Wade Center at Wheaton College (IL)

Wade Center

The Wade Center Podcast features interviews and discussions with scholars and figures related to Wade Center and our authors: C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Dorothy L. Sayers, George MacDonald, G.K. Chesterton, Owen Barfield, and Charles Williams.

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Wade Center at Wheaton College (IL)

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Apr 22, 2026

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Episodes

Influencing a Bandersnatch w/ Dr. Diana Glyer 10.07.2020

Did the Inklings influence each other? According to C.S. Lewis, "No one ever influenced Tolkien—you might as well try to influence a bandersnatch." With her two books  The Company They Keep  (2008) and  Bandersnatch  (2015), Dr. Diana Pavlac Glyer has turned Lewis's denial on its head. In this week's episode, Drs. Crystal and David C. Downing sit down with Glyer to discuss her groundbreaking work...

Mysticism & C. S. Lewis: Venturing into the Region of Awe 26.06.2020

Most people think of C. S. Lewis as a logician and level-headed theologian. Yet Lewis's fascination with Christian mysticism can be discovered throughout his books and letters. In this week's episode, Drs. Crystal and David Downing sit down with Producer Aaron Hill to discuss how C.S. Lewis's abiding interest in mysticism shaped his writings and his own spiritual life. Explore this side of Lewis f...

Letters to Lewis w/ Kathy Keller 12.06.2020

As a young girl Kathy Keller, then Kathy Kristy, boldly wrote a series of letters to C.S. Lewis. Those letters along with Lewis's books played a pivotal role  in Kathy's conversion and later in her ministry. Kathy is the wife of Timothy Keller the Founding Pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City. In this week's episode Drs. Crystal and David Downing interview Kathy remotely about h...

Romance at the Wade: C.S. Lewis, Romanticism, Sehnsucht and the Wade Authors 29.05.2020

C.S. Lewis labeled himself a Christian Romantic, but what is Romanticism? And how did it influence not just Lewis, but all of the Wade authors? This week Drs. Crystal and David Downing sit down with Producer Aaron Hill to discuss Romanticism as a literary and cultural movement and to explore these questions. This week's episode features so many great references to amazing paintings, poems, books,...

Adorning the Dark w/ Andrew Peterson 15.05.2020

Andrew Peterson adorns the dark of our fallen world with the light of Christ through his award-winning music and novels. Drs. Crystal and David Downing sit down with Andrew this week to discuss his recently released book  Adorning the Dark, conversing about homemade maple syrup along with what he has learned about the creative process from Wade Center authors such as C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Do...

"April is the Cruelest Month"—T.S. Eliot, C.S. Lewis, and Modernism 01.05.2020

You may know him as the poet whose work inspired the Broadway musical, and now infamous movie, Cats. T.S. Eliot, though, is widely recognized as one of (if not the ) best poets of the twentieth century for his Modernist classics such as "The Waste Land" (1922) and "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" (1915). Drs. Crystal and David Downing sit down to discuss T.S. Eliot's involvement in the Modern...

Revising the Ring: Tolkien's Early Drafts of "The Lord of the Rings" 17.04.2020

The genius of J.R.R. Tolkien is both inspiring and intimidating. How do you write, let alone revise, an epic fantasy like The Lord of the Rings ? Drs. David & Crystal Downing sit down in this week's episode to explore various ways that Tolkien revised and rewrote The Lord of the Rings , and what aspiring writers can learn from his early drafts. You definitely won't want to miss the many rejected c...

Post-Christian Evangelism w/ The C.S. Lewis Institute 03.04.2020

How do you share your faith in an increasingly post-Christian world? This week Drs. Crystal and David C. Downing sit down with leaders from C.S. Lewis Institute to discuss the challenges of defending the faith and making disciples in today's intellectual climate. President Joel S. Woodruff and Karl "KJ" Johnson, Director of the C.S. Lewis Institute in Chicago, explain the genesis of their organiza...

On Living in a Coronavirus Age w/ guest Dr. Jerry Root 20.03.2020

Over the last week, people have been turning to our authors, especially Lewis, for wisdom about how to live in this new coronavirus age. We felt like it was important to slow things down this week and ask, "what would our authors say in a situation like this?" Many of them, like Lewis, Tolkien, and Sayers, lived through two world wars and the Spanish Flu. Join Crystal and David as they sit down wi...

Rediscovering 'The Man Born to Be King' w/ Dr. Christine Colón and Marjorie Mead 06.03.2020

How can we possibly see the story of Jesus with fresh eyes this Lenten season? In this week's episode Dr. Crystal Downing sits down to discuss Dorothy L. Sayers's play-cycle on the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, The Man Born to Be King . Dr. Christine Colón (English Professor, Wheaton College) and Marjorie Mead (Associate Director, Marion E. Wade Center) unpack how Sayers used her...

Dragons & Angels: World-Making in Lewis and Tolkien w/ Dr. David C. Downing 21.02.2020

When is a dragon more than a dragon? In this week's episode Dr. David C. Downing (Co-Director of the Marion E. Wade Center and co-host of our podcast) sits down with Crystal and Producer Aaron Hill to discuss his inaugural lecture which compared the imaginary worlds created by C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien in their respective novels. Does the way that Lewis and Tolkien use dragons reveal something...

Czech-Mates: Lewis & Tolkien w/ Dr. Pavel Hošek 07.02.2020

The Czech Republic is one of the most atheistic countries in Europe, if not in the world. Despite this, many Czech people enjoy the works of C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. In this week's episode, Drs. Crystal and David C. Downing sit down with Dr. Pavel Hošek (Charles University in Prague) to discuss the impact of these two British Christian authors on the Czech people as well as his own spiritual...

