a developed nation, we expect so much better for our country and we desperately want to see change. So why are Americans spending so much on healthcare, and still getting sicker? it seems that the answer is...
Army Parades vs. Anti-Government Protests: When Patriotism Gets Complicated 25.06.2025 35:44
Two massive events dominated the weekend: the Army's 250th anniversary parade and the No Kings March. One celebrated military might with millions in taxpayer dollars, the other protested government overreach with signs and chants. Both claimed to represent "real America." So which one actually does? We’re digging into the messy reality of modern patriotism and ask the uncomfortable question: Can y...
We Got DESTROYED on TikTok- The Social Media Backlash Nobody Warned Us About 22.06.2025 8:20
Two friends. One TikTok account. Complete chaos. What started as an innocent attempt to share our conversations quickly turned into a masterclass in online brutality. From weird yelling videos in the DMs to comment sections that looked like digital war zones, we learned the hard way that TikTok doesn't play nice with nuanced political discussions. This episode shares some of the behind the scenes...
Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice: What Happens When Best Friends Disagree on Abortion 18.06.2025 51:26
Abortion. The word alone can end friendships, split families, and turn dinner parties into war zones. So what happens when a conservative Catholic woman and a liberal feminist sit down to discuss reproductive rights? Today's episode tackles the most divisive issue in America through the lens of a nearly four-decade friendship that's survived everything - including this. Here's what makes this conv...
Assumption vs Reality: How Democrats and Republicans Misunderstand Each Other 11.06.2025 33:11
Ever catch yourself making snap judgments about someone based on their political views? That MAGA hat automatically equals racist? That Biden sticker means socialist? We're all guilty of it, and it's destroying our ability to have real conversations. Today's episode exposes the shocking truth about how wrong we are about each other - and why our assumptions are keeping us trapped in our own echo c...
First Kisses, Underage Sorority Parties and Our Deepest Fears 04.06.2025 26:47
Everyone has those stories. The ones that shaped us, scarred us, or made us laugh until we cried (and maybe peed a little bit). Today's episode strips away the serious topics to reveal the raw, ridiculous, and sometimes embarrassing moments that made Nicole and Jolene who they are. From childhood dreams of stardom to saving lives - these are the stories you’ve never heard. Today's reminder? Behind...
Biden's Cancer Bombshell: Coincidence or Calculated? 24.05.2025 33:25
The White House has a new crisis on its hands, and it's not just medical. President Biden's aggressive prostate cancer diagnosis dropped like a bomb this week, leaving Americans with more questions than answers. Was this really breaking news to his medical team, or just to us? Today's episode digs into the suspicious timing, the convenient narrative shifts, and the uncomfortable question we’re all...
Religion, Identity & Social Media: Having IMPOSSIBLE Conversations in 2025 21.05.2025 30:28
Some topics feel impossible to discuss in 2025. They're too loaded, too painful, too complex. Today's episode tackles one of the most challenging: the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Through Nicole's personal journey as someone with Jewish heritage, we explore what happens when identity, politics, and humanity collide. No easy answers, just real conversation about issues that matter. For Nicole, the...
Is Ozempic the wonder drug we need? 14.05.2025 38:03
Every woman knows that number. The one on the scale that determines if it's going to be a "good" day or a "bad" day. Today's episode strips away the Instagram filters and exposes the raw truth about weight obsession, body image, and the latest "miracle" drug everyone's talking about - Ozempic. From step aerobics in the 80s to modern-day weight loss shots, Nicole and Jolene confront the exhausting...
Why would a Christian woman vote for Trump? - your questions answered 07.05.2025 54:45
Ever wondered how a conservative Christian woman justifies voting for Donald Trump? Or how someone reconciles their faith with a leader whose behavior often raises eyebrows? Today, we're ripping off the band-aid and answering some of the questions that have been flooding our DMs. No sugar-coating, no dancing around the issues—just real talk about politics, faith, and those messy places where they...
Are we getting canceled? 30.04.2025 30:17
One wrong social media post. One controversial opinion. That's all it takes to see your business suffer in 2025. Today we’re taking a look at the brutal reality of cancel culture - what actually happens when your views don't match the majority. From death threats sliding into DMs to orchestrated boycott campaigns, Nicole and Jolene reveal the true cost of speaking up in an era where silence feels...
