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Two Ordinary Cops

The two ordinary cops are former Northern Territory Police Officers Remote Sergeant Ben Schultz and Detective Sergeant Damien Barbe. With over 25 years experience Ben and Damo share stories from their time in the job. Follow along through the laughter, anger and tears that come with the rigours of Policing Australia’s last frontier.

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True Crime

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Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 31 - Youth Crime 06.09.2024

Schultzy and Damo dive into the topic of youth crime from a police perspective, they aim to present a clear, fact-based analysis without the sensationalism often seen in the media or political discourse. Here's a more nuanced view of the situation

Episode 30 - Camaraderie 30.08.2024

Camaraderie is more essential than ever in today's world. To get work done efficiently, effectively, and positively, you need a team that collaborates well. But does a strong team lead to corruption? It all depends on the team you build—because a good team can also foster strong ethics. In this episode, Damo and Schultzy dive into these topics with their signature humor to keep things light.

Episode 29 - Police, Fitness and Wellbeing 23.08.2024

After getting some feedback, Damo and Schultzy discuss fitness, wellbeing, and managing night shifts in the police force. Although they may not be the top experts in these areas, they share insights from their own experiences and offer their perspectives on effective strategies for handling these challenges while working in law enforcement.

Episode 28 - Being Resilient and Defining Boundaries 16.08.2024

In this episode, Schultzy and Damo, having received some insightful feedback, delve into the crucial topic of resilience for police officers when dealing with verbal abuse. They also explore the importance of establishing respect within the community by balancing firmness with fairness and clearly defining boundaries.

Episode 27 - Rewarding Jobs 09.08.2024

Damo and Schultzy discuss some of the jobs in the police where they not only felt rewarded for their efforts but made a difference to people in difficult times. In and around this they discuss some of the feedback they have received and some of the topics that they will discuss in the future. This is mixed in with a bit of humour and laughs keeping up with their normal standard of conversation.

Episode 26 - Wieambilla Shooting 02.08.2024

In this episode Damo and Schultzy decided to talk about the Wieambilla Shooting that occurred in December 2022. Due to the current inquest the topic has been on their minds, leading them to discuss it in a manner that humanises the police and offers a different perspective on the incident.

Episode 25 - Alice Springs 26.07.2024

The Two Ordinary Cops engage in a conversation about the challenges Damo faced residing in Alice Springs and carrying out policing duties in the area. Amidst generational tensions and societal dysfunction, the news is consistently filled with troubling headlines, yet viable resolutions remain elusive. This is a behind the scenes view of what Alice Springs is real like.

Episode 24 - Behind the Lines of Undercover Policing. 19.07.2024

Schultzy and Damo explore the realm of undercover policing with insights from Jason Somerville, a former undercover operative in the Queensland Police. The anecdotes shared are captivating, ranging from moments of perceived imminent danger or exposure to more lighthearted and comical situations that Jason encountered during his undercover assignments.

Episode 23 - Sticky Situations 12.07.2024

Damo and Schutzy reflect on the various demanding scenarios they have faced in their careers while serving in remote regions of Australia. They emphasize the crucial role of mentorship provided by senior officers in their early days, guiding them in managing situations with minimal use of force. They highlight the necessity for police officers to adjust their policing approaches when operating in...

Episode 22 - Lethal Use Of Force 05.07.2024

Damo and Schultzy discuss the guidelines set forth in policy, procedure, and legislation that dictate when law enforcement officers are permitted to employ lethal force. They recount personal anecdotes of near encounters that could have warranted such action, shedding light on the complexities while navigating these high-stress scenarios.

Episode 21 - Funny Stories 3 - Good Ol' Grog 28.06.2024

Damo and Schultzy share amusing anecdotes during nights out, involving intoxicated individuals, such as men disrobing in front of female officers and women concealing items from police.

Episode 20 - The Bob Rennie Series - Part 4 21.06.2024

Retired Superintendent Robert Rennie AMP emphasised that he moved into the commissioned role in the police to maintain high morale among officers and addressing systemic challenges within the police force to enhance trust, effectiveness of law enforcement to serve the community well. The discussion revolves around both positive and negative experiences and the importance in recognising and resolvi...

Episode 19 - The Bob Rennie Series - Part 3 14.06.2024

Retired Superintendent Robert Rennie APM shares insights on the Jabiluka Mine protests in 1998. At that time, Bob supervised up to 52 police officers and coordinated the police actions during the protests. In this discussion, he addresses different types of protesters, ranging from sincere environmentalists to radical extremists.

Episode 18 - The Bob Rennie Series - Part 2 07.06.2024

Accompany the Two Ordinary Cops as they engage in a conversation with Retired Superintendent Robert Rennie APM, reminiscing about his experiences at the police academy during the early 1980s and reflecting on the unique challenges of law enforcement during that period. The dialogue delves into the strong sense of camaraderie within the police force, portraying it as a cohesive family unit that ope...

Episode 17 - The Bob Rennie Series - Part 1 31.05.2024

It is time to hear from some of the legends of the Northern Territory police force. In the initial segment Damo and Schultzy engage in a conversation with Retired Superintendent Robert Rennie APM, to gain insights into the early days of policing that preceded their own experiences. In this episode he will share anecdotes about his various roles within the police force, offering humorous and insigh...

Episode 16 - Being Resourceful Without Resources 24.05.2024

Schultzy and Damo delve into the challenges of conducting major operations, such as a yacht rescue and murder investigations, in remote areas with minimal resources, emphasising the pivotal role of strong community engagement as a cornerstone of success.

Episode 15 - Our worst jobs... 17.05.2024

Police will attend a high number of distressing jobs in their career and there are always some that are burned into your brain. In this episode Schultzy and Damo talk about some of the jobs, that not only affected them at the time, but continue to affect them years down the track.

Episode 14 - Funny Stories 2 10.05.2024

Today, Damo and Schultzy are regaling us with amusing anecdotes from their time on the job, ranging from thrilling car chases to unexpected encounters with pepper spray. Sit back, relax, and prepare to be entertained by their hilarious tales.

Episode 13 - Conducting Investigations 03.05.2024

Damo and Schultzy give you a brief overview of how police conduct investigations on a strategic level, before talking about one of their first investigations together as junior cops. Of course this comes with a few deviations and shoutouts to people who contacted us recently.

Episode 12 - ANZAC Day 26.04.2024

Schultzy and Damo talk about how important it is to remember ANZAC day along with some of the discussions they had with defence personnel. It includes some of the feedback they received and some ideas of what people would like to hear in future episodes.

Episode 11 - Police and Podcast 19.04.2024

In this episode, Schultzy and Damo chat about releasing the podcast along with some of the feedback they received. They discuss some of the reasons they left the police, along with some of the issues police face every day, both on and off the road. However there is always laughter to be had along the way.

Episode 10 - Domestic Violence 12.04.2024

Domestic Violence (DV) is a very heavy subject but it is one that needs to be discussed. In this episode Damo and Schultzy talk about some of the history of police dealing with DV and some of the difficulties police now face when investigating DV incidents.

Episode 9 - Leadership 05.04.2024

The two ordinary cops discuss the importance of leadership within policing on many different levels and within the community itself.

Episode 8 - Specialist Roles 05.04.2024

The two ordinary cops talk about the mental step up from GD's policing to the more complex criminal investigation side of the house. 

Episode 7 - Bush Policing 101 29.03.2024

Schultzy and Damo describe what it is like policing in the bush. Get some insight about lessons learned and what is the best approach when working in some of the most remote communities in Australia.

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