Jon Evans
Uncensored CMO
The Uncensored CMO was created to explore the good, the bad and quite frankly downright ugly truth about marketing theory & practice.
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Episodes
Why AI will be a creative game changer - Simon Morris, Adobe 07.07.2025 31:58
Simon Morris is Adobe’s VP of International Marketing, joins us to share how Adobe is empowering creativity at scale. We discuss the impact of AI on marketing, why creativity will always need human skills, and how Adobe partners with brands like Real Madrid to build iconic campaigns. Simon also shares what makes a great marketing leader today, how to launch products successfully, and what’s next f...
How to build a brand on TikTok - Sofia Hernandez 02.07.2025 33:59
In collaboration with TikTok, System1 have launched a new research paper called " The Long and the Short Form of It ", explaining how brands can navigate and excel in this of this new world of short form content. In this episode I catch up with TikTok's Head of Business Marketing and Partnerships to discuss the research and help brands succeed on the platform. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:05 - Sofi...
From CMO to CEO - advice from The Marketing Academy founder Sherilyn Shackell 25.06.2025 59:52
After 20 unhappy years as a headhunter, it took a near death experience for Sherilyn Shackell to launch The Marketing Academy, a non-profit organisation developing leadership talent in marketing. Launched in 2010, The Marketing Academy now helps marketers become CMOs and CMOs become CEOs. This episode, we focus on exactly how CMOs can get a seat at the table in the boardroom and all the traits the...
Live episode: Prof G vs Kory Marchisotto vs Rory Sutherland, a debate on brand, risk & the future of the CMO 23.06.2025 39:42
In a bonus live episode from Cannes, Professor Scott Galloway joins renowned CMO Kory Marchisotto (e.l.f. Beauty) and advertising legend Rory Sutherland to discuss three big topics: Is brand dead? Are we too risk-averse? And what is the future of the CMO? Timestamps 00:00 - Start 00:26 - Is the era of brand dead? 13:54 - Do we need to make better advertising? 20:11 - How CMOs can approach risk 31:...
Startup masterclass - how Seedlip went from idea to Diageo exit in 3.5 years - Ben Branson 18.06.2025 1:02:43
Ben Branson is the founder of Seedlip, a non-alcoholic spirit brand he started in 2015, and sold 3 years later to Diageo. Jon speaks to Ben about the origins of the brand, how the grew so fast, what makes Ben such an impressive marketer (despite him not liking marketing) and how a brand goes from 0 to exit in such a short space of time. We also talk about Ben's new brands and his Hidden 20% charit...
Brand isn't dead, the 95:5 rule & why AI is B2B's most powerful painkiller - Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg 11.06.2025 1:03:18
The B2B boys Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg return to the podcast for a third time, this time wearing their new distinctive assets. They go hard on Professor Scott Galloway, disagreeing with his "brand is dead" statement, suggesting that not only is brand not dead, it's alive, thriving and you need it for your brand to survive. They also give us an update on their synthetic research company, Evid...
Airbnb on their big new innovation, in-housing creativity and brand led communication - Hiroki Asai 04.06.2025 37:14
I speak to Airbnb's CMO, Hiroki Asai, fresh off their 2025 Summer Release, where they announced their brand new "Services" and "Experiences" addition to the platform. This now positions Airbnb as the perfect alternative to a hotel when travelling. Hiroki touches on how they have launched this massive new innovation, why they do all their creative work in-house and rounds off with some poignant adv...
The future of X: winning back advertisers, breaking the news & building the world’s most powerful AI 28.05.2025 51:06
Since Elon Musk acquired X (formerly Twitter) in 2022, the platform has undergone dramatic changes; slashing headcount, losing major advertisers, and redefining its identity. Now, under CEO Linda Yaccarino and marketing lead Angela Zepeda (formerly of Hyundai), X is staging a comeback. Angela joins Jon to discuss her leap from automotive to tech, rebuilding advertiser trust, and the bold vision of...
