Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales

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"Two Tall Guys Talking Sales," where Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson discuss a single sales topic. Kevin and Sean together have about 60 years of experience in professional selling. This podcast helps people in sales, sales leadership, and business leadership or company owners realize the maximum value of their company by improving their revenue generation capability. This podcast is designed to help those people enhance their companies' sales management practices, methodologies, processes, teams, and messaging. Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson are Fractional Vice Presidents of Sales....

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Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey

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Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

From SWOT to Success: Navigating the Competitive Sales Landscape 22.08.2023

In this invigorating episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey dive deep into the realm of competition in sales. From understanding the various forms competition can take to harnessing the power of artificial intelligence in competitive analysis, this episode is packed with insights and actionable advice for sales professionals at all levels. Key Topics Dis...

Driving Sales Success: Why KPIs Are More Than Just Numbers 15.08.2023

Get ready to unlock the secrets of mastering the sales game with Two Tall Guys Talking Sales! This episode delves into the nuances of key performance indicators (KPIs), their significance in measuring sales efficiency, and the art of mentorship among salespeople. Listen as our hosts Sean and Kevin uncover the analogy of KPIs and share insights about setting the right measures for salespeople at va...

Sales Leadership Mastery: How to Coach, Not Micromanage, Your Team 08.08.2023

Welcome to another riveting episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales with your dynamic hosts, Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson. In this episode, our duo takes on a subject that stirs strong emotions in the sales world: micromanagement. With a combined experience of several decades in sales, Sean and Kevin delve into their philosophies, personal experiences, and provide actionable insights on tra...

Revamping Your Outbound Sales Approach: Value Proposition, Touch Points, and Tactics 01.08.2023

Welcome to another exciting episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales with hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey. On this episode, we delve into the vital world of outbound sales in a post-COVID landscape. We discuss strategies for creating an effective outbound pipeline, reflecting on our experiences with trade shows, and how to nail your unique value proposition. Discover how to master omnicha...

Three-Legged Stool of Sales Success: Networking, Direct Prospecting, and Customer Referrals 25.07.2023

In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosts Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson get tactical on sales prospecting. They dive deep into sales strategies and tactics, discussing how to build momentum for the latter half of the year and beyond. Whether your sales pipeline is currently thriving or needs a refill, this episode offers valuable insights that apply to all sales situations. Key...

Creating True Value in Sales: Redefining Problems and Delivering Unique Solutions 18.07.2023

In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey delve deep into the salesperson's value in the modern sales process. Our hosts discuss how the role of the salesperson has evolved with the advent of the internet and the importance of building trust with potential buyers. They also talk about redefining buyer needs and how to differentiate your product or s...

Breaking Growth Barriers: When Should CEOs Stop Leading Sales? 11.07.2023

In this insightful episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey deep-dive into the crucial topic of assigning the right person to the sales leadership role within a company, and the risks and opportunities that come with it. Leveraging their experiences in sales consultancy and drawing from the wisdom of thought leaders and successful entrepreneurs, they explo...

Happy Independence Day! 04.07.2023

The hosts of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales wish you a Happy Independence Day! You can reach out to Sean at New Sales Expert, LLC & Sales Xceleration - Sean@NewSales. Expert - https://www.linkedin.com/in/soshaughnessey/ You can reach out to Kevin at Lighthouse Sales Advisors & Sales Xceleration - kevin@lighthousesalesadvisors.com - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwlawson/

Bridging the Sales and Marketing Gap: Mastering MQLs and SQLs 27.06.2023

In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosts Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson delve into the crucial difference between a Marketing Qualified Lead (MQL) and a Sales Qualified Lead (SQL). They explain how the two require different types of messaging and engagement and highlight the importance of refining the process of transitioning leads from one category to another. Key Topics Discus...

Navigating Your Sales Pipeline: Effective Strategies for Conversion Success 20.06.2023

On this insightful episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, co-hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey dive into a crucial aspect of successful sales: managing and organizing a sales pipeline. Episode Highlights: The Pipeline Mess: Sales pipelines, just like a room full of kids' sports gear, can often become a chaotic. Sean and Kevin discuss the importance of maintaining a clear and clean pipeli...

A Roadmap for Successful Sales: Strategy, Tactics and More 13.06.2023

In this dynamic episode of the "Two Tall Guys Talking Sales" podcast, hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey, delve into the importance of strategy in successful sales performance. Using a navigational analogy, the hosts discuss how just like using an app like Waze, successful sales also requires anticipation and understanding of the challenges on the way. Drawing parallels between navigation...

Mastering Mid-Year Reviews: The Sales Perspective 06.06.2023

In this enlightening episode of "Two Tall Guys Talking Sales," Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson delve into the fundamental aspect of setting clear expectations in sales, mirroring the way parents do with their children. With mid-year reviews around the corner, it's time to reflect, analyze, and readjust your sales strategies. Kevin starts with a compelling anecdote about his childhood bedtime...

