Voices of Search // A Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Content Marketing Podcast

85% of brand mentions now come from third-party sources, not your website. Kevin Indig, Growth Advisor to over 40 companies including G2, Ramp, and Airbnb, reveals why most SEO teams are optimizing pages while visibility is won elsewhere. He discusses the critical shift from absolute metrics to relative share-of-voice measurements, the framework for testing AI visibility assumptions before over-in...

85% of brand mentions now come from third-party sources, not your website. Kevin Indig, growth advisor to over 40 companies including G2, Ramp, and Airbnb, reveals why most SEO teams are optimizing pages while visibility is won elsewhere—in reviews, Reddit threads, and community-driven content. The discussion covers transitioning from traffic-based metrics to share of voice and citation tracking,...

53% of users don't return to Google AI mode after initial attempts, revealing a gap between AI search hype and actual behavior. Garrett Sussman, Director of Marketing at iPullRank, brings enterprise-level insights from clickstream research and AI search performance data across major platforms. The discussion covers iPullRank's relevance engineering framework—encompassing AI information retrieval,...

iPullRank's clickstream research reveals 53% of users abandon Google AI mode after first use. Garrett Sussman, Director of Marketing at iPullRank, shares data-driven insights from enterprise AI search behavior analysis and user adoption patterns across multiple search platforms. The discussion covers relevance engineering frameworks for multi-platform visibility, three-tier measurement strategies...

53% of users don't return to Google AI mode after initial attempts, revealing the gap between AI search hype and actual user behavior. Garrett Sussman, Director of Marketing at iPullRank, brings enterprise-level insights from developing relevance engineering frameworks that help brands navigate AI-driven search transformation. The discussion covers iPullRank's five-pillar relevance engineering mod...

53% of users don't return to Google AI mode after initial attempts. Garrett Sussman, Director of Marketing at iPullRank, brings enterprise-level insights from analyzing clickstream data across AI search platforms and developing relevance engineering frameworks for Fortune 500 brands. The discussion covers iPullRank's three-tier measurement approach (input metrics, channel metrics, performance metr...

53% of users don't return to Google AI mode after initial attempts, revealing the gap between AI search hype and actual user behavior. Garrett Sussman, Director of Marketing at iPullRank, brings enterprise-level insights from analyzing clickstream data and developing relevance engineering frameworks for Fortune 500 clients. The discussion covers iPullRank's three-tier measurement approach (input m...

Marketing leaders struggle to prove AI attribution ROI while competitors gain early advantages. Rahul Jain, CEO and co-founder at Noble, explains how his company helps enterprises transition from traditional healthcare sales approaches to faster-moving marketing attribution strategies. The discussion covers proactive positioning strategies for AI attribution implementation and competitive timing f...

73% of marketing leaders lack clear AI attribution frameworks for GEO performance measurement. Rahul Jain from Noble demonstrates how enterprise teams can establish positioning advantages before attribution models mature, emphasizing the critical timing window for competitive differentiation. The discussion covers proactive market positioning strategies versus reactive attribution waiting, risk as...

73% of marketers still lack clear attribution for AI-driven brand mentions. Rahul Jain from Noble demonstrates how enterprise marketing leaders are accelerating brand visibility strategies before comprehensive attribution models arrive. The discussion covers proactive positioning frameworks for AI search results and risk-adjusted investment strategies that outpace competitors waiting for perfect m...

Most marketing leaders delay AI search optimization due to limited attribution visibility in current analytics. Rahul Jain from Noble demonstrates how forward-thinking brands are building AI search presence now, before comprehensive measurement tools become standard. The discussion covers proactive positioning strategies for AI-generated results and timing frameworks for competitive advantage in e...

Marketing leaders who delay AI attribution strategies risk falling behind competitors by 12+ months. Rahul Jain from Noble demonstrates how enterprise teams can establish search presence before attribution clarity emerges, drawing from his transition from highly-regulated healthcare marketing to faster-moving sectors. The discussion covers proactive positioning strategies that capture market share...

