David K. Shipler & Daniel Zwerdling

TWO REPORTERS

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David K. Shipler & Daniel Zwerdling have spent their lives investigating thorny and neglected issues, winning journalism’s top awards along the way. Now join Dave and Danny on TWO REPORTERS, as they interview stellar guests about pressing social problems and solutions - and just fascinating stuff - in ways you haven’t heard before. Advisory: Episodes may contain laughing, arguing and moments of irreverence.

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David K. Shipler & Daniel Zwerdling

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Society

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www.tworeporters.org

Latest episode

Jun 27, 2026

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Episodes

Is George Orwell's 1984 coming true? / Part 3 09.07.2022

It could happen to you: police mistakenly suspect or arrest you, because an app's location data show you were near the scene of a crime. The ACLU's Nathan Wessler returns to explain how geolocation, voice recognition and other high-tech tracking methods - including your gait! - could disrupt your life in ways you hardly expect. 

Is George Orwell's 1984 coming true? / Part 2 02.07.2022

America's surveillance network is nowhere near as pervasive and chilling as China's (hear about China in our last episode), but U.S. companies and government agencies are already using high-tech tools like facial recognition to track you, more than you might think. As the ACLU's Nathan Wessler tells us, the facial recognition software sometimes goofs - and ordinary, innocent people...

Is George Orwell's 1984 coming true? / Part 1 11.06.2022

It's not just fiction anymore: the frightening vision of mass surveillance that Orwell painted has come to life - in China. In fact, Conor Healy of IPVM says that China's vast network of cameras, cell phone tracking, face and voice recognition, and other advanced technology surpasses what Orwell made up. In Part 2, coming soon, we'll examine whether the U.S. is traveling down a simi...

Two black cops: "Almost nothing's changed since Black Lives Matter. Nothing." / Part 2 08.05.2022

If you could wave a magic wand and make racist behavior disappear from America's police departments, how would you do it? Ray Rice and Shanette Hall, both black officers, have ideas: fire racist cops starting tomorrow, and transform recruiting and training. All their suggestions face huge obstacles.

Two black cops: "Almost nothing's changed since Black Lives Matter. Nothing." / Part 1 10.04.2022

Officer Shanette Hall and Lt. Ray Rice joined St. Louis County's police department because they were passionate about making things better - by rooting out racism and bringing police and their community closer together. Instead, they say department officials are punishing them for speaking out about racial injustice. You'll be moved by their unsettling stories. 

If you eat meat, or don’t eat meat, listen to this! / Part 2 20.03.2022

Imagine meat that's cultured in factory tanks instead of grown on a farm. Thinks it's a fantasy of the future? They're already selling it in Singapore - and professional tasters can't tell the difference between the laboratory and the farm-raised version. Bruce Friedrich, CEO of the Good Food Institute, joins us again to explain how pathbreaking companies are "cultivating&...

If you eat meat - or don’t eat meat - you need to hear this! / Part 1 13.03.2022

Bruce Friedrich, former master strategist at PETA, streaked naked past Buckingham Palace with "GoVeg" painted on his body. Like that tactic or not, you'll be astonished as Bruce explains how you can fight global poverty, help prevent a medical crisis, fight climate change - and prevent massive suffering - simply by cutting back on (or shunning) farm-raised meat. 

Does Iran mistrust/hate the US for justified reasons? 19.02.2022

Nations are like people: once they've been traumatized, it's hard to forget. The US and Britain toppled the democratically-elected leader of Iran almost 70 years ago. Why? For the oil. Filmmakers Taghi Amirani and Walter Murch discuss their riveting documentary, Coup 53 - which shows step by step how the CIA and MI6 carried it out.

Can you name a Republican with morals and scruples? / Part 2 29.01.2022

Whatever your political leanings, you're about to go, Really?! when you hear what Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower did in the White House. Many historians used to rank "Ike" among the worst American presidents; last year they ranked him 5th best . Granddaughter Susan Eisenhower, who consults with international executives and government leaders, dug up astonishing facts abou...

Can you name a Republican with morals and scruples? / Part 1 23.01.2022

Here’s one – but he died more than 50 years ago. In an era when Republican leaders are trying to destroy America’s democracy, it’s a revelation to reconsider Dwight D. Eisenhower. His granddaughter, Susan Eisenhower, dug through diaries, letters and government documents to bring him back to life.   

Want to hear a strategy that can help save America’s democracy? - Part 2 29.12.2021

An ingenious news site for immigrants just might be the model for reviving local journalism. Actually, every media company should study how Documented keeps attracting a bigger audience, learning from them and forging bonds with the community.