The Art of Differentiation: How to Excel in Sales and Earn More Money 30.05.2023

In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, Sean O'Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson discuss the importance of standing out and differentiating oneself in the competitive world of sales. They explore how salespeople can escape the commodity mindset and become trusted advisors to their clients, ultimately leading to more money and success. Key takeaways from the episode include: The importance of d...

Understanding and Adapting to the Buyer's Journey for Sales Success 23.05.2023

In this thought-provoking podcast, hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O'Shaughnessey dive into the challenges salespeople face when their sales process doesn't align with the buyer's journey. Using the example of a beer industry manufacturer, they explore the difficulties encountered when dealing with prospects who are only interested in the price and user count and how this can lead to feeling like a co...

Adapting Sales Strategies in a Changing World 16.05.2023

In this episode of the podcast, Kevin and Sean discuss the necessity for sales leaders to adapt their advice and strategies in today's ever-changing environment. With the numerous changes and challenges that businesses face every day, sales leaders must constantly evolve and stay ahead of the curve to help their teams succeed. The discussion touches on how being a trusted advisor to clients is cru...

The Power of Service: How Giving Back Can Drive Sales Success featuring Jim Hardwick, Chief Community Officer of Sales Xceleration 09.05.2023

In this inspiring episode of "Two Tall Guys Talking Sales," the hosts, Sean and Kevin, welcome Jim Hardwick, Chief Community Officer for Sales Xceleration and Fractional VP of Sales. As a seasoned sales professional with 36 years of experience in healthcare, Jim shares his journey from climbing the corporate ladder to finding purpose and joy in his current role. He attributes his newfound happines...

From Slump to Success: Guiding Salespeople through Tough Times 02.05.2023

In this podcast episode, Kevin and Sean discuss how to help a top-performing salesperson get through a slump and back on track. They emphasize the importance of a time-based sales strategy and keeping an eye on the early stages of a sale, such as lead generation and relationship building. They recommend reinforcing the positive aspects of a salesperson's work and ensuring they are following the ri...

Catching People Doing Things Right: Rewarding Sales Efforts and Results 25.04.2023

In this engaging podcast episode, hosts Kevin and Sean dive into the crucial topic of rewarding effort and results during sales meetings. They emphasize the importance of recognizing salespeople's achievements through monetary rewards, acknowledgment, and praise. The hosts discuss the impact of consistent processes for catching people doing things right and sharing best practices among sales teams...

Part 2 - Building and Scaling Successful Sales Teams: A Conversation with Tim Warren of Helium SEO 18.04.2023

In this podcast, Tim Warren, CEO of Helium-SEO, discusses his approach to handling difficult situations in a sales environment. He emphasizes the importance of coaching opportunities and scaling through challenges or problems with existing salespeople. Tim shares his approach to handling a situation where an account manager did not provide the level of service they were supposed to, causing a clie...

Building and Scaling Successful Sales Teams: A Conversation with Tim Warren of Helium SEO 11.04.2023

In this podcast, Kevin and Sean talk to Tim Warren, the founder and CEO of Helium SEO. Tim talks about his background and how he got into sales. He discusses his experience in building technical engineering-focused SEO and SEM campaigns for mid-size and enterprise clients. He also explains how his company has been able to drive higher ROI for its clients. Tim shares his leadership journey as a sal...

Selling Yourself: The Importance of Personal Branding in Sales - A Conversation With Megan O'Hara 04.04.2023

Kevin and Sean continue to discuss the importance of staying relevant to customers and prospects. In the first part of the podcast, Sean interviews Megan O'Hara of EasyIT about the challenges of reaching customers in the digital age, where everyone is bombarded with emails and messages. They discuss the importance of being authentic, providing value, and standing out from the competition. They als...

Part 2 of Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals with Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies 28.03.2023

Kelly Crandall returns to Two Tall Guys Talking Sales for her second episode in two weeks. Kelly is an expert in sales after working in the corporate world, running a small business, providing Fractional Sales Leadership for her customers in Florida, and now is the Visionary for Sales Xceleration.  This episode centers around building a strong value proposition and creating a sales strategy that r...

Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals with Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies 21.03.2023

Kevin and Sean have a special guest for this episode! Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies.  Kelly is a sales expert who works as an advisor to help mid to small-size businesses build a path to more sales. The topic of the conversation is "The Sales Skills Required to Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals." Kelly talks about the importance of value propositi...

Sales Meetings Are for Educational Purposes 14.03.2023

In this episode of "Two Tall Guys talking Sales," Sean and Kevin provide insights on how to conduct effective sales meetings that focus on education and training. They suggest assigning individual salespeople to research topics or chapters of a book to teach the team, ensuring everyone becomes an authority on the topic. The hosts stress the importance of repetition and testing knowledge by applyin...

Focus on One or Two Key Topics in Your Weekly Sales Meeting 07.03.2023

Your sales meeting should discuss the highest priority topics that require immediate attention. For broader issues, it is recommended to use other venues. To stay on point, it is important to control the agenda and flow of the meeting. Additionally, meeting minutes should be kept short and focused on action items to ensure that tasks are completed following the meeting. To promote growth, discussi...

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