Excess Returns
Two Quants and a Financial Planner
Two Quants and a Financial Planner bridges the worlds of investing and financial planning to help investors achieve their long-term goals. Join Matt Zeigler, Jack Forehand and Justin Carbonneau as they cover a wide range of investing and financial planning topics that impact all of us and discuss how we can apply them in the real world to achieve the best outcomes in our financial lives.
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Jul 5, 2026
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20,000 Watched in Silence. Then Buffett Dropped the Bombshell. | What It Means for Berkshire 09.06.2025 1:09:55
In this special episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler is joined by Bogumil Baranowski to reflect on one of the most emotional and historic moments in financial history: Warren Buffett’s surprise announcement at the 2024 Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting. With commentary from voices who were in the room—and some who weren’t—we explore what it felt like, what it meant, and what comes next for Berk...
The Great Distortion: The Hidden Impact of Passive Investing | Practical Lessons from Mike Green 26.05.2025 52:36
In this episode of Excess Returns, we explore the profound impact of passive investing with one of the most provocative thinkers in the space—Mike Green. Mike has developed a framework that challenges traditional market assumptions, shedding light on how seemingly "passive" investment flows might be actively reshaping markets, valuations, and even systemic stability. Using clips from our interview...
Sequence Risk Can Derail Your Retirement: Here is How to Stop It | Practical Lessons from Wade Pfau 19.05.2025 1:02:38
In this episode, we dive deep into the fundamentals of retirement planning with one of the most respected researchers in the field—Wade Pfau. Wade is known for blending rigorous academic research with real-world financial advice. We explore his groundbreaking ideas on the 4% rule, sequence of returns risk, annuities, income frameworks, and his innovative Retirement Income Style Awareness (RISA) mo...
The Seismic Shift Markets Are Missing | Practical Lessons from Ben Hunt & Grant Williams 12.05.2025 1:05:57
In this episode, we dive deep into some of the most thought-provoking ideas from two of the most original minds in investing: Ben Hunt and Grant Williams. Through a curated selection of powerful clips, we explore how markets have transformed from mechanisms of capital allocation to platforms of narrative and speculation. Ben and Grant challenge conventional wisdom, question the stories we tell our...
The Diversification Delusion | The Risk that Leaves Both Stocks and Bonds Exposed 07.05.2025 59:47
In this episode, Jack and Matt revisit one of the most debated topics in investing: the fate of the classic 60/40 portfolio. Drawing on insights from some of the smartest minds in finance—Bob Elliott, Adam Butler, Warren Pies, Rick Ferri, Jared Dillian, Andrew Beer, and Cliff Asness—they explore whether the traditional stock/bond mix still makes sense in today's environment or if investors need to...
The Irrecoverable Error: Risk, Ruin, and the Rules of Wealth | Practical Lessons from Guy Spier 28.04.2025 1:06:31
In this episode, Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski dive deep into the timeless investing wisdom of Guy Spier. Drawing from Spier’s interviews on both Excess Returns and Talking Billions, they explore crucial ideas about investing, risk, decision-making, and living a meaningful life. From understanding why letting your winners run can enhance returns to redefining true success, this episode is pa...
The Dark Side of Value Investing: Practical Lessons from Aswath Damodaran 16.04.2025 1:08:07
Join Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski as they play our favorite clips from both the Excess Returns and Talking Billions podcast interviews with Aswath Damodaran. This conversation unpacks Damodaran’s timeless insights on navigating uncertainty, embracing the process of investing, and finding comfort in a volatile market. From the ritualistic allure of the Berkshire Hathaway meeting to the pitfa...
Tariffs Are Here. The Market is Down. Here is What It Means for Investors 03.04.2025 1:05:02
In this episode, dive into the complex world of tariffs, national debt, and economic policies under the current administration. With the S&P down 4% and markets reacting to recent policy shifts, we bring you insights from our previous interviews with Cullen Roche and Andy Constan to break down these pressing issues. This episode is designed for everyday investors and money managers alike, offe...
Most Great Traders Failed First: These Key Rules Saved Them | Practical Lessons from Jack Schwager 31.03.2025 49:14
In this episode, Matt and Jack dive into the timeless wisdom of Jack Schwager, renowned author of the Market Wizards series. Drawing from two insightful interviews with Schwager, they explore key lessons from some of the greatest traders he’s interviewed, like Paul Tudor Jones and Steve Cohen, and unpack how these principles apply not only to trading but also to long-term investing and life. From...
75% of Investors Will Disagree with These Ideas: Evidence Says They are True 24.03.2025 55:37
In this episode, we dive into the most controversial takesfrom our podcast guests. Inspired by a brilliant question from Meb Faber(thanks, Meb!), we’ve compiled insights from top financial minds to explorebeliefs that challenge conventional wisdom. From debunking dividend hype toreimagining the role of options and AI in investing, this episode is packedwith thought-provoking perspectives. Main Top...
The Great Moderation is Over: Here is What Comes Next | Practical Lessons from Liz Ann Sonders 17.03.2025 52:43
In this episode, we break down key lessons from our conversation with Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab, exploring timeless investment principles and market dynamics that remain relevant regardless of current market conditions. From the end of the "Great Moderation" era to practical insights about market timing and portfolio management, Liz Ann's wisdom o...