Disruption in DC: Elon Musk and the DOGE 23.04.2025 41:40
It's not every day you hear about a tech mogul transitioning to a pivotal role in government, yet here we are. When Donald Trump appointed Elon Musk as the head of the Department Of Government Efficiency, it sent shockwaves through every corner of Washington D.C. It's a bold move that has us curious, frustrated, and admittedly a bit nervous about what lies ahead. So what does this truly mean...
10% on EVERYTHING? Trump's Latest Tariff Bombshell 16.04.2025 43:27
The White House has become America's most dramatic reality show, with policy changes dropping faster than a new Netflix series. Trump's latest plot twist? A fresh wave of tariffs that are sending shockwaves from Wall Street to Shanghai. Just when the global markets thought they had the script figured out, this new economic bombshell is rewriting international trade rules and leaving world leaders...
Our take on DEI Rollbacks 09.04.2025 39:32
Hold onto your hats, folks—we're about to tackle one of the most heated topics in the current US political landscape. Trump's recent rollback of DEI initiatives has set off a firestorm of reactions, and this topic is anything but simple. You know what's fascinating? The sheer audacity of this move has created a natural experiment in corporate values. While some companies scrambled to f...
Debating RFK’s Role as Secretary of HSS 02.04.2025 41:11
In our latest episode, we tackled a story that reads like a political thriller—Robert F. Kennedy Jr's appointment as U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services. This isn't just another political appointment; it's a narrative that challenges everything we thought we knew about party lines, public health, and the dance between science and politics. Picture this: A Kennedy—yes, from that Kenne...
Presidential Pardoning Power: A Necessary Tool or Ethical Dilemma? 26.03.2025 36:08
Should the President of the United States hold the power to grant pardons? In our latest podcast episode, we tackled this burning question, particularly focusing on the pardons issued by Trump related to the January 6th Storming of the Capitol event. Should such pardons be allowed, and do they hold ethical ground? During our discussion, we explored the ramifications of pardons issued b...
What does it mean to be a liberal vs a conservative? 19.03.2025 35:25
Left or right? Progressive or traditional? These labels have become battle cries in our modern society, yet they barely scratch the surface of who we truly are. Beyond the oversimplified boxes of 'liberal' and 'conservative' lies a rich tapestry of human experience that defies easy categorization. Today, we're peeling back the layers of these identities—not just as political badges, bu...
Do We Need A Wall At the Border? 12.03.2025 38:49
Immigration: a hot-button topic that conjures knee-jerk reactions from racism to compassion, depending on who you ask. It's a question of humanity, security, and policy—a multifaceted issue that's as confusing as it is consequential. In this article, we are doing our best to discuss the issues with border security at the United States' southern border, and how the media portrays the situation diff...
Why Republicans and Democrats Need to Talk Now 05.03.2025 24:32
It’s clear that meaningful conversations between Republicans and Democrats have never been more crucial. It's time we stop the finger-pointing and just start talking to each other. Our goal here is to humanize the dialogue and inspire others to do the same. For Jolene and me, our friendship began with curiosity and mutual respect back in college. Jolene was my first Republican friend, a small-town...
What Happened on January 6th? 28.02.2025 21:16
In today's polarized political climate, finding common ground can feel like an insurmountable task. Yet, in our almost 40 years of friendship, we've learned that it's the tough conversations, the ones we might be a little hesitant to have, that often bring us closer together. As we sat down to discuss the events of January 6th, 2021, we realized just how much the divide between conservative and li...
Democrat vs Republican: Reaction to Trump's Re-Election 26.02.2025 25:50
In this episode, I share the story of my extraordinary almost 40-year friendship with Jolene, two women who found themselves on opposite sides of the political spectrum during Trump's re-election in 2024. I open up about my journey as a Democrat, while my dear friend Jolene brings her Republican perspective to our conversation, showing how we've managed to maintain respect and understanding during...
Welcome to We've Got To Talk 17.02.2025 2:45
Our story begins in the halls of the University of Iowa, go Hawks! It was there that two seemingly different paths intersected and a friendship blossomed. Despite our different upbringings—Jolene in little Pleasantville, Iowa, and me, Nicole, just across the Golden Gate Bridge in the bustling Bay Area—we became fast friends. And here we are, almost 40 years later, living in a world that often seem...
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