Karen Tongson and Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh
Waiting to X-hale
A Gen X-themed show with podcast veterans Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh and Karen Tongson (Pop Rocket). W2X revisits the pop culture & social issues that defined Generation X from a (queer) woman-of-color perspective in a way that sheds new light on the pop culture from both then, and now.
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Karen Tongson and Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh
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Dec 18, 2023
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Episodes
Ep. 23: Cheer Up, Baby! 28.02.2020 1:02:05
This week, Karen and Wynter take on the Netflix phenomenon, Cheer , a docuseries about the championship cheer squad from Navarro College in Corsicana, TX. Wynter speaks candidly about what it's like to embark on life in her 40s, which includes taking a "Lexapause" to try and make a baby. Karen has taken on the daily ritual of trying to perfect the tornado omelette (or "omurice"), while explaining...
Ep. 22: Hostless with the Mostest - Oscars 2020 14.02.2020 53:36
What box subscriptions keep Wynter and Karen thrivin' and survivin'? Wynter tells us all about a very different kind of streaming service that serves up classic Blaxploitation, while Karen finally admits which celebrity chef taught her how to cook. It's Oscar season, so the two share their very different feelings about another hostless ceremony, while looking back on some of their favorites. Nuo-l...
Ep. 21: Hot For Terri/Terry - Looking Back at Just One of the Guys (1985) 07.02.2020 56:59
Wynter and Karen return from their holiday hiatus, and reflect on what 2020 has wrought thus far, and speak from the heart about the complicated feelings each of them experienced as Angelenos after the tragic death of Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna. The two tell us what entertainment sustained them during their break, and take a deep look back at one of E.W.'s "top 50 movies about High School...
Ep. 20: Gratitude & Holiday Hopes: 'Do They Know It's Christmas' vs. 'We Are The World' 29.11.2019 1:03:55
Grounded in the hopeful spirit of songs by Band Aid and U.S.A For Africa, Karen and Wynter chat about what they're grateful for in 2019 – and look forward to renewed focus and positive productivity in the coming year. While Wynter hopes Instagram removing likes from the platform eases our anxieties, Karen recommends a book on choosing activism that actually makes us feel good. The two also discuss...
Ep. 19: The Head That Wears The Crown: Early Elizabeth II vs. Silver Jubilee Elizabeth II 22.11.2019 1:00:49
Karen and Wynter couldn't resist diving into season 3 of Netflix's most opulent and expensive series, The Crown as soon as it was released. How do the two feel about the new cast, lead by Oscar-winner Olivia Colman & Helena Bonham Carter as we enter EIIR's midlife transformations? Karen has a little something to say about Gen Z labeling Gen X a bunch of "Karens." And as usual, nuo-lingo enhances o...
Ep. 18: Postmillennial Femme-inisms LIVE at USC: Sex & the City vs. The L-Word 15.11.2019 1:01:58
W2X goes back to school w/ Professor Tongson's class on U.S. Pop Culture LIVE at USC! Wynter is off on assignment, so Tre'vell Anderson from OUT magazine and Sarah Kessler, the TV editor for Public Books (and Karen's better half) join her for a backwards glance at the early 2000s and the "postfeminism" of Sex & The City vs. The L-Word. Tre'vell gives us the dish about Robyn Crawford's new memoir...
Ep. 17: Black Middle Class - 227 vs. Black-ish 08.11.2019 51:07
All hail Regina King! Her turn on HBO's The Watchmen alerted most of white America to the existence of a "Black Wall Street" in its opening depiction of the 1921 "Tulsa massacre." This episode explores the shifting TV representations of the BMC or "black middle classes," from King's debut in the 80s sitcom 227 to the Johnsons of Black-ish today. Karen and Wynter also talk GBBO gossip, 90 Day Fian...
Ep. 16: "The Nice Guys": Paul Rudd vs. John Cusack 01.11.2019 59:01
With the recent release of Paul Rudd's Netflix series , Living with Yourself , we began to ask ourselves which everyman, GenX heartthrob might be the "better" version of another? This week we stage a showdown between everybody's favorite nice guys, Paul Rudd vs. John Cusack. Wynter relishes in the boos heard 'round the world, as Nats fans confronted the president in their house. Karen declares Bon...
Ep.15: "Intimate Horror" & Female Anti-Heroes: Midsommar vs. Hereditary 25.10.2019 57:03
***SPOILER ALERT - MIDSOMMAR AND HEREDITARY PLOT DETAILS ARE DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE*** It's Halloween-time and modern-day horror ensnares Wynter who finally convinces Karen to watch Midsommar and Hereditary . Which movie could she not make it through?!? The two get into horror/suspense auteur Ari Aster's impressive body of work exploring intergenerational trauma, and what they call "intimate ho...
Ep. 14: The Gay 90s with Heather Matarazzo: Indie vs. Mainstream 18.10.2019 1:05:17
***SPOILER ALERT: MAJOR PLOT POINTS FROM THE JOKER ARE REVEALED IN THIS EPISODE*** Amazing guests keep rolling into W2X, and this week Wynter and Karen are joined by the one and only Heather Matarazzo, an actor, writer, director, who's played some of the most iconic roles in film and TV over the last 25 years, including Dawn Wiener in Welcome to the Dollhouse , Lily Moscovitz in the The Princess D...
Ep. 13: All Hail the Queen (Latifah, not that other lady): Cleo vs. Khadijah 11.10.2019 59:34
Wynter & Karen welcome Madin Lopez, a stylist and the founder of ProjectQ: a non-profit organization benefiting LGBTQ+ homeless youth by providing free gender-affirming haircuts, and safe-spaces, as well as life-skills workshops. On this National Coming Out Day, the three evaluate Queen Latifah's career and how her iconic characters, Cleo from Set it Off , and Khadijah from Living Single have infl...
