Rob Graves
Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents
Welcome to The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents , your go-to podcast for insights, tips, and inspiration in the world of estate agency. Join us as we interview industry experts, successful estate agents, and thought leaders who share their experiences, strategies, and innovative ideas. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out, our episodes are packed with valuable content designed to help you elevate your skills and enhance your services. Tune in to discover practical advice and fresh perspectives that will empower you to become a top-performing estate agent a...
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Jul 9, 2026
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Why Estate Agents Don’t Need More Training… They Need Better Training 15.01.2026 56:20
Most training in estate agency exists to stop you going to prison. Very little of it helps you win instructions, progress sales, or actually understand the law you’re meant to be complying with. That’s why this conversation matters. In this episode, I’m joined by Charlotte Jeffrey-Campbell, founder of The Able Agent—and one of the most grounded, no-nonsense voices in estate agency trai...
Your CRM Is Costing You Instructions (And AI Is About to Expose It) 08.01.2026 45:41
Most estate agents think they have a CRM problem. What they really have is a data, discipline, and decision-making problem. In this episode, I’m joined by Mark Hinkins , Commercial Director at Rex , to tear into one of the most uncomfortable truths in estate agency: almost no one is using their CRM properly—and AI is about to make that painfully obvious. We talk about why most agents under-use pow...
200 Agents, One Postcode: Why Sellers Keep Choosing the Wrong Estate Agent 01.01.2026 43:23
This episode is a proper behind-the-scenes look at how sellers choose estate agents — and why so many get it wrong. I’m joined by Colby Short , co-founder and CEO of GetAgent , the UK’s leading estate agent comparison platform. Over the last 11 years, GetAgent has analysed millions of data points, worked with over 7,500 agents, and helped more than 1.2 million homeowners try to answer one deceptiv...
Why Your Best Team Member Might Not Be in Your Office The Real Truth About VAs in Estate Agency -Bronwyn Schmidt 26.12.2025 42:08
Most estate agents didn’t get into this business to drown in admin… yet somehow that’s exactly what happens. In this episode, I’m joined by Bronwyn Schmidt , Operations Director at VA Central , to unpack what actually happens when agents stop trying to do everything themselves. We talk honestly about: Why most agents leave outsourcing far too late The difference between cheap outsourcing and build...
Resilience, Reinvention & Ridiculously Smart Property Moves, with Aarti Patel 18.12.2025 37:25
Aarti Patel isn’t just impressive. She’s one of those rare people who walk into your world and remind you what’s actually possible. Her property journey didn’t begin with fanfare. It began with a disaster. The kind of disaster that sends most people off to lick their wounds and mutter “never again.” Aarti did the opposite. She treated it like tuition. Learned the lessons. Then used those les...
The Compliance Horror Story Every Estate Agent Needs to Hear 11.12.2025 39:28
Estate agents love the thrill of the chase. Listings, negotiations, deals — that’s the fun bit. Compliance? That’s the part that keeps everyone awake at night. In this episode, Amy Shields, former estate agent turned Smart Compliance powerhouse, pulls back the curtain on the side of agency most people avoid until it’s too late. From AML pitfalls to the fines agents don’t believe they’ll ever get,...
Stop Playing at It: Alex Pelosi-Buchanan on Building a Proper Agency 04.12.2025 50:36
Alex Pelosi-Buchanan is one of those leaders who doesn’t hide behind buzzwords or corporate gloss. He’s honest, sharp, commercially switched on and absolutely obsessed with doing agency properly — no shortcuts, no fluff, no ego. In this episode, Alex takes us behind the curtain of what it really takes to build momentum in today’s market. We dig into leadership, culture, standards, growth, ac...
The Broker Blueprint: Jack Durkin on Building Better, Not Bigger 27.11.2025 40:22
Jack Durkin didn’t just launch a self-employed brokerage… he built a model that actually works. In a world where every man and his dog is suddenly a “broker,” Jack and his team at The Avenue are quietly rewriting the rules of what a high-quality, high-fee, hyper-local agency can look like. In this conversation, Jack opens the bonnet and gets right into the engine of the modern brokerage movement —...
Marketing That Actually Works: Kirsty Franks on Cutting the Crap in Estate Agency 20.11.2025 43:12
Kirsty Franks doesn’t just “do marketing.” She dissects it. Rebuilds it. And then plugs it directly into the bloodstream of an estate agency so it actually drives revenue, not just noise. As Founder and CEO of Frank Marketing, she’s spent years helping estate agents and property professionals grow market share, sharpen their message, and turn half-baked ideas into campaigns that actually land. Str...
Creating a Life You Love – The Garrett Maroon Way 13.11.2025 53:43
This week I chat with Garrett Maroon — an agent, coach and all-round good guy from Virginia who built his business the hard way… then figured out how to do it the smart way. After burning out working 100-hour weeks, Garrett rebuilt his business around one simple principle: success isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing it better. He now generates all his leads through referrals and has created a...
Chris Webb: The Moment Everything Changed 06.11.2025 46:17
This week I chat with Chris Webb — founder of The Estate Agent Consultancy and one of the sharpest minds in our industry. Chris is known for driving growth for small and solo estate agencies. But this conversation goes beyond the polished professional image. Chris lets his guard down and shares the story behind the career; the experiences that shaped him, the mistakes that taught him, and th...
How to Build a Brokerage That Actually Works – with Yopa’s Tom Greenacre 30.10.2025 43:58
Tom Greenacre has done what many talk about but few pull off — built a thriving brokerage from scratch under the Yopa umbrella. From his early days at Countrywide to the chaos and colour of Purplebricks, Tom’s seen every version of estate agency. In this episode, we unpack how he’s created a business within a business — the highs, the mistakes, and the reality behind the glossy LinkedIn posts. We...
