Jeff Pearlman

Two Writers Slinging Yang

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Jeff Pearlman's weekly in-depth, no-holds-barred conversation with a writer on writing. Available here and on iTunes

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Jeff Pearlman

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Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

Lacey Rose: Executive Editor, TV at The Hollywood Reporter 29.03.2022

On sitting across from Oprah and asking great questions; on whether celebrity can be intimidating; on how to convince people to open up during chats; on whether publicists are friends or foes.

Max Borenstein: Showrunner, writer, HBO's "Winning Time" 22.03.2022

On the enormous difference between Magic Johnson saying, "It does" and "It do"; on how to make a scene soar without overwriting and relying too much on dialogue; on sharing the credit for a project with dozens of collaborators. 

Mark Whicker: Newly retired Southern California News Group sports columnist 15.03.2022

On why it was time to set down his pen; on the old-school days of Philadelphia sports writing; on the biggest mistake of his career—and battling back; on Mike Schmidt and Steve Carlton and Pete Rose and Julio Franco.

Rodney Barnes: Writer and executive producer, "HBO's Winning Time." 08.03.2022

On the weird landscape that is Hollywood; on writing dialogue for characters based upon real people; on the art of the ideal comic book; on serving as a "Green Mile" standi-n. 

Jeff Pearlman and Catherine Pearlman: On the wild, wacky, crazy, serendipitous adventure of having "Showtime" become an HBO series 01.03.2022

On what happens when someone says, "We wanna turn your book into an HBO series"; on our magical day on set and the difficulties of Sidney Moncrief's name; on meeting Sally Field and watching your work come to life

Jim Hecht: Co-creator, writer and executive producer of HBO's "Winning Time" 22.02.2022

On what it's like to have a show coming out on HBO in two weeks; on the steps Jim took to option my book, "Showtime," and why he brought a block of chocolate, a tomato and imitation wine drink to my house; on life insider the writers' room.

Rita Williams-Garcia: Author, New York Times best-selling author of "One Crazy Summer" 15.02.2022

On what it's like having (my pathetic, podunk home turf) work to ban her book from school libraries; on why people feel so threatened by words on a page; on whether it's limiting to write for a younger audience.

Joseph Goodman: AL.com sports columnist, author of "We Want Bama: A Season of Hope and the Making of Nick Saban's 'Ultimate Team'" 08.02.2022

On locking himself in a cabin, living off of noodles and energy drinks while writing 8,000 words per day; on embracing the unique joy of shitty Amazon reviews; on why Urban Meyer is the world's biggest douche.

Mike Sielski: Philadelphia Inquirer columnist and author of, "The Rise: Kobe Bryant and the Pursuit of Immortality" 01.02.2022

On chronicling the early days of a basketball icon; on the complications of writing about someone who recently passed; on whether the modern newspaper sports columnist still matters; on being called out via Zoom by a Philadelphia Flyer standout.

Leah Vann: LSU football and baseball writer, The (Baton Rouge) Advocate 25.01.2022

On jumping on to a new beat midway through a high-profile coaching search; on going from Iowa to Louisiana; on why one would pursue journalism over medicine.

Chris Herring: Sports Illustrated writer and author, "Blood in the Garden: The Flagrant History of the 1990s New York Knicks" 18.01.2022

On chronicling the exploits of the NBA's most physical team; on efforts to speak with Patrick Ewing and John Starks; on saying no and no to a topic—then yes.

Jessie Sage: Writer/Sex Worker/Former Pittsburgh City Paper Sex Columnist 11.01.2022

On working in sex and also chronicling the world of the sex worker; on why the Washington Post insisted she use her real name in a byline; on whether saying, "I love you, too" to a client is kosher; on how one becomes a sex worker; on chronicling the trials of a trans child.

Chris Long: Former NFL defensive end and host of The Green Light Pod 04.01.2022

On athletes engaging with the media and deciding which reporters are trustworthy; on the myriad give-and-take options between scribes and jocks; on why nearly all professional football players are—ultimately—meat and what it's like to walk away from the sport.

Steve Cannella: Sports Illustrated co-editor in chief 28.12.2021

On the nightmarish joy/hell of the 1999 compilation of SI's 50th greatest athletes from every state; on how we left out George Brett (deliberately) and Evander Holyfield (accidentally); on whether print magazines are still worth reading; on how life without an office can be shockingly productive

Katie Strang: The Athletic senior enterprise and investigative writer 21.12.2021

On digging and digging and digging into a subject until there's nothing left to dig; on an eye-opening investigation into the Arizona Coyotes; on the art of the cold call; on the perils and/or advantages of interviewing someone over beers.

Mark Fainaru-Wada: ESPN investigative reporter and co-author of "Game of Shadows" 14.12.2021

On how Mark's Barry Bonds book brought him glory, while my Barry Bonds brought bought me Dollar Store space; on how the entire Balco investigation commenced; on the non-joys of cold calling subjects.

Kelsie Snow: Host, "Sorry, I'm Sad" podcast and former St. Paul Pioneer Press Twins beat writer 07.12.2021

On how her husband's ALS diagnosis led to catharsis via podcast; on listening to someone's pain without interruption or judgement; on why expressing one's feelings to a wide audience is so important.

Justin Tinsley: The Undefeated sports and culture writer 30.11.2021

On watching Allen Iverson cry and writing about it; on whether it's OK to think of a readership's makeup and cater toward it; on the hip-hop stylings of the late DMX. 

Michael Kay: New York Yankees play by play announcer and author, "CenterStage" 22.11.2021

On how to conduct the perfect interview; on why Dennis Quaid was such a nightmarish pain in the ass; on Reggie Jackson and Joe Torre and having people open up when they'd rather not open up; on beginning as a New York beat writer.

Chuck Culpepper: Washington Post sports writer 16.11.2021

On how he still finds joy and passion out of a Michigan-Michigan state football game; on how living around the world has shaped his appreciation of the job; on an angry Rick Pitino and the rise and fall of The National.

Anne Byrn: Elite food writer, multiple New York Times best-selling cookbook author 09.11.2021

On how one creates recipes; on the potential magic of banana chicken; on selling more than 4 million (yes—4 million) books; on adjusting to Substack and not caring what people think.

Jimmy Kimmel: Host and Executive Producer, "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" 02.11.2021

On the difference between writing funny and being funny; on what goes into the "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" writing process; on the confusing, dated humor of Bob Hope; on why Fred Savage was able to forgive and why Donald Trump, Jr. remains an excellent source of material.

Ivan Maisel: Veteran college football writer and author of: "I Keep Trying to Catch His Eye: A Memoir of Loss, Grief, And Love" 26.10.2021

On what it is to write about grief, and how it helps (or doesn't help) the healing process; on the best ways to help people who are grieving; on what he would like us to know about his son, Max

Kavitha Davidson: The Athletic 19.10.2021

On what it means to cover the intersection of sports and social issues; on what to write about Trevor Bauer; on why it's OK to have a Yankee tattoo and write about the Yankees; on writing a book with another person. 

Paul Gutierrez, ESPN.com's Las Vegas Raiders beat writer 11.10.2021

On covering a team far from home by living in his parents' Vegas-based RV; on how to report on the NFL's first openly gay player; on whether it's still possible to break news during a pandemic.

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