Emily Crandall & John McMahon
We Are The Deluge Podcast
Welcome to We Are the Deluge, a spoiler-free chapter-by-chapter podcast about the climate change novel The Deluge by Stephen Markley. For each chapter, we’ll be analyzing major themes, examining the politics of the chapter, suggesting pop culture accompaniments, tracking characters, shouting out the comedy in this dystopian (?) novel, and pitching punny episode titles. The catch? each of the six POV characters gets a specialized format remixing those core elements based on their role and the style of those chapters. Is this an overly elaborate, galaxy-brain podcast conceit? Yes. Do you want to...
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Emily Crandall & John McMahon
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Jun 4, 2026
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Episodes
16. Tony III (2031) – Rescuing What: Why is there an Action Movie in My Climate Fiction? 09.09.2025 1:13:32
Tony – who should have believed in the omen of his dreams – sees his academic and personal lives collide as climate disaster shifts from something he has been warning us about to something threatening his family, where action on climate looks a little different than what he has imagined. Action hero, questionable means, valiant […]
Interlude 9 (2031): Dude, When’s my Headline Splash? 26.08.2025 18:05
Once again, state violence in the novel have Emily and John pondering catastrophe and reality in our own world as readers… — — — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
15. Matt III (2031) – Sex Scandals, The Corporate Plutocracy and the Security State: Kate Morris wracks up losses in climate, life, love, and hope 19.08.2025 1:24:29
As climate legislations fails and devolves into police state hell, Matt flails in his relationships with Kate, and interrogates the nature of agency, love, and sex along the way. — — — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
14. Shane III (2030) – Too Late for Slogans 05.08.2025 1:19:29
Escalate. This podcast insists there is no accountability for lazy thinking in a boondoggle. EmilyIt wasn’t like she didn’t share the chapter’s disdain for the quasi-celebrities the climate non-movement kept spitting up. This wasn’t about Morris, though. For her to think about Fanon, the different registers and meanings of violence, and the gender politics of […]
Interlude 8 (2030): Generic AI-generated weather pun about terrible politics 22.07.2025 22:10
An LLM political analyst leans too hard on the weather puns to report on the political upheaval impacting climate legislation in the US — — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
13. Keeper III (2030) – You’re a Sinner in the Storm of an Angry God 15.07.2025 1:11:41
You push the boundaries of possibility for redemption as you once again fall into — but also explode — your familiar patterns. You feel the weather, the light, and the infinite sadness.  — — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s […]
12. Jackie II (2029) – Steer, Into the. Skid: Strategic Accommodation of the Persuadable Middle 01.07.2025 54:41
Jackie spearheads a counterintuitive ratf*** of an advertising strategy for the worst corporations in the world as she navigates her sex life and fights off an anti-nostalgic nostalgia — — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
Interlude 7 (2029): The Daily Deluge Podcast 17.06.2025 42:22
Join your hosts Emily Crandall and John McMahon as they interview climate fiction podcasting experts John McMahon and Emily Crandall about Kate Morris’ interview on The Conversation podcast. They dive deep into right-left cancel culture horseshoe theory, the media, notions of violence and non-violence, ecofeminism, and more. This episode is brought to you by AeroFresh […]
Interlude 6 (2029): Crandall and McMahon Ponder the Bleak Future – Or is it the Present? 10.06.2025 14:48
Alienated Young Men in 2029 Marveling at Markley’s Metafiction Multiplies Gaza as an “auto-kill” zone: when and how do people get politicized? — — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
11. Ashir II (2029) – Executive Summary on Sloppy Science and the Chaos of Reality 03.06.2025 1:20:26
Ash struggles with the tension between the adequate and the possible — challenging coalitional concerns with dispassionate empiricism, disappointing climate hardliners, and ultimately presenting an assessment of Pres. Randall’s climate plan including a forecast of 7-15 feet of sea level rise by 2100 and 550 ppm by midcentury. — — Our theme music is from […]
Interlude 5 (2028): OK, Boomer — Don’t Be A Climate Doomer 13.05.2025 21:29
The Climate Old Guard Forges Ahead As They Exit the Stage, But Have They Learned Anything About Politics? — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
10. Shane II (2028) – Slow Ends Our World: Society Must Not be Defended 06.05.2025 1:31:23
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to follow us – and Shane – down the surveillance and dataveillance rabbit hole of copious Panopticon references in order to rendezvous with Murdock. This summit occasions discussion about the weather as a character yet again, the crossover of motherwork and activistwork, revolutionary ethics, those pesky […]