"An Honest Adaptation Is a Betrayal"—Adapting The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien 24.01.2020

How do you adapt a literary work like The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien? Many fans of Tolkien's novels also love the movies which were directed and produced by Peter Jackson. Yet, as we discussed last week, movies and books are two entirely different mediums. Not everything on the page can make it into the movie. This week our two in-house Tolkien experts—Wade Archivist Laura Schmidt and Wad...

"Salvation from Cinema" w/ Dr. Crystal Downing 10.01.2020

Instead of reading novels, more and more people are watching movies and epic TV shows. With Oscar season upon us, we are focusing on movies this January with two special episodes. This week Dr. David C. Downing and Producer Aaron Hill sit down with our very own Co-director, Dr. Crystal Downing to discuss her recent inaugural lecture on Dorothy L. Sayers and cinema as well as her work on how Christ...

In Jack's Footsteps w/ Dr. Jerry Root 27.12.2019

You never truly know someone until you know where they are from: where they grew up, went to school, and have lived. Places shape us. In this week's episode, Dr. Jerry Root sits down with Drs. Crystal and David Downing to discuss how visiting the places from C.S. Lewis's life can shed light on the Oxford don. How did these locations inspire various characters, locations, and plot elements in Lewis...

One Year Anniversary | Year in Review 2019 13.12.2019

One year ago the Wade Center Podcast interviewed Douglas Gresham about his stepfather, C.S. Lewis! In this week's episode, Crystal and David sit down with producer Aaron Hill to look back at our best, funniest, and surprisingly profound moments from our almost 30 episodes in 2019. Thank you to all our listeners. You have helped our humble podcast reach tens of thousands of fans in over 60 countrie...

"Choosing Community" w/ Dr. Christine A. Colón 29.11.2019

What can detective novels teach us about community? Dorothy L. Sayers expert, Dr. Christine Colón (Professor of English at Wheaton College) returns to the podcast to talk about her new book, Choosing Community: Action, Faith, and Joy in the Works of Dorothy L. Sayers , based on her 2017-2018 Hansen lectures. Also joining this week's discussion on the theme of community in the work of Sayers is one...

The Discarded Mage: Charles Williams w/ Sørina Higgins 15.11.2019

J.R.R. Tolkien called him a witch doctor; C.S. Lewis called him a saint. Who was Charles Williams, the oddest Inkling? In this week's episode, Drs. Crystal and David C. Downing discuss Charles Williams, editor at Oxford University Press and practitioner of occult magic, with Sørina Higgins (Sørina is a Ph. D. candidate at Baylor University, faculty member at Signum University, and editor of the Wi...

A Holiday to Heaven: A Discussion of 'The Great Divorce' by C.S. Lewis 01.11.2019

What would happen if people could leave Hell and visit Heaven? In this week's episode, Dr. David Downing sits down with Dr. Jerry Root to discuss C.S. Lewis's spiritual fantasy about inhabitants of hell who visit take a bus ride to the outskirts of heaven, The Great Divorce . Where did Lewis get the idea(s) for the book? What was Lewis trying to say about who ends up in heaven and hell? Learn more...

BONUS: Why did Lewis choose Joy Davidman? 28.10.2019

In our second bonus episode, Patti Callahan Henry, author of Becoming Mrs. Lewis , interviews Dr. Crystal Downing about why C.S. Lewis chose Joy and how Dorothy L. Sayers helped Lewis appreciate brilliant, fiery women bristled against cultural gender expectations. This episode originally aired on Patti's new podcast on October 21, 2019. Check out her 7-part series,  Behind the Scenes of Becoming M...

BONUS: Did Lewis lose his faith after Joy's death? 21.10.2019

In this special bonus episode, Patti Callahan Henry, author of Becoming Mrs. Lewis , interviews Dr. David Downing about the grief of C.S. Lewis after the death of his wife, Joy Davidman Lewis, as well as its impact on Lewis's future writing, and ultimately, his faith. This episode originally aired on Patti's new podcast on October 14, 2019. Check out her 7-part series,  Behind the Scenes of Becomi...

The Mind of the Potter w/ David Hooker 18.10.2019

How does creativity work? What does it mean that we are created in the image of a Creator God? Professor of Art at Wheaton College, David Hooker, sits down with David and Crystal this week to discuss how he uses The Mind of the Maker by Dorothy L. Sayers to teach a trinitarian theology of art to his students. David also addresses how he handles the "what does it mean" question as an artist? Also,...

Impersonating C.S. Lewis w/ Max McLean 04.10.2019

How do you bring C.S. Lewis to life? Max McLean, well-known voice and stage actor, sits down with Crystal and David this week to discuss his stage adaptations of The Screwtape Letters , The Great Divorce , and now Surprised by Joy by C.S. Lewis. Listener's may recognize McLean's voice as the narrator of The Listener's Bible in the ESV, NIV, and KJV translations. His production company, Fellowship...

Chesterton and 'The Plight of the Indians' w/ Dr. Matt Milliner 20.09.2019

How can G.K. Chesterton's Everlasting Man help us interpret ancient cave paintings in North America through a Christian lens? In this episode, Associate Professor of Art History, Dr. Matt Milliner sits down with Crystal and David to offer a preview of his upcoming Hansen Lecture on October 3, 2019. In an effort to 'do what Chesterton did,' Dr. Milliner offers a Christ-centered reading of recently...

From Russia with Lewis w/ Dr. Olga Lukmanova 06.09.2019

How do you translate into Russian the English novels of C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, G.K. Chesterton, or George MacDonald? This week, Dr. Olga Lukmanova sits down with David and Crystal to discuss the challenges and triumphs of both translating and teaching the Wade authors to students in Russia.

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