Partnership Leaders
Unlearn with Asher & Kelly
Unlearn with Asher Mathew & Kelly Sarabyn breaks down the news, trends, and CEO priorities shaping the technology ecosystem. From AI and platforms to partners, capital, talent, and regulation, we connect headlines to what leaders need to rethink — and execute — now.
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Jul 11, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 24 | From Startups to Scaleups: Insights from a partnership pioneer 07.05.2024 1:02:40
On this episode of the Unlearn Podcast, hosts Kelly and Asher are joined by Bob Rosin, a seasoned professional with a diverse career spanning the B2B industry, startups, and leadership roles at companies like Sony, LinkedIn, and Stripe. Rosin shares insights into strategic partnerships, emphasizing the importance of understanding partners' goals and creating mutual value. He highlights LinkedI...
Ep 23 | Beyond Channels: A Holistic Approach to Partnering Across the Value Chain 19.03.2024 1:00:44
On this episode of the Unlearn Podcast, hosts Kelly and Asher chat with Greg Sarafin about his extensive career journey at IBM and EY. Greg highlights the significance of grasping a company's business model, and distinguishing between scarcity and abundance mindsets. He emphasizes the success potential of companies embracing abundance by partnering to deliver client outcomes effectively. The conve...
Ep 22 | The Future of Partnerships: A Conversation with Microsoft's Chief Partner Officer 15.03.2024 53:35
On this episode of the Unlearn Podcast, we dive into the world of partnerships with Nicole Dezen, the Chief Partner Officer at Microsoft. In this insightful conversation, hosts Asher and Kelly sit down with Nicole to explore her extensive career in partnerships, the intricate partner organization structure at Microsoft, and her invaluable perspectives on crucial topics shaping the future of the pa...
Ep 21 | Driving Transformation Together: The Evolving Role of Partnerships with Hong Choing 28.02.2024 54:06
On this podcast episode of the Unlearn Podcast, we are joined by Hong Choing from Oracle, who has over 25 years of experience leading global partnerships. Listen in, as he shares how strategic collaborations currently supercharge innovation, accelerate time to market, and help companies leapfrog competitors. He dives into the critical success factors and challenges in managing partnerships at mass...
Ep 20 | Mastering Mega Deals: Insights from a Decade of B2B Dealmaking with Christopher Engman 21.02.2024 51:21
On this episode of the Unlearn podcast, Listen in to Asher and Kelly talk to Christopher Engman, a veteran in the mega deals space. He discusses the differences between selling to large enterprises versus small businesses and how marketing plays a bigger role in mega deals due to the complexity of decisions. He emphasizes the unique approach needed for mega deals, highlighting the impact of comp...
Ep 19 | Data-Driven Decisions with Peter Caputa 21.02.2024 58:56
On this episode of the Unlearn podcast, listen in to Peter Caputa, where he delves into his role at Databox, an analytics platform with a unique Benchmark feature. Discover how Databox helps companies harness data for decision-making, and their partner program for accessible data-driven insights. The conversation also explores community building, product launch challenges, and Caputa's journey...
Ep 18 | Marketing Strategies in the Digital Landscape with Doug Landis 19.01.2024 54:19
On this podcast episode of the Unlearn Podcast, listen in to Doug Landis as he delves into marketing strategies in the digital age, discussing challenges and innovations with Asher Mathew and Kelly Sarabyn. They touch on startup layoffs and acquisitions in the venture capital industry, shedding light on the experiences of B2B SaaS investment firms and the evolving landscape of founder mental healt...
Ep 17 | Unlearning Marketing - Crafting Engagement in a Changing Landscape with Kristen Jacobson 18.10.2023 51:50
On this episode of the Unlearn podcast, Join hosts Kelly and Asher as they talk to Kristen Jacobson, a growth marketer and head of digital operations at UST. Kristen unfolds her unconventional journey into marketing and how her entrepreneurial background has shaped her unique approach to growth marketing. Their discussion spans a spectrum of intriguing topics, from the influence of pop culture on...
Ep 16 | Supercharging Business Technology: Startup Disruption and Innovation with David Linthicum 09.10.2023 48:29
Join hosts Kelly Sarabyn and Asher Matthew in the latest episode of the Unlearn Podcast, featuring the insightful David Linthicum, Chief Cloud Strategy Officer at Deloitte. Together, they embark on a journey to unlock the secrets of supercharging technology in the business world. They fearlessly confront questions about whether plucky startups can take on industry giants and why innovation can som...
Ep 15 | Charting New Waters: Redefining Leadership in Modern Marketing with Amanda Malko 06.09.2023 54:26
Join hosts Kelly Sarabyn & Asher Matthew on the Unlearn Podcast as they delve into a lively chat with Go-to-Market expert Amanda Malko. Discover Amanda's journey to guilt-free time off and her ingenious use of the regret minimization framework. Unearth the evolution of marketing in the digital age, and how Amanda envisions a strategic upheaval, with CEOs steering the ship. Tune in for insi...
