Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Very Bad Wizards

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Very Bad Wizards is a podcast featuring a philosopher (Tamler Sommers) and a psychologist (David Pizarro), who share a love for ethics, pop culture, and cognitive science, and who have a marked inability to distinguish sacred from profane. Each podcast includes discussions of moral philosophy, recent work on moral psychology and neuroscience, and the overlap between the two.

Author

Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Category

Society

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Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 238: I Am Not Ivan Ilyich...Am I? 07.06.2022

Ivan Ilyich is a man. All men are mortal. So Ivan Ilyich is mortal. Sure absolutely, that's true for Ivan Ilyich and for all men. But we're not Ivan Ilyich and we're not 'all men'- so what does this have to do with us? Right? David and Tamler confront their mortality as they discuss Leo Tolstoy's brilliant and chilling short story "The Death of Ivan Ilyich." Plus the 'Why I am leaving academia' es...

Episode 237: Glitches Ain't Shit 24.05.2022

David and Tamler explore the many variations of simulation theory, the view that our universe is just a computer generated model created by an advanced civilization that has reached "technological maturity." What does the growing popularity of simulation theories reveal about contemporary life? Are any of the arguments for simulation theory compelling or are they just post-hoc ways of justifying w...

Episode 236: Your Outie Is Skilled at Lovemaking (With Paul Bloom) 03.05.2022

We welcome Paul Bloom to talk about the first season of "Severance," the new mind-bending and mind-splitting TV series on Apple TV+. What happens when you separate your home life from your work life? Do you create a completely different person? Is it a form of self-slavery? How important is autobiographical memory to your identity? And what's the deal with the break room… and the goats? Plus, what...

Episode 235: Animated Objects 19.04.2022

Panpsychism didn't give us river spirits or mischievous sootballs, so this time we go straight to the source - a defense of animism, and in a top 10 analytic philosophy journal. Could a failed argument for the existence of God establish the existence of trees and mountains with "interiority" and "social characteristics"? Tamler wants to believe, but is the argument that'll push him over the edge? ...

Episode 234: Like A Dog (Kafka's "The Trial" Pt. 2) 05.04.2022

David and Tamler conclude their discussion of "The Trial," Franz Kafka's darkly comic vision of an opaque and impenetrable bureaucracy that comes for us all in the end. Plus we interrupt our previously scheduled opening segment because apparently something happened at the Oscars last week. Sponsored By: BetterHelp : You deserve to be happy. BetterHelp online counseling is there for you. Connect wi...

Episode 233: Keeping It Surreal (Kafka's "The Trial" Pt. 1) 22.03.2022

David and Tamler wander through the bewildering dream-like world of Franz Kafka's "The Trial." In part one of a two-part discussion we discuss the circumstances of its publication, the various interpretative approaches that can be taken to the novel, and all the ways that Kafka's prose gets under your skin, making you feel what's happening even if you don't fully understand it. Recorded in the dec...

Episode 232: Mind Over Matter 08.03.2022

It's the topic voted on by our beloved Patreon patrons, panpsychism! David and Tamler delve into the resurgent debate over whether consciousness is the fundamental stuff that makes up the universe. We hoped we might be entering Miyazaki land - river spirits, benevolent radishes, a universal mind. But is this just the same old philosophy of mind debate with different words? Are there any stakes to...

Episode 231: Ideal Critics (Hume's "Of the Standard of Taste") 22.02.2022

Many of us think that art is subjective, but at the same time it seems like some artistic judgments are better than others. Do you think Crash deserved to receive an award for Best Picture? Did you like Season 2 of Ted Lasso ? Well you're wrong. So how do we reconcile these two conflicting attitudes about art? David and Tamler turn to David Hume's classic essay Of the Standard of Taste (link in no...

Episode 230: Be Happy (Lars von Trier's "Melancholia") 08.02.2022

David and Tamler sink deeper and deeper into Melancholia, Lars von Trier's harrowing and stunningly beautiful depiction of depression, anxiety, and a wedding reception that just won't end. They bring Freud's "Mourning and Melancholia" into the conversation and confront the question: what if the depressed and anxious people are right? Plus Whoopi, M&Ms, baby brain waves, Rogan – we empty out the op...

Episode 229: Skin Deep? 25.01.2022

We think racism is wrong but what about "lookism" – a bias that favors attractive people over unattractive ones? If it's wrong to judge people by the color of their skin, what about judging people for something that is only skin deep? We talk about two pieces today, a forthcoming philosophy article by William D'Allesandro "Is it Bad to Prefer Attractive Partners" and the Ted Chiang story "Liking W...

Episode 228: Forever Jung 11.01.2022

David and Tamler confront their shadows and dive into Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious. What are the central differences between Jung and Freud? What did Jung mean by archetypes and what's his evidence for their centrality in the human psyche? How can we integrate elements of our unconscious and avoid projecting them onto the world? Can Jung's ideas tell us anything about culture w...

Episode 227: A Terrible Master (David Foster Wallace's "This Is Water"). 21.12.2021

David and Tamler dive into David Foster Wallace's celebrated and surprisingly earnest Kenyon College commencement speech "This is Water". How can we escape the prison and prism of our (literally) self-centered perspective? Can we choose to adjust our natural default settings, take a break from our running inner monologue, and pay attention to what's in front of us right now? Is DFW appealing to Bu...