9. Matt II (2028) – The Sensation of Density: Years of Boldness and Prudence 01.04.2025 1:15:04
Energized despair. Fugazi. Climate politics on the inside and the outside. Machiavelli and Hanna Pitkin. This self-consciously literary chapter situates the reader (and your hosts) in the midst of social movement decisions and strategizing as Kate and the FBF crew grapple with a surprise political offer…and conflicts around hierarchy in movements. What are Matt and […]
8. Tony II (2027) – Can you pierce collective delusions?: An exploration of climate change, kinship, and the politics of reality 18.03.2025 1:09:06
Your hosts follow Tony up and down the Magic Mountain to Davos to ponder billionaire shenanigans and unseriousness, the politics of reality, and the use and abuse of identity for politics. Plus they ask the crucial question (no, it’s not what Thomas Mann character they are): is Tony a good dad (and does that need […]
Interlude 4 (2026): Kate Chaos and Political Parties in Dark Times 04.03.2025 1:19:06
A Fierce Blue Fire’s Kate Morris Finds Beauty and Joy in Rejecting Partisanship as Usual, in her “last stand” Against Climate Change Once a pastiche of seemingly disparate characters and experiences of climate change, through Kate Morris and A Fierce Blue Fire, Stephen Markley defied the political limits of the novel, upended the plot of […]
7. Keeper II (2025) – The Freezing Hurricanes and The Keeper of the Keys 18.02.2025 1:02:12
You manage to loop in the Book of Ezekiel, William Faulkner, and the epistemology of whiteness into an episode about this Keeper chapter. You discuss the writing of addiction and the writing of Keeper’s associative thinking style. The geographies, climatic and otherwise, of late capitalism in the account of Ohio — not to mention Keeper’s […]
Interlude 3 (2025): 6 Degrees of Separation from the Climate Mainstream? 04.02.2025 20:07
Feds Reconfigure Terrorism to Include Dissent; Billionaires Baffled by Failure of Money to Thwart Bombs — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
6. Matt I (2017) – Hiking, Arendt, and Writing about Writing: How Markley introduces an avatar for himself and also the real (?) main character of The Deluge 28.01.2025 1:19:11
Is this chapter about POV character Matt, about activist Kate Morris, about ecofeminism, or about Markley himself? Trick question — it is all of the above. Join Emily and John as they decipher Kate’ ecofeminist day-to-day life and sick burns on white male writers, strike out on an excursion into the myths of wilderness and […]
Interlude 2 (2017): Tony Pietrus and The Wall Street Journal discover Climate Mao 21.01.2025 25:05
Why claims that environmentalists are socialists will never go away. — Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
5. Ashir I (2016) – DustMotes_Colossus.docx 14.01.2025 1:01:09
Today, Emily and John had a conversation that excavated the analytical reactions they’ve experienced due to this Ashir chapter, Ash’s views on human relationships, math, and finance, their academic training in Aristotle, the movie Uncut Gems, and, for reasons they try to articulate, the National Basketball Association. Consider this an effort to understand the ways […]
4. Keeper I (2015) – Anger and Dérangement in Ohio 07.01.2025 57:33
You podcast about Keeper. You hear yourself discussing the use of the second person, casual cruelty, the challenge and compulsion Keeper poses for the reader. You note the heat, the saturation, the drugs, the post-financial crisis hangover of it all. You raise the issue of Nine Inch Nails and Markley’s novel Ohio and Requiem for […]
Interlude 1 (2014): John and Emily Analyze Markley Headline Splash 07.01.2025 11:53
“This situates us right in late-Obama years and also raises key themes.”  “I had to look up the Breaking Bad quote.”  #dailywriting yo this must have taken so much research. Our theme music is from “I Can’t See the Milky Way Anymore” by Alex Rudnick. We heartily encourage you to check out Alex’s music.
3. Jackie I (2014) – Windy City Synergies of the Actor 17.12.2024 1:20:35
This chapter seemingly has little to do with being A Climate Novel, but after some classic (over)reading, your faithful hosts diagnose the overlapping political economy, millennial, cultural, and gendered landscape of Jackie’s twentysomething life in a climate-changing Midwest. Emily and John — despite not necessarily knowing what a pitch deck really is — secure the […]
2. Shane I (2014) – Build the Path 03.12.2024 1:13:35
Our first encounter with Shane Acosta (if that is even her name…) is as much about Murdock, her one-time comrade whose psyche is exposed through the WTF of the text boxes throughout the chapter. Shane tries to recruit Murdock for a mysterious mission, but can they bridge their two different standpoints on war, American nationalism, […]
1. Tony I (2013) – Distracted Ominous Foreboding: Unlikely Climate Warriors and the Phase Transitions of Methane Hydrates 20.11.2024 56:11
Emily and John go through a phase transition of their own in this first full episode of the podcast. Much like the methane hydrates that give the chapter its name and its POV character Tony dread, they are bubbling to the surface…the surface of Deluge podcasting. Your hosts explore the contested meaning of science and […]
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