Ep 14 | Unraveling Partnership Prowess with Nate Bray 02.08.2023 49:40
On this episode of the Unlearn podcast, join hosts Kelly and Asher as they sit down with Nate, a dynamic partnerships leader, to unravel his fascinating journey from business process outsourcing to the world of financial services and banking partnerships. Discover how Fintech partnerships evolved amidst regulatory challenges and data sensitivity, and learn about his groundbreaking integration fram...
Ep 13 |Startup Secrets Unveiled: Exploring Fundraising with Rand Fishkin 26.07.2023 58:28
On this episode of the Unlearn podcast, Join hosts Kelly and Asher as they dive deep into the fascinating world of startups and fundraising with none other than Rand Fishkin, Founder of the revolutionary SparkToro. Listen in to Rand as he shares the secrets of the startup ecosystem, unraveling the mysteries surrounding fundraising and addressing some of the structural challenges within the current...
Ep 12 | Shaping the Future of GTM Leadership with Bruce Cleveland 13.07.2023 1:02:18
On this episode of the Unlearn podcast, listen in to Bruce Cleveland, a renowned tech industry executive of Oracle, Marketo, and Siebel Systems, as he delves into the ethical implications of AI for HR and why he prefers a hard charging, in-office culture. He also shares his view on future-proof GTM leadership and expounds upon the strategic power of partnership models.
Ep 11 | Exploring the potential of modern marketplaces with Peter Evans 28.06.2023 44:56
Peter Evans, Chief Strategy Officer at McFadyen Digital, shares how marketplaces are disrupting traditional businesses. Peter has over 20 years of experience leading teams in assessing, framing, and implementing high-priority marketplaces that support business planning. He specializes in helping companies see around corners, anticipate key market trends, and craft platform and marketplace strategi...
Ep 10 | Creating and Scaling Impactful content with Jeff Barr 07.06.2023 51:52
On this episode of The Unlearn Podcast, listen in to Jeff Barr, Vice President and Chief Evangelist for Amazon Web Services (AWS), where he has been working for over 20 years. He is known for his influential blog, the AWS News Blog, which targets builders, developers, architects, CTOs, and students. Over time, Jeff has built a team of bloggers and implemented a streamlined content creation process...
Ep 09 | AI-Powered Marketing: Unleashing the Value of Proprietary Data with David Meerman Scott 24.05.2023 40:48
On this episode of The Unlearn Podcast, listen in to David Meerman Scott of Stage 2 Capital share his thoughts on AI and its impact on marketing in the coming years. David is an acclaimed author with 12 published books that have sold over a million copies in 30 languages. He currently serves as an independent advisor and investor in emerging companies that are transforming their industries by deli...
Ep 08 | The Evolution of Partnership Model and How to Leverage it with Ross Brown 10.05.2023 1:06:36
On this week’s episode of the Unlearn Podcast, we talk to Ross Brown of Oracle about the evolution of the Partnership model and leveraging this model to generate revenue. Ross is a well-traveled business professional with a diverse background that spans across different industries. He began his career as a software developer but eventually realized that it wasn't his passion. He then went on t...
Ep 07 | Creating Value Through Platforms With Geoffrey Parker 18.04.2023 55:30
Get ready for a riveting episode of The Unlearn Podcast! Join us as we delve into the brilliant mind of Geoffrey Parker as he shares his insights on Creating Value Through Platforms and how this applies to B2B tech, scalable building and avoiding technical debt on the journey from product to platform.
Ep 06 | Empathy, AI, and Personalization to Thrive in Sales and Marketing with Kate Bradley Chernis 30.03.2023 56:51
Join Asher & Kelly on The Unlearn Podcast this week with special guest Kate Bradley Chernis as they discuss Empathy, AI, and Personalization to Thrive in Sales and Marketing. Tune in to this free flowing conversation that covers how AI can help you become the best version of yourself by learning from your best practices and then defaulting to that.
Ep 05 | Building and Nurturing Communities with James Carbary 15.03.2023 52:56
Join Asher & Kelly on The Unlearn Podcast this week with special guest James Carbary as they discuss building and nurturing communities.
Ep 04 | The Changing Realities of B2B Enterprise Sales with Jamal Reimer 01.03.2023 41:51
Listen in to Jamal share insights into the changing realities of B2B Enterprise selling, training SDR’s and having a slight dose of skepticism when running a deal.
Ep 03 | The Revenue R&D Framework with Chris Walker 13.02.2023 59:39
Chris Walker, the Founder and CEO of Refine Labs shares his Revenue R&D framework. He also talks about demand creation and capture strategies and the flaws in the current mindset toward the revenue function.
Ep 02 | Building Valuable Companies and Communities with Kindness with Sam Jacobs 13.02.2023 55:43
Listen in to Sam Jacobs of Pavilion share his thoughts on building valuable companies and communities with kindness in a dog eat dog world. In a free flowing conversation with Asher and Kelly, he also discusses his latest book - “Kind folks finish first” and shares interesting anecdotes from his career over the years.
Ep 01 | Insights on Partner Ecosystem and Change Management with Avanish Sahai 13.02.2023 30:30
Listen in to Avanish share insights into the partner ecosystem and his thoughts around undertaking change management.
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