Unsupervised Leadership

Unsupervised Leadership: A podcast for fun, fab, & fierce females

Join us for your weekly inspiration on leadership, friendship and relationships...get ready for some REAL TALK episodes featuring leaders across the country who inspire us, elevate us and celebrate us...our goal is to create a safe space to share the REAL things happening in education. Follow us on Twitter at @F4Leaders ...What does F4Leaders mean? Fun, Fab & Fierce Females!

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Unsupervised Leadership

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Education

Latest episode

Jul 3, 2026

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Episodes

Shakti Girls: Let's Talk to Shetal Shah 20.05.2023

Join us to talk to Shetal Shah, author of Shakti Girls...teacher, mom, and author. You will love it!

ROX (Ruling Our Experiences) Founder: Dr. Lisa Hinkleman 13.05.2023

Dr. Lisa Hinkelman is a nationally recognized researcher, speaker and author who is a foremost authority on educating and empowering girls and creating environments that foster girls’ confidence, self-esteem and successful decision-making.  She has spent more than fifteen years researching girls and educating adults both as a professor at The Ohio State University and as the Founder and CEO of the...

ESPN: Lauren Sisler 06.05.2023

Let's talk ESPN with one of the BEST sideline reporters, Lauren Sisler! Let's discuss what it's like to be on the sidelines of college football and we'll talk all about women in leadership with one of the very best!

Celebrate YOU until the world catches up: Dr. Jennifer Norrell 29.04.2023

We know we say this is the best episode yet, just like the Bachelor series is always the most dramatic yet, but we're serious! If you are looking for a job, have ever not gotten the job, need a pick me up...this episode is for you! Dr. Jennifer Norrell delivers a great message for all of us about humility, grace and kindness.

Let's Talk Autism and Parenting 15.04.2023

Kate Swenson is the creator of the blog and Facebook page Finding Cooper's Voice. She speaks regularly about autism, parenting and motherhood, and is a contributor to Today Parents, the Today show, Her View from Home and the Love What Matters blog. Courtney is fangirling BIG TIME and Kate has already bought Forever Boy for her staff. Make this book go viral!

Never Take It Personally: Dr. Kimako Patterson 08.04.2023

Looking to hear from a direct, bold, and passionate leader? Look no further! We've got Dr. Kimako Patterson, Superintendent, joining us on this podcast! She talks about relationships, directness, women leaders, and healthy debates...don't miss it!

Tony Sanders: Illinois State Superintendent's FIRST PODCAST 01.04.2023

We've got him! He just took the position a month ago, and his first podcast interview is with US! If you're looking for another podcast in IL, check out We love Illinois Schools at https.//isbe.net/podcast ...We talk to Dr. Sanders about doodling, about his goals, and all about how he plans on making the State Superintendent position focused on students!

Accountability and Communication 25.03.2023

We want to discuss things that we think should be improved in organizations...accountability and communication! We're on a rant, although short, but we think everyone should listen!

Allyson Apsey: Clickbait At Its Finest 18.03.2023

We are interviewing THE Allyson Apsey! But before we do, we go on a rant about instructional leaders and why we brought on Allyson. She has a blog and posted about how principals don't need to be instructional leaders which caused quite a controversy for some! Allyson joins us to talk about instruction, the blog, and she might even start up her podcast again! YAY!

We Think We Are Barbara Walters: Kate and Courtney Unplugged 04.03.2023

We love Barbara Walters and decided to put our interviewing skills to the test- on each other!  This is an unplugged episode where we grill each other on life, on work and on personal and professional relationships. We dive deep into some of our regrets, our successes, what people perceive of us and what we (really) think of it, and it goes from there...

Jenna and Barb: The Friends You Didn't Know You Needed 25.02.2023

We are on some major tangents about giving people feedback, evaluations, wearing jeans at work...oh, and Kate shares what she REALLY wanted to be at age 19....and the list goes on!  And then, we interview two superintendents- one who is nearing the end of her career and the other is just beginning- and they both love prosecco!  Listen to this episode for the laughs you need...

LaVonna Roth: Ignite Your Shine! 18.02.2023

We've got LaVonna Roth, and she's telling us tips and tricks with women in leadership, parenting, speaking...ALL of it!  We're on several rants again in our intro, but you won't want to miss LaVonna's inspiring message!

