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We Fight So You Don't Have To
Best friends and co-authors of seven novels, including the Amazon Charts bestselling book, The Good Widow, Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke use biting humor to share lessons they’ve learned during their thirty-year friendship. They talk about their ups—and especially their downs. Including sharing the brutal truth about the rejection they’ve faced in the publishing industry. Listen in and hear for yourself why Liz and Lisa have also cultivated a passionate following on social media. They tell it like it is. They laugh—or in Liz’s case, snort—at themselves. They aren’t afraid to expose their own flaws...
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Episodes
Episode 38| The Struggle Bus with Michelle Gable 26.06.2022 34:09
Up next for a ride on the struggle bus is New York Times bestselling author, Michelle Gable. Find out why Michelle says she still struggled in publishing after she hit the list. Michelle doesn't hold back as she takes us through the highs and lows of her career. And she gives us her secret on why she never gave up. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST...
Episode 37| Looks Like We Made It! 13.06.2022 27:38
LIz and Lisa (and Barry Manilow!) announce the good news that they have another book deal! Forever Hold Your Peace will be published in the summer of 2023! It's been a long year and a half of editors choosing to "step aside" (listen to their rejection series if you haven't already) so they are beyond excited to be bringing another novel out into the world. Listen in as they give all the details on...
Episode 36| The Struggle Bus with Nicole Hackett 25.05.2022 29:34
Liz and Lisa have invited authors to take a ride on the struggle bus and talk about the hard times they've experienced in their publishing careers. Their next passenger is author Nicole Hackett who wrote six books and had two agents before she finally got her first book deal. Listen to find out why she never gave up despite the many failures she faced. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa...
Episode 35| The Struggle Bus with Catherine McKenzie 02.05.2022 38:40
Liz and Lisa have invited authors to take a ride on the struggle bus and talk about the hard times they've experienced in their publishing careers. Their first passenger? Internationally best-selling author, Catherine McKenzie, who talks candidly about the failures, the rejection, and the tears. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 34| How to Not Murder Your Co-author 11.04.2022 39:19
Liz and LIsa's rejection series continues. In this episode, they answer a question they're often asked: Should I try co-authoring a book? If you're thinking about writing a novel with another person, then you must listen to the many ways Liz and LIsa have almost broken up. Find out what they've learned from transitioning from friends to business partners and how they've managed not to kill each ot...
Episode 33| Finding Your Joy in a Sea of Rejection 11.04.2022 26:34
Liz and LIsa's rejection series continues. They have heard from so many authors who have lost the joy of writing. (Liz has too!) They do a deep dive into why it happens and how to pull yourself out of it. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 32 | On a Wing and a Prayer 20.03.2022 31:09
In the fourth episode of their rejection series, Liz and Lisa finally reveal the current status of their career, and butcher a classic theme song. You'll have to listen to understand. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 31 | We're All In This Together 20.03.2022 34:30
Liz and Lisa were shocked by the incredible response to the first two episodes of their rejection series. In this episode, they discuss their surprise that so many authors are in the same boat as they are, and why everyone is afraid to talk about their failures publicly. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 30| Failing Forward 15.03.2022 28:04
Liz and Lisa continue the series about facing rejection as authors. In this episode, they focus on how they've each coped with the tremendous amount of "we're going to step aside" emails they've received from editors. How they wrote not one, but two full manuscripts and neither has yet to sell. And how they've learned to be happy for others even while their own careers have gone into a ditch. Have...
Episode 29 | Coming Out Of The Rejection Closet 15.03.2022 27:31
This is part one of Liz and Lisa's series about the rejection they've faced in the publishing world. The subject of failing as an author (or anything else) is often taboo, but Liz and Lisa are ready to spill the tea on how hard the last two years have been. They take you behind the scenes and share the raw details about why they couldn't get out of bed for days. And what finally happened to give t...