Value Investing: Dead or Just Misunderstood? | Special Guest: Tobias Carlisle 10.03.2025 1:07:59
In this episode, Jack and Matt dive deep into the state of value investing with special guest Tobias Carlisle, founder of the Acquirers Funds and author of multiple books on value investing. In this insightful conversation, they look at some of the most insightful clips from our guests including Cliff Asness, Aswath Damodaran, Kai Wu, Scott McBride, Larry Swedroe and Dan Rasmussen. They explore wh...
Practical Lessons from Bob Elliott 03.03.2025 58:01
In this compilation episode, Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler bring you the most valuable insights from our interviews with Bob Elliott, founder of Unlimited Funds and former head of Ray Dalio's research team at Bridgewater. 🔑 Key Topics Covered: Markets and Macroeconomic Reality Elliott dismantles the notion that markets can permanently detach from economic fundamentals, walking through how ea...
Practical Lessons from Warren Pies 24.02.2025 1:03:27
In this episode, Jack and Matt dive deep into unique perspectives on markets and investing through the lens of Warren Pies and Fernando Vidal's innovative research approaches. They explore: A fresh take on the 60/40 portfolio debate and why the death of this strategy may be greatly exaggerated How to interpret market breadth and retail sentiment through new indicators like inverse ETF volume W...
Practical Lessons from Cem Karsan | Inside the Hidden Forces Moving Markets 17.02.2025 1:04:09
In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt and Jack explore key lessons from one of our most popular guests, Cem Karsan. Through selected clips from multiple interviews, they unpack Karsan's unique insights on markets, investing, and risk management. The discussion covers critical concepts including: The fundamental importance of supply, demand, and liquidity in markets Why thinking probabilistic...
Practical Lessons from Jim Paulsen 10.02.2025 1:05:57
In this episode, Matt and Jack break down key insights from our interview with market strategist Jim Paulsen. Paulsen offers unique perspectives on how markets have evolved over his 40-year career, from the days when investors checked bank signs for daily Dow quotes to today's high-speed algorithmic trading environment. Key topics covered: Why traditional market valuation metrics may need upda...
Practical Lessons from Jason Buck 03.02.2025 48:36
In this episode, Jack and Matt dive deep into their conversation with Jason Buck about building truly robust investment portfolios that can withstand any market environment. Moving beyond the typical "stocks only go up" mentality, they explore critical concepts like: The real difference between offense and defense in portfolio construction Why treating your portfolio as savings rather th...
Practical Lessons from Ed Yardeni 27.01.2025 52:22
In this deep-dive conversation, Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler break down key insights from their interview with Dr. Ed Yardeni, one of Wall Street's most respected market strategists. The discussion explores how Yardeni's independent thinking and data-driven approach led him to correctly predict several major market developments in 2023-24, including the path of inflation and the absence...
Practical Lessons from Cliff Asness 20.01.2025 58:08
In this episode, Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler discuss their fascinating interview with AQR founder Cliff Asness. They explore several key topics from their conversation, including: Cliff's humorous take on morning routines and why correlation doesn't equal causation when it comes to success habits The "Less Efficient Market Hypothesis" and why Cliff believes markets may be beco...
Practical Lessons from Warren Buffett | Timeless Wisdom from the Oracle of Omaha 13.01.2025 54:28
In this episode of "Two Quants and a Financial Planner," we break down some of Warren Buffett's most important investing lessons and life wisdom through a series of interview clips and annual meeting footage. We start by discussing whether Buffett truly deserves the "GOAT" (Greatest of All Time) title in investing, drawing some interesting parallels to NFL running backs like Barry Sanders and comp...
Practical Lessons from Larry Swedroe | Why Evidence Beats Market Narratives 06.01.2025 1:02:41
In this episode of "Two Quants and a Financial Planner," we explore key insights from our previous conversations with Larry Swedroe, one of investing's most evidence-based thinkers. Through a series of clips, we examine crucial investment principles including: Why all investment decisions should be grounded in evidence rather than narratives or speculation The challenge of market forecasting and w...
The Unforecast Episode: Making Our 2025 Market Calls to Show Why Forecasting is a Waste of Time 30.12.2024 1:00:32
We're back with our annual predictions episode, where we look back at our (surprisingly not terrible) 2024 market calls and make fresh predictions for 2025 (which will likely be very wrong). In this episode, we're embracing the humbling experience of market forecasting to prove to everyone (and ourselves) why market forecasting is a waste of time. You'll hear us: Review how Justin actually nailed...
Do You Really Need International Diversification? 10 Top Investors Debate 23.12.2024 57:06
In this episode of "Two Quants and a Financial Planner," we explore one of investing's most debated topics: international diversification. Through clips from 10 different investing experts, we examine whether U.S. investors truly need international exposure in their portfolios. Key topics include: What actually constitutes "international exposure" in today's interconnected markets Why U.S. stocks...
Practical Lessons from Andy Constan | Bridgewater, Macro Pillars and Navigating Deleveragings 17.12.2024 1:00:54
Join Matt Zeigler and Jack Forehand as they break down some of the most insightful frameworks from our interviews with macro thinker Andy Constan. Drawing from multiple conversations with Andy, they explore: Andy's experience at Bridgewater Associates and their fascinating approach to systematic investing The four pillars of macro analysis that help make sense of complex market environments A prac...
10 Great Investors Share Their Most Important Lesson 09.12.2024 58:06
We ask one question at the end of each of our episodes: Based on your experience in markets, if you could teach one lesson to your average investor, what would it be? In this episode, we discuss our favorite answers from our guests in 2024. Featuring insights from: Jim Paulsen on understanding your true impact as an investor Cliff Asness on the importance of looking at your portfolio less frequent...
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