Dr. Martie: We're Talking Mental Health, Parenting, and Early Intervention 11.02.2023

We've been wanting to have a Licensed Clinical Psychologist join us, and now we have her!  Join us while we interview Dr. Martie Lukanich, a Licensed Clinical Psychologist with over 35 years of experience in the field of mental health and parent education and a wife and mother of 6 sons. Dr. Martie offers practical easy to understand (humorous) wisdom, insight and encouragement. We're talking...

PJ Caposey UNPLUGGED 04.02.2023

This is the episode you've been waiting for, friends!  Dr. PJ Caposey comes on the pod to talk about his work, his life, his Peloton, and his views on women in leadership.  PJ is the Illinois Superintendent of the Year right now, and he's a finalist for the National Superintendent of the Year.  You won't want to miss this episode!

Amy Dixon and Mandy Ellis: The Real Talk You're Waiting For 28.01.2023

Join us for two superstar leaders, Amy Dixon and Mandy Ellis, who share their challenges, successes, struggles, advice and REAL talk!  We're talking about mental health, social media, and everything you can imagine.  Get ready for some great tips about leadership from these two F4Leaders!

Season 3 in 2023: Colonel Margaret McGreal from the IL State Police 21.01.2023

Here we go! We have the FIRST female Colonel in the Patrol Division of the IL State Police who oversees all of the patrol officers across the state.  Join us to hear about her journey, her struggles, her successes and leave feeling energized!  Oh, and we hear all about Courtney and Kate's adventures during the break...if you don't have a seat at the table, you can always sit with US!

Chris Singleton: Unsupervised! 19.11.2022

Many people have heard Chris Singleton, but this is an interview FILLED with great information and inspiration!  Plus, Kate and Courtney are on a tangent again...but they are thankful!  Tune in to this last episode until we return with Season 3 in 2023!

Elle Joins Unsupervised Leadership...and Yes, We Love Tangents 12.11.2022

Ok, listeners!  We are back with a drop this week with the two of us and Elle...and then, we're on a rant about education and what we need, what we want, and we have another Would You Rather portion...enjoy!

The Men Who Love Unsupervised Leadership 05.11.2022

Yes, men listen to this podcast, too, and are always welcome at our table!  Men are critical to the success of women in leadership, and we have 5 great male leaders joining us who have supported us from the very beginning of this work!  Join us for a fun pod filled with energy, laughs, and some great insights about women in leadership from some of our favorite men in leadership!

Special Drop: New Women in Leadership Cohort in IL 03.11.2022

Special drop today!  Join us to hear from Dr. Crystal Johnson-Maden AND Dr. Carrie Hruby, who are coordinating the first ever Women in Leadership cohort in Illinois.  They will share their insights into this work, along with sharing some REAL TALK (which we're all about) about Women in Leadership...Join us for a fun mid-week episode!

Instructional Coaches: Why We Need Them and What They Do 29.10.2022

If you're an instructional coach, or if you've ever thought about becoming one, or if you work with one, OR...if you have been thinking if administration is your next step...you'll want to listen to this episode with Colleen McNaughton, Instructional Coach...who is going back to school for administration.  You always have a seat at our table!

Dr. Jill Siler: Educator, Author and Inspirer! 22.10.2022

Join us in celebrating women across the country as we interview Dr. Jill Siler, former superintendent, current Deputy Executive Director for Professional Learning for the Texas Association of School Administrators (TASA)...get ready for some real talk and inspiration we all need as leaders!

Dr. Sue Homes and Dr. Lori Franke-Hopkins: Let's Be Positive! 15.10.2022

Waiting for some real talk AND positivity?  Look no further!  Sue and Lori shower us with some real talk about life and work, while they boost our confidence as leaders and remind us how important this work really is...we're guessing this episode will leave listeners with more "quotable moments" than they could have imagined!

Damon West: Be A Coffee Bean...and SO MUCH MORE 01.10.2022

Immediately following the keynote at IASA's annual conference, we have Damon West with us talking all about his life, his passion, his work, his wife, his mother, his next steps...it's real, unplugged, and worth every minute!  

Interview with Dr. Donna Leak and Dr. Sonya Whitaker 17.09.2022

This is the REAL TALK session and what's REALLY going on!  Drs. Leak and Whitaker join us to talk about the struggles, successes and experiences that women face every day.  You won't want to miss this one!

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