Ep. 12: Ryan Murphy's Nostalgia Game - AHS vs. ACS 04.10.2019 1:01:17
With the recent debut of Ryan Murphy's American Horror Story: 1984 , Wynter and Karen take the occasion to explore his deeply nostalgic oeuvre to consider whether or not his dominion is 80s camp or 90s magic realism, i.e. horror stories or true crime stories? The two talk about where they were when Richard Ramirez, the serial killer known as the Nightstalker and resurrected in AHS 1984 , was wreak...
Ep. 11: The (Inappropriate) Objects of Our Affections: School Daze vs. Dear White People (TV series) 27.09.2019 1:01:01
Karen and Wynter travel all the way to the University of Mississippi in Oxford for their first live show, with special guests Kiese Laymon and Alysia Steele. The four of them get into our inappropriate objects of pop-cultural affection--or the many times each of them has been told they were wannabes, or didn't belong for being POC who like "problematic pop objects." Befitting their idyllic campus...
Ep. 10: On Becoming Kirsten Dunst: 1990s KD vs. 2000s KD 13.09.2019 56:20
All hail the goddess, Kirsten Dunst, who just received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and is turning heads with her spectacular turn as Krystal Stubbs on the new Showtime series, On Becoming a God in Central Florida. Karen & Wynter dive deep into her under-appreciated career, focusing on her debut decade (the 1990s), as well as her rise to box-office domination (in the 2000s). Wynter calls...
Ep. 9: X'ed out of D23 - The Cat from Outer Space vs. Flight of the Navigator 06.09.2019 58:06
Disney rolls out the reboots at its annual D23 convention and--surprise, surprise--there's little to tickle the fancies of Generation X, with all the devotion to Lizzie McGuire & HSM. Wynter & Karen remedy that by telling you which Disney reboots from the 70s & 80s they'd be interested in seeing, especially between The Cat from Outer Space vs. Flight of the Navigator. Karen fishes for a Netflix sp...
Ep. 8: Give us the Keys, Brandon: BH 90210-Brenda vs. Kelly 30.08.2019 48:04
Both Wynter and Karen try not to cry every time they talk about the dearly departed Luke Perry, aka Dylan McKay. The two dive headfirst into a long simmering debate from the last 30 years--Brenda vs. Kelly--as the Fox reboot, BH 90210 confounds and excites viewers with its many layers of meta. Wynter is excited about this year's VMA's (!?!?), but only because Dr. Missy Elliott received the Video V...
Ep. 7: Impeachment & Political Sex Scandals: 1998 vs. 2019 23.08.2019 59:31
Wynter and Karen are abuzz with news of the casting for Ryan Murphy's next season of American Crime Story on the Clinton impeachment, with Monica Lewinsky on board as a producer, and Beanie Feldstein playing Monica. Each reflect on that moment in history as a turning point when politics and tabloid journalism collided, and Fox News was but a fledgling cesspool of misinformation. They also consider...
Ep. 6: What the Wild Things Teach Us: Cocaine Bear vs. Meth Gator 16.08.2019 55:56
W2X goes wild as we conjure a raucous showdown between urban legends, Cocaine Bear vs. Meth Gator! Who are they? What are they? And what do they tell us about person-kind's relationship to nature as it's evolved since nature TV in the 1970s and 1980s? Wynter tells us all about the new boomer cable channel MeTV as we have a slight skirmish over GenX shows like The Facts of Life that also appear on...
Ep. 5: From Pin-Ups to Big Papas: Brad Pitt vs. Leonardo DiCaprio 09.08.2019 55:46
It's a battle of GenX matinee idols, Brad Pitt vs. Leonardo DiCaprio. Wynter and Karen reflect on the arc of Brad & Leo's careers in light of their latest joint venture, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. The two also reveal the special joys of "secret single behaviors" when they take themselves out without their spouses. Wynter hits the comedy clubs, and Karen talks about her close encounter with May...
Ep 4: YouTubin' with Generation X: Mentos vs. Diet Pepsi 02.08.2019 53:23
Pop open a Bartles & Jaymes, and pull your rocking chair up to your laptop, Wynter and Karen get into how Generation X uses YouTube, from nostalgic forays into old commercials and landmark pop culture moments, to how-to videos and instructional content. But they don't stop there: Wynter also scours YouTube for fresh content to break us all out of our slacker rut. Speaking of slackers, Karen revisi...
Ep. 3 - Summer Shenanigans: Summer School vs. Dazed & Confused 26.07.2019 54:11
'Tis the season for dogs wearing sunglasses, horndog teens and poolside rumpshakin'. Karen and Wynter get deep into summer shenanigans, both their own, and everything we've seen on screen since the 1980s. Karen is surrendering to yoga while catching up on Big Little Lies, while Wynter has some thoughts to share about all the online drama over casting a black Little Mermaid and black female 007. Al...
Ep. 2: Goonies vs. Stand By Me, and the Stranger Things of It All 19.07.2019 1:01:09
Wynter catches up with Karen after she returns from her month-long book tour abroad, and the two get into some of the things KT missed back in the U.S. of A. , including HBO MAX, and the new series Euphoria. Karen (who saw a couple of World Cup games in France) gets into how we are all living in Megan Rapinoe's Sapphic summer, and the two debate Goonies vs. Stand By Me--the coming-of-age films t...
Ep. 1: Pilot 10.07.2019 57:52
It's the debut episode of Waiting to X-hale, a Gen X-themed show with podcast veterans Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh and Karen Tongson. W2X revisits the pop culture & social issues that defined Generation X from a (queer) woman-of-color perspective in a way that sheds new light on the pop culture from both then, and now. In our first episode, Wynter & Karen welcome you to their world, and debate who'd...
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