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Under the Scales

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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish’s quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders…and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish! Presented by Osiris Media.

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Latest episode

Mar 25, 2026

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Episodes

S4E41: 12/6/97 — Ryan Stasik 06.12.2022

Today we’re thrilled to be talking about 12/6/97 with Ryan Stasik of Umphrey’s McGee.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermi...

S4E40: 12/5/97 — RJ Bee 05.12.2022

The guest today for the 12/5/97 show from Cleveland is our very own RJ Bee.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermine is brou...

S4E39: 12/3/97 - Brad Serling 03.12.2022

Our guest today is Nugs.net founder and CEO Brad Serling. Brad chats with Tom and Benjy about seeing Phish in the early 90s as a Grateful Dead fan, his voyage from taper to a career in live music, and of course the amazing show on 12/3/97 at The Spectrum in Philly.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks...

S4E38: 12/2/97 — Marc Brownstein 02.12.2022

Today we have a conversation with Marc Brownstein of The Disco Biscuits, who talks about the Philadelphia show on 12/2/97, and a whole lot more about his band, Phish, and the 90s.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planni...

Smartwool Presents—Phish Comfort Songs Pt. 2 01.12.2022

In this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ share another one of their favorite Phish comfort songs. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Smartwool Presents—Phish Comfort Songs Pt. 1 30.11.2022

In this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ share one of their favorite Phish comfort songs. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

S4E37: 11/30/97 — Carla Ngo 30.11.2022

We wrap up the Worcester run by focusing on the last night, 11/30/97, with guest Carla Ngo.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  U...

Smartwool Presents—We Need Wool! 29.11.2022

In this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ talk about Phish shows when they were most in need of wool. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

S4E36: 11/29/97 — Jeremy D. Goodwin 29.11.2022

We are on to the weird and wild second night of Worcester, 11/29/97, with our guest Jeremy D. Goodwin.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and Cash...

Smartwool Presents - Great Outdoor Venues 28.11.2022

This bonus episode features a discussion about the best outdoor venues to see Phish play. Tom, RJ, and Benjy debate their personal favorites and the merit of music in parking lots. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaph...

S4E35: 11/28/97 — David Goldstein 28.11.2022

We have David Goldstein as our guest to talk about the first night of Worcester, 11/28/97.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Un...

S4E34: 11/26/97 — Scott Marks 26.11.2022

We have Scott Marks back again to talk with us about his first show, 11/26/97.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermine is b...

S4E33: 11/23/97 — Brian Brinkman 23.11.2022

Never miss a Sunday show, especially during the Fall ‘97 tour. Today we talk with Brian Brinkman about 11/23/97.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House...

S4E32: 11/22/97 — Scott Bernstein 22.11.2022

Today we’re joined by Scott Bernstein of JamBase to talk about 11/22/97 from Hampton.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermi...

Bonus! 11/19/97 with Joel Cummins 21.11.2022

In a special bonus episode, Joel Cummins of Umphrey's McGee talks with Benjy about his experience at the Phish show on 11/19/97 and how it influenced his decision to become a professional musician.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of you...

S4E31: 11/21/97 — Craig Hillwig 21.11.2022

It’s on to Phish’s first two-night stand at the mothership. We talk with guest Craig Hillwig about 11/21/97 in Hampton.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passio...

S4E30: 11/19/97 — Andy Kahn 19.11.2022

We’re in Champaign for 11/19/97, with Andy Kahn of JamBase.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermine is brought to you by Os...

S4E29: 11/17/97 — Trey Anastasio 17.11.2022

For one of the best shows of Fall ‘97, we could only have one person revisit it with us. Trey joins us to talk about 11/17/97, memories of the tour, and what led to this different musical style.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your f...

S4E28: 11/16/97 — Scott Galbraith 16.11.2022

It’s the first night of Denver, 11/16/97, and we’re joined by guest Scott Galbraith.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermin...

S4E27: 11/14/97 — Dom Deluca 14.11.2022

We’re on to Salt Lake City for the second show of the tour, 11/14/97, joined by guest Dom Deluca.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTra...

S4E26: 11/13/97 — Drew Hitz + Charlie Dirksen 13.11.2022

We’ve finally arrived in Las Vegas for the kickoff of Fall ‘97. Drew Hitz and Charlie Dirsken join us to recap the tour opener, 11/13/97.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at...

S4E25: 8/16/97 + 8/17/97 — Jim Pollock 11.11.2022

Today we’re joined by Jim Pollock to talk about The Great Went. We dive into 8/16/97 and 8/17/97 and talk about Jim’s work with the band.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at...

S4E24: 8/10/97 — Rob Mitchum 11.11.2022

We’re back, EXACTLY 15 minutes since our last episode. Rob Mitchum joins us to talk about 8/10/97 at Deer Creek. Here’s Rob’s 25th anniversary blog post on the show. Here’s Marc Allan’s review of this show, and Trey reading it in Bittersweet Motel. Lastly, here’s Marc Allan’s interview with Trey from 1993. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Po...

S4E23: 7/1/97 +7/2/97 — Scott Marks 09.11.2022

We’re on the back of the worm! We’re with Scott Marks to discuss the 7/1/97 and 7/2/97 shows from Amsterdam.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, an...

S4E22: 3/1/97 — Brad Sands 07.11.2022

Former Phish Road Manager Brad Sands joins us once again to talk about the 3/1/97 show, the basis for the album Slip, Stitch And Pass. Tom and Brad share Europe tour stories and talk about this era of the band’s music. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can...

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