AI search attribution remains unclear for 87% of marketing teams despite rapid adoption. Rahul Jain from Noble demonstrates how brands can't afford to wait for perfect measurement, having helped enterprise clients establish AI search presence before attribution models mature. The discussion covers proactive positioning strategies for uncertain attribution environments and risk-based decision frame...

73% of enterprise SEO teams lack custom data analysis capabilities. Celeste Gonzalez, SEO Testing Director at RicketyRoo and founder of the LA SEO Meetup Group, demonstrates how building proprietary Chrome extensions can unlock competitive insights that traditional platforms miss. The discussion covers search experience optimization frameworks that leverage existing data assets and scrappy tool de...

Session recordings reveal user behavior patterns that rankings can't capture. Celeste Gonzalez from RicketyRoo demonstrates how enterprise SEOs can leverage existing behavioral data to optimize search experiences beyond traditional ranking metrics. The discussion covers building custom analytics tools to track user journey completion rates and implementing session recording analysis to identify co...

Most SEOs ignore session recordings despite having access. Celeste Gonzalez from RicketyRoo demonstrates how behavioral data reveals conversion gaps that traditional ranking metrics miss entirely. She outlines frameworks for analyzing user interaction patterns beyond page views and presents strategies for building custom tools that extract actionable insights from existing data sources. See Privac...

Session recordings reveal user behavior that rankings can't capture. Celeste Gonzalez from RicketyRoo demonstrates how enterprise SEOs can leverage existing analytics data to build custom tools that uncover actionable insights beyond traditional platform limitations. The conversation covers search experience optimization frameworks that connect user behavior data with conversion outcomes, plus str...

E-commerce teams waste resources tracking 300 million product variants when only top performers drive revenue. Katie Moro, Director of Managed Services at Productsup, has optimized 2.2 trillion products monthly for enterprise retailers navigating AI-driven commerce transformation. She reveals why brands must segment catalogs by KPIs rather than exposing entire inventories, demonstrates the readine...

AI agents are reshaping product discovery for 2.2 trillion monthly products. Katie Moro, Director of Managed Services at Productsup, brings 15 years of e-commerce optimization experience from Channel Intelligence to Google Merchant Center to scaling enterprise product data strategies. She reveals the critical readiness KPI framework for AI commerce platforms, explains why exposing entire catalogs...

AI platforms require strategic catalog segmentation to maximize performance outcomes. Katie Moro, Director of Managed Services at Productsup, shares her KPI-driven approach to product feed optimization that has proven effective across enterprise e-commerce implementations. She outlines a framework for aligning catalog segments with specific business objectives—whether prioritizing revenue-driving...

E-commerce brands waste millions exposing entire product catalogs to AI platforms. Katie Moro, Director of Managed Services at Productsup, manages 2.2 trillion products monthly and reveals how strategic catalog segmentation drives measurable AI commerce results. The discussion covers KPI-driven product prioritization frameworks, persona-based catalog segmentation strategies, and structured data op...

E-commerce brands waste billions on unfocused product feeds sent to AI platforms. Katie Moro, Director of Managed Services at Productsup, manages 2.2 trillion products monthly and previously served as a Google Shopping specialist, delivering measurable results for enterprise retailers navigating AI-driven commerce transformation. The discussion covers structured data readiness frameworks for agent...

Enterprise sites lose millions in revenue when LLM crawlers access proprietary data indiscriminately. Kaspar Szymanski, Senior Director at SearchBrothers and former Google Search Team member, shares proven strategies for protecting high-value content while maintaining search visibility. The discussion covers binary access control frameworks for enterprise data protection and strategic crawl manage...

Enterprise websites face critical decisions about LLM data access and proprietary content protection. Kaspar Szymanski, senior director at SearchBrothers and former Google Search Team member, shares strategic insights on balancing content accessibility with data security. The discussion covers binary access control frameworks for proprietary data, risk assessment methodologies for public versus pr...

Enterprise teams waste resources blocking AI crawlers from already-public content. Kaspar Szymanski, Senior Director at SearchBrothers and former Google Search Team member, clarifies the fundamental misconception around proprietary data protection. He outlines the binary decision framework for content accessibility and explains why truly sensitive data requires access-level controls rather than cr...