Episode 226: Unraveling Time Traveling (with Barry Lam and Christina Hoff Sommers) 07.12.2021

First, it's the return of the annual drunken Thanksgiving segment! Tamler and based wicked stepmom Christina Hoff Sommers fight about JFK, systematic racism, corporations, and how to pronounce valium. (We find more common ground than usual though on Covid and Havana Syndrome.) Then podcast auteur Barry Lam joins David and Tamler to talk about David Lewis on time travel, the new season of Barry's e...

Episode 225: Forbidden Modules 16.11.2021

David and Tamler talk about the often rancorous debate among cognitive scientists and evolutionary psychologists over whether the mind is modular -- composed of discrete systems responsible for vision, reasoning, cheater detection, sexual jealousy, and so on. David and Tamler (mostly David) describe the history of the debate, then dive into a recent paper (Pietraszewski & Wertz, 2021) arguing that...

Episode 224: Hurts So Good (With Paul Bloom) 02.11.2021

VBW favorite Paul Bloom joins us to talk about the pleasures of suffering, flow states, Sisyphus, meaning, and dating questions. Check out his new book The Sweet Spot which comes out today! Plus what are NFTs and why does everyone hate them? Sponsored By: Chess.com : Join chess.com today--you can learn to play, take some lessons to improve, brush up on your game by having the computer analyze your...

Episode 223: The Hopeless Dream of Being (Bergman's "Persona") 19.10.2021

David and Tamler dive into Ingmar Bergman's 1966 masterpiece Persona , a film about two (?) women, Elisabet, a famous stage actress who has stopped speaking, and Alma the chatty young nurse assigned to care for her at an island cottage. What happens when the roles we play as parents, spouses, friends, and colleagues start to feel like dishonest performances, an endless series of desperate lies? Ca...

Episode 222: Choosing Sartre for All Mankind 05.10.2021

David and Tamler don black turtlenecks and light up a couple of Gauloises to talk about Jean Paul Sartre's classic essay "Existentialism is a Humanism." Why are choices so fundamental to our experience? What does Sartre mean when he says that "existence precedes essence"? Why does he try to shoehorn universalizability into a view that's clearly hostile to it? Plus, how much free time is good for y...

Episode 221: Granite Cocks vs Robot Overlords 21.09.2021

David and Tamler wind their way through the long-requested "Meditations on Moloch" by Scott Alexander, a comprehensive account of the coordination problems (personified by Allan Ginsberg's demon-entity Moloch) that lead to human misery and values tossed out the window. Does Alexander's rationalist conception of human nature ignore the work of VBW favorites like Joe Henrich and Robert Frank? Is he...

Episode 220: On Your Marx 07.09.2021

In honor of Labor Day, David and Tamler dive into two works by Karl Marx - "The Communist Manifesto" and "Estranged Labor." What is Marx's theory of historical change? Why does capitalism produce an alienated workforce? What role does philosophy play in maintaining the status quo? Plus, fraudulent data in a famous study about dishonesty and former guest Dan Ariely is under investigation. Sponsored...

Episode 219: Multiplied by Mirrors 17.08.2021

It's a Borges bonanza! David and Tamler dive into two stories: "Emma Zunz" and "Borges and I." The first seems like a straightforward daughter revenge story (Tamler's favorite genre), but Borges being Borges there are layers of doubt and fuzziness about what exactly is going on. "Borges and I" may be less than a page, but it has us questioning our identity, the relationship between private and pub...

Episode 218: ...But You Can't Hide (Michael Haneke's "Caché") 03.08.2021

David and Tamler go deep on Michael Haneke's unnerving psychological thriller Caché. An upper middle class French intellectual couple receives mysterious videotapes of the exterior of their house, forcing them to confront their past and present. Can we run from our history? Or will it always find a way to break through? And who's sending the tapes? Plus, VBW does conceptual analysis - what does it...

Episode 217: Dropping Paradigms (Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions") 20.07.2021

David and Tamler hit the books and cram for their beloved Patreon listener-selected episode – this time on Thomas Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions." David thinks Kuhn is a great sociologist of science but recoils at the relativistic tenor of the final chapters. Tamler loves anything that makes David recoil. Plus, should we give more weight to the advice of people on their deathbed?...

Episode 216: Oral Judgments 06.07.2021

We've promised you for years that we would do an episode on apologies and never got to it until today. So we both want to say from the bottom of our hearts: we're sorry. We recognize we've let so many of our listeners down, and we feel just awful if you were offended by the delay. We hope this episode will be just one small step towards regaining your trust. Plus, of all the evo-psych articles in...

Episode 215: Touch My Pink Monkey 22.06.2021

David and Tamler argue about the philosopher L.A. Paul's ideas on "transformative experiences" – big life decisions that will change you and your values so much that our normal decision-making models break down. Tamler is fully on board and hopeful for philosophy, but David sees Paul's view as a threat to his precious rationality. Plus, we tackle the greatest existential threat to human civilizati...

Episode 214: You Shouldn't Feel Bad (Except You Should) 08.06.2021

Tamler welcomes social psychologist David Pizarro of Cornell University to the podcast to talk about his recent article (along with Raj Anderson, Shaun Nichols, and Rachana Kamtekar) on "false-positive emotions." When agents commit accidental harms, we typically tell them they shouldn't feel too guilty, it's not their fault, it was out of their control, and so forth. At the same time, we don't wan...

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