Mars Brand Building Masterclass with Rankin Carroll 21.05.2025 53:20
Rankin Carroll is the Chief Brand Officer at Mars, having joined the company in 2002. Mars is responsible for some of the most well-known advertising in the world, for brands including M&M’s, Twix, Snickers, Skittles, and more. Jon speaks to Rankin about long-term brand building vs. performance marketing, how to get the most out of agencies, and what it takes to build a portfolio of incredible...
Chaos, Creativity & Courage - how Tubi took on the streaming giants - Nicole Parlapiano 14.05.2025 1:08:57
Nicole Parlapiano is the CMO of Tubi, an ad-supported streaming platform taking on the subscription giants. Nicole has previously had her own dating startup acquired by Match Group, before working in private equity, famously being Head of Marketing at WeWork during their crash and most recently VP Marketing for Tinder. Nicole is one of the most entrepreneurial CMOs on the planet, bringing a unique...
How not to be boring in B2B, AI agents and lessons from F1 - Colin Fleming 07.05.2025 41:07
Colin Fleming is a returning guest, and the CMO of ServiceNow, a B2B company ripping up the B2B marketing playbook. It’s not the first time Colin has done this, having previously spent 13 years at Salesforce turning them into a brand to be reckoned with. In this episode I talk to Colin about their new brand campaign with Idris Elba, what the future of marketing with AI looks like and the biggest l...
Scott Galloway vs Rory Sutherland - is the era of brand over? 30.04.2025 44:15
In a world first, Scott Galloway and Rory Sutherland go head to head to talk about some of the biggest topics in marketing. They lock horns on Scott's controversial statement "the era of brand is dead" and why most successful companies don't advertise. You'll also hear the two disagreeing on the Jaguar rebrand, at which point Scott may or may not have called Rory sexy... Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 0...
Who killed Duo? How Duolingo built a brand on entertainment 23.04.2025 53:06
Today, I’m joined by James Kuczynski, Creative Director at Duolingo, and Dan Salkey, Founding Partner at Small World, for a conversation on how to build truly entertaining brands. Fresh off their SXSW panel titled "Entertain or Die" , named after a report by Small World, we explore how Duolingo has built such a standout brand, particularly through the rise (and death...) of their iconic mascot, Du...
Dan Ariely: the hidden forces that shape your customers' decisions 16.04.2025 1:19:41
In this episode, we deep dive into the irrational world of customer behaviour with legendary behavioural economist Dan Ariely. Dan reveals why we’re all predictably wrong, how tiny invisible cues can radically change price perception, and why effort makes things feel more valuable. We also unpack the real reason people fall for misinformation, how to rebuild trust in broken industries like insuran...
Rory Sutherland on why marketing is the answer to economic growth 09.04.2025 51:17
Rory Sutherland returns to the Uncensored CMO podcast, tackling the economic crisis with his signature wit and wisdom. As ever, he offers a refreshingly unconventional perspective on the world’s biggest problems — and marketing’s role in solving them. In this episode, Rory explores why marketing is more like a casino than a science, how to capitalise on your competitors’ blind spots, and what his...
Prof G on AI eating itself, social media rage & the end of the CMO 02.04.2025 57:03
Scott Galloway (Prof G) has returned to the Uncensored CMO podcast for a second time, in a special live episode. Galloway is Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern School of Business and host of the Prof G and Pivot podcasts. He joins Jon in a special live episode in London and lives up to his billing as the most uncensored guest of all time. Scott takes big swings at the advertising industry through...
AI agents - personalisation, productivity & performance with Adobe, ServiceNow and IBM 31.03.2025 35:45
Live from Adobe Summit in Las Vegas, in this bonus triple header, Jon speaks with Colin Fleming (ServiceNow), Stacy Martinet (Adobe) and Billy Seabrook (IBM) about the hot topic in marketing today, AI, and what a new wave of agentic AI technology means for marketers. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:51 - Part 1: Colin Fleming 01:51 - The things people don’t understand about B2B marketing 03:32 - How AI...