Charlie Lamdin: The Reluctant Know-It-All and His Fight to Fix Estate Agency 23.10.2025 39:35
Charlie Lamdin is one of the industry’s most outspoken outsiders — a man who’s never sold a house, yet has spent 25 years studying the people who do. Founder of BestAgent, self-taught “wannabe world-changer,” and serial survivor of business bruises, Charlie’s mission is bold: to tear down the barriers that keep agency unfair and rebuild it around trust, transparency, and process. In this episode,...
From Drummer to Deal Maker: Brian’s Journey, the Wolfpack, and What the US Can Teach the UK 16.10.2025 52:19
In this episode of The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents, Rob Graves sits down with Brian Quick, an eXp agent from the US and a key member of The Wolfpack — a 3,500-strong network of high-performing brokers. Brian’s journey from touring drummer to top-producing agent began after a major health scare that completely shifted his outlook on life and business. The conversation dives deep...
From TV Screens to Dream Homes – Behind the Scenes with “A Place in the Sun” Creators 09.10.2025 58:37
This week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents , I sit down with Jean-Pierre and his husband Manuel—the creative duo behind Channel 4’s hit property series A Place in the Sun . They share what it was really like to bring one of the UK’s most-loved property shows to life, lifting the curtain on the challenges, surprises, and stories from behind the camera. But their journey didn’t...
AI Won’t Replace Agents—But It Will Create Super Agents 02.10.2025 55:46
This week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents I sit down with Morgan Edmondson of Nesti, the London-based startup building one of the most advanced AI platforms for estate and letting agents. Morgan gives us a clear-eyed look at what AI can really do for estate agency today—and where it’s heading tomorrow. This isn’t about robots taking jobs. It’s about the smartest agents...
The Gary Vee of UK Estate Agency: David Adams on Landlords, Legacy & Lettings 25.09.2025 51:54
This week I sit down with David Adams — property expert, landlord coach, best-selling author, and the driving force behind Cavendish Sales & Lettings. David has transformed a family business into a modern, value-driven agency. He gets what many miss: property management is the beating heart of cash flow and long-term business value. In our conversation, we explore how he’s using multi-generati...
Acquisition, Attitude & Authenticity: The Naish Way with Matthew Hendry 18.09.2025 45:51
Sometimes the best conversations don’t come from the big personalities on the industry stage but from the agents quietly getting on with building brilliant businesses. In this episode I sit down with Matthew Hendry, owner of Naish Estate Agents in York , who acquired the business just two years ago and has already steered it through a rebrand, renovation, and a rebuild of his team. We cover:  ...
AI is changing estate agency faster than Rightmove ever did. 11.09.2025 43:01
In this episode I sit down with Apostolos Aktypis—the man building AI-powered client acquisition systems for estate agents, B2B, and service brands. His work sits right where AI, paid media, and revenue engineering collide, and his mission is simple: to move the bottom line with substance, not hype. When we recorded this conversation just eight weeks ago, the tools were impressive. Since then, the...
Beyond Cheap Labour: Outsourcing Myths and the Power of Onboarding. 04.09.2025 1:04:37
In this week’s episode I sit down with Deep Shah to challenge a big misconception: outsourcing isn’t about cutting costs—it’s about raising the quality of your team. Deep shares sharp insights on how recruitment and onboarding can make or break a business. Too often, we blame new starters when the real issue is a lack of process. Without the right systems and procedures, even the best people...
Dubai Real Estate Reality Check: Mitch’s Rolex Dream and Market Challenges 28.08.2025 32:57
In this episode of The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents , I reconnect with Mitch in Dubai to see how his real estate journey is unfolding — and whether he’s any closer to that elusive Rolex goal. Since our last conversation (one of the most popular episodes we’ve ever released), the Dubai property market has toughened, and wider global uncertainty has added to the challenges — inclu...
Beyond the Scripts: Richard Rawlings on His Story, Sales Mastery, and the Future of Agency 21.08.2025 45:33
This week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents , I sit down with Richard Rawlings — one of the most respected trainers and speakers in our industry. Richard is known for helping agents secure higher fees, close more instructions, and create real distinction in their markets. He’s worked with everyone from independents to global brands, sharing practical persuasion techniques that...
This Week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents: Matthew Gardiner Legge 14.08.2025 46:49
I first met Matthew back in 2008 and we recently reconnected at the eXp conference, where his energy and enthusiasm were as strong as ever. In this episode, Matthew shares his journey through agency, his unfiltered thoughts on the industry, and why he’s so passionate about eXp. He doesn’t shy away from the “cult” label in fact, he embraces it and explains what the model has done for agents not jus...
Adam Mackay – Founder of Mackay Property & Co-Founder of The Real Agency 07.08.2025 43:22
This week, I’m joined by Adam Mackay, one of the first agents in the UK to embrace the eXp brokerage model. From his family roots in Sawbridgeworth to launching Mackay Property and now building The Real Agency alongside Olympic legends Roger Black and Steve Backley, Adam’s story is packed with insight, bold decisions, and a clear belief in doing things differently. In this episode: Why Adam...
AI, Innovation & the Future of Estate Agency – with Adam Ali 31.07.2025 1:03:09
This week I’m joined by Adam Ali, Managing Director at NurtureCloud and a commercial leader with deep experience scaling SaaS businesses across the UK, Australia, UAE, and beyond. We get into a wide-ranging and genuinely eye-opening conversation about: The role AI will play in reshaping estate agency What UK agents can learn from other global markets How to turn emerging tech...
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