Rachel and Lia
Two Wives and A Spark
We are Two Wives and A Spark. As new parents and as an interracial couple, we are on a mission to connect with others and explore how Race and Politics influence families like ours. We believe intentional conversations are vehicles for change, so we're committed to learning in public and having real talk every step of the way.
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Rachel and Lia
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Jul 15, 2025
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Episodes
EP16: Standing At the Door Of the Unknown 21.12.2021 34:39
Welcome to Episode 16 of Two Wives And A SPARK! This is our final episode of the season, and what a journey it has been. Today's episode is about preparing for what's next, the unknown. Tune in as we discuss: How we prepare for major changes Interracial layers that come up Standing at the edge of a mountain looking out, not knowing what will come Sending a BIG THANK YOU to all of you for be...
EP15:Our Thoughts On Building A Biracial Family 14.12.2021 42:03
Welcome to Episode 15 of Two Wives And A SPARK! Today's episode is all about answering your questions! We love hearing the things y'all have been thinking about, talking about, and wondering in regards to our journey. Tune in as we discuss: Our fertility journey and finding a donor Our decision regarding who would carry Potential names our child will call us Resources that were invaluable throug...
EP14: Preparing For Parenthood As An Interracial Couple (Part 2) 07.12.2021 49:12
Welcome to Episode 14 of Two Wives And A SPARK! Today's episode is Part 2 of our journey preparing for parenthood as an interracial couple. Tune in as we discuss: Our own childhood and upbringing (and how that informs the lenses we have) Preparing for maternity leave and learning about inequities in the parental leave space Additional decisions we're thinking about & discussing when it comes to...
EP13: Preparing For Parenthood As An Interracial Couple (Part 1) 30.11.2021 42:39
Welcome to Episode 13 of Two Wives And A SPARK! Today's episode is all about our journey preparing for parenthood as an interracial couple. We talk about how our own personal values are helping shape our vision for our future and our family. Tune in as we discuss: Our own family values and how they inform our decisions What we have learned about setting limits and living in alignment with those...
EP12: Making the Invisible Visible 23.11.2021 45:49
Welcome to Episode 12 of Two Wives And A SPARK! Today's episode is about making the invisible visible. We talk through what it's been like for us to navigate the journey of making our internal experiences externally seen and known. Tune in as we discuss: The invisible layers we have had to navigate on our pregnancy journey The journey of starting SPARK and the behind-the-scenes layers most peopl...
EP11: Growth Requires Shedding Layers 16.11.2021 34:32
Welcome to Episode 11 of Two Wives And A SPARK! On today's episode, we are continuing our discussion about growth and talking about the necessity of shedding old layers. As we grow and transform, oftentimes we begin to see things differently. We may notice the people around us and our relationships in a different light, and this can be an adjustment. While sometimes difficult to experience and pr...
EP10: Breaks Lead to Breakthroughs (And Resistance Comes With Growth) 09.11.2021 52:37
"The only constant in the world is change" - Heraclitus Welcome to Episode 10 of Two Wives And A SPARK! Today's episode is all about the inevitable less-talked-about side of growth: resistance, change, breaks, and breakthroughs. We delve into these topics, and share a few stories both personally and professionally. Tune in as we discuss: Our own relationship break and how it lead to a major break...
EP9: The Gifts That Come With Time and Space 02.11.2021 41:00
W elcome to Episode 9 of Two Wives And A SPARK! We kick off today's episode with some really exciting news. Our theme for this season is "Growing Through Change," and we are truly living this every day both in our personal and professional lives. Personally we are excited to share that we are growing our family! Tune in to today's episode as we share and discuss: How growing our family has taught...
Season 2: We're Back! 26.10.2021 2:07
Hey y'all. It's Lia and Rachel from Two Wives And A SPARK, and we're back and excited to kick off Season 2! So much has happened since we left off, and this season is coming with lots of growth, newness, and excitement. We want to give you a little glimpse of what you can expect from this season. The theme for Season 2 is Growing through Change. We are going to talk about what growth and change ha...
EP8: Shining a Light 08.06.2021 17:35
" We need more light about each other. Light creates understanding, understanding creates love, love creates patience, and patience creates unity. " - Malcolm X Welcome to the last episode of season 2 of Two Wives and A SPARK! It's been an amazing season with a lot of reflections and conversations, and we're so thankful you've been with us on this journey . In today's episode, we share some real-...
EP7: Processing the Pause 01.06.2021 25:23
" Incubate [my thoughts] in the womb of my mind before I birth them through the canal of my mouth. Once a thought is birthed, you can't retract it " - Bishop T.D. Jakes Thank you for joining us for another episode of Two Wives and A SPARK! Today we discuss the importance of taking necessary pauses in this work. We process out-loud and share some real-time reflections about some recent resistance w...
EP6: Moving From Knowing to Doing 25.05.2021 32:30
"Not everything that is faced can be changed but nothing can be changed until it is faced." James Baldwin Welcome to episode 6 of Two Wives and A SPARK! In today's episode, we unpack what's required of us to go from knowing new information to doing something new in service of racial equity and racial justice. We continue to talk about why micro-steps and micro-moments matter so much in this wor...
EP5: How We Show Up Matters 18.05.2021 25:56
" Communication works for those who work at it ." John Powell Welcome to another episode of Two Wives and A SPARK! As a continuation of the previous episodes, today we will be talking about communication, engagement, and showing up. To build habits, consistent work and practice are essential. When we learn how to communicate with each other across racial differences and enter each other's spaces i...
EP4: Know Better, Do Better 11.05.2021 33:14
" Do the best you can until you know better. Then, when you know better, do better ." Maya Angelou In today's episode of Two Wives and A S.P.A.R.K, we will be talking about what it takes to do better with our words and actions when it comes to interracial connections and conversations. We talk about something called "the intention gap" and invite our community to reflect on the difference between...
EP3: The Marathon 04.05.2021 33:40
"Practice makes permanence." - Mark Salinas Welcome to the third episode of Two Wives and a SPARK! Today's episode starts with a story about a child who does not understand the amount of work it takes for a permanent marker to come off a desk. We talk about how that's a metaphor for a country still working on the stain that racism has left on its history. We speak about how working for racial eq...
EP2: Seeing Race 27.04.2021 36:17
"For the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. They may allow us to temporarily beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change. Racism and homophobia are real conditions of all our lives in this place and time. I urge each one of us here to reach down into that deep place of knowledge inside herself and touch that terror and loathing of any...
When Will This End? 20.04.2021 3:36
Hey y'all. It's Lia. We've had a lot of pain surface yet again in this country. There's lots of pain that is always going on in this country. But when it takes over the media outlets and social media becomes even more heightened in the lives of those of us who are usually carrying consciously and subconsciously pain that happens in this country every day. This week I went back to my roots and di...
EP1: If Not Now Then When? 08.04.2021 22:35
"Community isn't always synonymous with warmth and harmony. Politeness is often a veneer for understanding when in reality it masks uncovered territory, the unspeakable pit that we turn from because we know the pain and anger that can dwell there. It is important to remind ourselves that real community is forged out of struggle. This is the crucible from which a real community grows." Linda Christ...
Trailer 07.04.2021 1:18
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