Episode 28 | Mango a Go-Go 08.02.2022 41:26
A missing cat. An awkward group text. A fight. Liz and Lisa are now achingly familiar with the phrase, toxic positivity and you'll find out why they now think twice before declaring to anyone that “It’s going to be okay!” Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 27 | The Best Friend Game 03.01.2022 32:07
Liz and Lisa put their thirty-year knowledge of one another to the ultimate test. Does Lisa know Liz's favorite color? Does Liz know how many speeding tickets Lisa has? And which one would want to be a lion if they could be an animal? Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 26 | And Just Like That. . . We've Aged 03.01.2022 29:07
Find out why Liz had to stop watching the first episode of the new series based on Sex and the City and why, after talking with Lisa about it on this podcast, she's ready to press play again. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 25: Liz & Lisa take Italy: Part 2 20.10.2021 1:04:50
How did Mike Fenton almost die? Who is Vincenzo? And why do we like the European version of ourselves wayyy better than the American? Listen to find out! Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 24: Before we meet again: Italy Part 1 20.10.2021 56:58
Liz and Lisa didn’t spend the entire trip to Italy together for a reason (Think: Previous slightly disastrous vacay to Grand Cayman: Episode 19). Find out what European adventures we had before we saw each other on the Amalfi Coast. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 23 | Life can be ruff 13.09.2021 34:10
Liz and Lisa have seven rescue dogs and one cat between them. (Lisa has two dogs and Liz has the rest. You do the math!) And now, Liz has taken in a German Shepard and needs an intervention ASAP. Can Lisa talk some sense into her? We love to hear from you! Email liz@lizandlisa.com for show ideas, comments or questions.
Episode 22 | Mike Fenton vs. the Pool Chairs 13.09.2021 34:24
Liz’s husband, Mike Fenton, whom we always call by his first and last name got his five minutes of Instagram fame during a recent trip to Cabo when he secured pool chairs like it was an Olympic sport. Liz chronicled his 6am chair-claiming-talents in her stories and women everywhere slid into her DMs to comment. Listen to find out why Mike Fenton was such a hit with the ladies!😅 We love to hear fr...
Episode 21| The Way We Were (And Maybe Shouldn’t Have Been!) 06.08.2021 33:30
Liz’s itching for a bold new do’, which sends her and Lisa down a rabbit hole where they analyze thirty years of bad hair choices. Think: perming your already curly hair! Make sure to check out the photographic evidence at www.lizandlisa.com/podcast . Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 20| The Phone Charger Blues 06.08.2021 26:35
We’ve finally set up a proper home studio to record our podcast and Liz has hijacked the episode to ask the question every parent wonders: WHY CAN’T MY TEEN CHARGE HIS PHONE PROPERLY? Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com .
Episode 19 | The Couples Vacay 05.04.2021 30:32
We travel together—a lot. When we aren’t jumping cities on book tour, we drag our husbands and family along on our book research adventures. And we’ve had some epic fights along the way. Listen in to find out why one battle caused Mike Fenton to jump into the raging ocean in Grand Cayman. We love to hear from you! Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com .
Episode 18 | Dating: The Adult Friendship Addition 05.04.2021 29:27
Why is it so damn hard for adult women to make new friends ? When geography separated us for a decade, we both dated our asses off struggling to find her. Listen to discover if we each found “the (other) one.” We love to hear from you! Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com .
Episode 17 | Liz V. Lisa: Who binged it better? 05.04.2021 34:10
Baking banana bread feels so last year in the best of ways. Liz and Lisa look back on quarantine and a find few similarities--including Home Editing every closet and drawer in their houses. But Binge watching and reading? They mostly disagree. Listen and find out why. We love to hear from you! Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com .
Episode 16| Failing the Friendship Quiz 23.12.2020 43:34
Liz and Lisa take a friendship quiz and their conversation shifts to an unexpected topic that has Lisa considering getting a therapist. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
Episode 15: The Journals of Mr. Ex 23.12.2020 33:47
The journals make another appearance! Why did Lisa dedicate FOUR notebooks to one man? And why did Liz have a crush on him? Listen to find out. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com .
Episode 14: Sex and the City and Us 23.12.2020 36:16
Liz and Lisa discuss the iconic TV show and why Lisa religiously attended Sunday night viewing parties while donning her tutu and Liz didn’t watch at all—until later
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