Want to hear a strategy that can help save America’s democracy? - Part 1 26.12.2021

Local newspapers and other local news sources are dying, which is one reason many people can’t separate fact from fiction - a crisis we began to detail a few episodes ago. But the American Journalism Project has a solution - and director Sarabeth Berman joins Two Reporters to lay it out. Hint: your local news site might become your favorite charity.

Behind the scenes of TV news / Part 2 26.11.2021

In Part 2 of our chat with Terence Smith - veteran of The New York Times , CBS and PBS - he takes us behind the scenes to show us the dramatically different ways in which print and broadcast reporters cover the news. Example: cute animals sometimes beat out Terry on TV. 

He covered four wars and five presidents / Part 1 21.11.2021

A nd now Terence Smith takes us back to the golden era in modern American journalism - the 1960s, 70s and 80s, when he sent dispatches from around the globe back to The New York Times and CBS . Marilyn Monroe, the Six-Day War in the Middle East, the war in Vietnam - Terry gives us fascinating glimpses of them all, in his new memoir and on Two Reporters . Coming soon in Part 2: the love/hate world...

As local newspapers die, is America’s democracy dying with them? 31.10.2021

Maybe you never read the Birmingham Post-Herald or Green Bay News-Chronicle, but thousands of papers like them have died in recent years. That’s left a vacuum – which other media have helped fill with propaganda, opinion and outright lies. The New Yorker’s Evan Osnos returns to Two Reporters to diagnose the troubling causes, and describe an intriguing strategy to revive local news.

How can hedge fund executives make so much money, anyway? 06.10.2021

The New Yorker’s Evan Osnos tells us the infuriating answer in Part 2 of our chat about his new book, Wildland . As Evan says, hedge fund executives and their political allies have shaped America’s laws to benefit themselves more than you. Yet, Evan explains why he’s optimistic about America’s future. 

What do poor blacks, hedge fund executives and coal miners have in common? 01.10.2021

Evan Osnos, staff writer for The New Yorker , gives a provocative answer as he chats about his new book, Wildland . Democrats and Republicans alike should hear what Evan has found, as he’s explored why America is so fractured.

Will Republicans allow Alona Whitebird to teach her students about racism? 11.09.2021

Oklahoma is one of the latest states where Republicans have passed a law that gives history teachers chills - when it comes to teaching about race, gender and other human rights issues. Teachers can lose their licenses if state officials don't like what they teach. NOTE: We wish Alona had been our  teacher in high school ...

Congressional Republicans: “Would you rather lose your soul or lose an election?” 25.07.2021

Bob Inglis, the former conservative Republican congressman, explains his strategy for getting Democrats and Republicans to fight climate change - together . Plus, in Part 2 of our conversation: will Republicans destroy America’s democracy?

God helped prod this Republican to fight climate change / Part 1 16.07.2021

After Bob Inglis collapsed and lay on the floor, in the wake of losing a Congressional election, he heard a voice in his head. The words spurred him to see political enemies - and the world - in a new light.

White extremists are brainwashing your neighbors – and maybe some of your family, too 23.06.2021

Home repair and cooking lessons on youtube, martial arts classes and catchy music: white extremists are using them all to spread racist, anti-semitic and anti-immigrant ideas, sometimes more cleverly than you think. Cynthia Miller-Idriss joins us again, to help us spot when loved ones are getting hooked - and then know how to  handle it. 

We thought we knew about white extremists … 16.06.2021

... but what Cynthia Miller-Idriss tells us in this two-part episode gives us chills. Hear in Part 1 about key extremist groups, their philosophies and growing violence. Coming soon: How President Biden’s new plan to fight extremism might – or might not - help.

What's up with Walmart and food programs for hungry people? 30.05.2021

Maria Rose Belding joins us again with one of her mentors, Robert Egger, who founded one of America’s most acclaimed food programs for hungry people. Robert used to run nightclubs but now he's devoted to helping the poor. He and Maria Rose argue that corporations have taken over many of the nation's food programs - not always helping the people they serve.  

You'll feel better about the future of America ... 23.05.2021

… after you meet Maria Rose Belding. It’s corny but true: Maria Rose is not quite 26, she’s exuberant and seemingly tireless, and her path-breaking app that helps hungry people is used across the nation. But Maria Rose’s inspiration for this great idea came from a troubling place.

OMG the U.S. President could take over the internet! (maybe) 08.05.2021

Presidents have drawn up plans to wield sweeping emergency powers - and some of those plans are so secret that even Congress has never seen them. Elizabeth Goitein, of the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice, has unearthed dozens of emergency presidential powers. You'll give thanks Trump didn't use them.

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