Forbes guide to being an influential CMO - Seth Matlins 26.03.2025 50:19
Seth Matlins is the Managing Director of the Forbes Forbes CMO Network, where he oversees the annual Forbes World's Most Influential CMOs List, the Forbes Entrepreneurial CMO 50 List, the Forbes CMO Summit, the Forbes European CMO Summit, and an expanding marketing content portfolio. Seth is an award-winning marketer, who has spent a career in and advising the C-suite of dozens of the 100 most val...
Oreo’s playful positioning, bold innovation and brand partnerships - Eugenia Zalis 19.03.2025 47:10
Today Jon talks with Eugenia Zalis, CMO for one of the most iconic sweet brands in the world, Oreo. We talk about their "stay playful" positioning, incredible brand collaborations (with the likes of Coca-Cola and Post Malone) and some of the interesting innovations the brand has worked on. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:46 - Eugenia’s marketing journey 01:33 - What can we learn from the Unilever appr...
Cadillac’s re-launch of an iconic car brand for a new era 12.03.2025 45:11
Cadillac is an iconic American brand who are navigating the shift to electrification in the automotive industry and have partnered up with 72andSunny to launch their brand new campaign “Let’s Take the Cadillac. So today, Melissa Grady Dias, CMO of Cadillac, and Marianne Malina, President of 72andSunny join Jon to talk about working with a new agency and launching their first campaign together. Tim...
Rob Mayhew on the untapped creator opportunity in B2B, London vs New York and using social media as a brand 10.03.2025 32:20
Rob Mayhew joins Jon for bonus episode, talking about his big move to New York City, becoming a full-time content creator and how brands can work with creators like him effectively. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:39 - Why Rob moved to NYC 04:20 - Rob’s new YouTube show 05:47 - London vs New York for marketers 08:00 - Rob’s approach to content in 2025 11:00 - Rob’s view on the future of the social pla...
Rare Beauty: the story behind the success of Selena Gomez’s make up brand - Katie Welch 05.03.2025 51:37
Rare Beauty is a brand built on the inclusive approach to beauty set by their celebrity founder, Selena Gomez. They've taken the US market by storm and so I'm speaking to their CMO, Katie Welch, about how they've done it. From strong positioning and making a difference in mental health across their customer base to growing a strong presence on social media (with a little help from their founder wi...
Yum! CMO on cultural relevance, being innovative & creative risk taking (Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut) - Ken Muench 26.02.2025 1:05:09
This episode is a QSR masterclass. Ken Muench is the CMO of Yum! brands, who own Taco Bell, KFC and Pizza Hut. I speak to Ken about how he started the agency that got acquired by Yum! (The Collider Lab) and his journey to being the CMO of such a large group of brands. We also talk about how all CMOs within Yum! are encouraged to swing big to make impactful campaigns and drive innovation within the...
Creativity & Consistency: driving growth for the worlds largest beer brands - Marcel Marcondes 19.02.2025 42:58
Marcel Marcondes is the CMO of AB InBev, who run the largest portfolio of beer brands in the world. Stella Artois, Corona, Michelob Ultra and Budweiser are all under the marketing leadership of Marcel. Through creativity and consistency, AB InBev have produced some of the most effective campaigns of the past few years, often topping out the System1 charts. This has led to Marcel and his team to wi...
A masterclass on business productivity with Nir Eyal 17.02.2025 47:02
I think one of the biggest problems facing us today is the amount of distraction in our lives. Social media feeds, unnecessary meetings, huge inboxes full of emails you didn't really need. All these things are grabbing our attention and taking us away from doing what we're supposed to be doing. In this episode I'm talking to Nir Eyal, who's the author of a brilliant book called Indistractable, whi...
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