Under the Scales

It’s on to Phish’s first two-night stand at the mothership. We talk with guest Craig Hillwig about 11/21/97 in Hampton.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passio...

We’re in Champaign for 11/19/97, with Andy Kahn of JamBase.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermine is brought to you by Os...

For one of the best shows of Fall ‘97, we could only have one person revisit it with us. Trey joins us to talk about 11/17/97, memories of the tour, and what led to this different musical style.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your f...

It’s the first night of Denver, 11/16/97, and we’re joined by guest Scott Galbraith.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade.  Undermin...

We’re on to Salt Lake City for the second show of the tour, 11/14/97, joined by guest Dom Deluca.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTra...

We’ve finally arrived in Las Vegas for the kickoff of Fall ‘97. Drew Hitz and Charlie Dirsken join us to recap the tour opener, 11/13/97.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at...

Today we’re joined by Jim Pollock to talk about The Great Went. We dive into 8/16/97 and 8/17/97 and talk about Jim’s work with the band.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at...

We’re back, EXACTLY 15 minutes since our last episode. Rob Mitchum joins us to talk about 8/10/97 at Deer Creek. Here’s Rob’s 25th anniversary blog post on the show. Here’s Marc Allan’s review of this show, and Trey reading it in Bittersweet Motel. Lastly, here’s Marc Allan’s interview with Trey from 1993. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Po...

We’re on the back of the worm! We’re with Scott Marks to discuss the 7/1/97 and 7/2/97 shows from Amsterdam.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, an...

Former Phish Road Manager Brad Sands joins us once again to talk about the 3/1/97 show, the basis for the album Slip, Stitch And Pass. Tom and Brad share Europe tour stories and talk about this era of the band’s music. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can...

We have arrived in 1997, and we’re hitting the Paradiso in Amsterdam to talk about 2/17/97, a night marked mostly by a huge debut, and the debut of a new musical direction. We discuss this all with Undermine co-Executive Producer Brian Brinkman.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at G...

Viva Las Vegas! Today we’re talking about the rare show where the encore is the most talked about segment of the show. That’s 12/6/96, under the bright lights, with journalist and author of The Phish Book, Richard Gehr.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they ca...

How do I work this? Where is that large automobile? Maybe this is my beautiful house…We are celebrating 10/31/96 and the masterful cover set of Remain In Light, with guest Gerald Gottesman.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financ...

Today we step into the creation of The Clifford Ball, with one of the people responsible for bringing it to life, Lars Fisk.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media....

On today’s episode, Drew Hitz joins us in the Gamehendge Time Laboratory, to revisit what many people think is the greatest Phish show of all time—12/31/95. We’re grateful to Drew for joining us for this three-set show that is so revered.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Fu...

We’re continuing our drive through 1995 with a stop in Binghamton, on a snowy night in December. David Steinberg (aka zzyzx) joins us to discuss 12/14/95, a show that at least one of our hosts describes as “nearly perfect.“ Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they...

Today we’re visiting the land of chocolate, with our very own co-host, Benjy Eisen. It’s 12/1/95— philosophy, science, religion, and of course, chocolate.  Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is br...

Crab in my shoe mouth. We’re in Orlando, Florida, it’s November 1995. Ari Fink helps us dive into the adventurous 11/14/95 show.   Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Me...

Step into the Fleezer! We’re visiting the wild and strange and confounding music of Summer ‘95, focusing on 6/22/95 with longtime taper and fan Lenny Stubbe.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy Eisen. Pr...

We’re joined by Undermine and Osiris team member Jonathan Hart to discuss THE Providence Bowie, from 12/29/94. In addition to breaking down this legendary jam, we look at Phish at the end of 1994 and where this show falls in that trajectory.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive...

For this episode, we find ourselves at the first Phish musical costume Halloween, of course that’s 10/31/94. Our guest Aaron Stein joins us to discuss that wild night in Glens Falls, how it stacks up with other Halloweens, and more.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producer...

Today we go to Columbus for the amazing 6/22/94 show, with a person who not only was there, but who describes it as one of the two most important days of his life (aside from his birth). Scott Gray enlightens us on this life-changing experience, and some insight into why Trey was talking about tall people during Icculus.  We also get into the merits of jam length, the top 5 shows of all time, and...

The birth of the “Tweezerfest,” we dive into 5/7/94 with Relix editor-in-chief, author, and friend Dean Budnick.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy Eisen. Produced and edited by Brian Brinkman and Eric...

Happy New Year! It’s 12/31/93, and we’re gathered inside the aquarium for the celebration with our co-Executive Producer and friend Benjy Eisen, who is our special guest.  Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Be...

Today we are looking at a pivotal show in Phish's history, 8/13/93 from the Murat Theater in Indianapolis. This show features the legendary version of "Bathtub Gin" which is seen as a turning point in the band's ability to jam outside of the structure of their compositions. Charlie Dirksen and Brian Feller, two longtime fans and board members of The Mockingbird Foundation, join us to talk about th...