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Two Designers Walk Into a Bar
Pop culture inspires some serious fun. Join hosts Todd Coats and Elliot Strunk, two creatively curious pals living between the bookends of grand museums and dive bars, the sweet spot where highbrow and lowbrow become drinking buddies. They talk influential work and uncover stories of how the familiar became iconic. Think Behind the Music for the stuff we love. ----- Visit https://www.twodesignerswalkintoabar.com/ for images, links, episode extras and more. ----- Two Designers Walk Into a Bar is part of the Evergreen Podcasts network.
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Jul 1, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 62: Ant Farms vs. Sea Monkeys 22.11.2023 48:11
In this episode, we discuss two educational products that were found in the pages of comic books for, literally, decades. It’s Sea Monkeys versus the Ant Farm. Buckle up. We’re all about to learn a thing or two… - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the visual examples we discuss, additional links and more! https://www.twodesignerswalkintoabar.com/episodes/episode-62-ant-farm-vs-se...
Episode 61: Andy Warhol: When The Factory Meets Studio 54 08.11.2023 47:08
Andy Warhol once said, “The key of the success of Studio 54 is that it's a dictatorship at the door and a democracy on the dance floor.” We begin this episode with Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager on the evening of April 26, 1977 as they open the doors to Studio 54, smack-dab in the middle of the glitter and grime in and around Midtown Manhattan. We discuss Warhol moving from being the darling of aca...
Episode 60: Andy Warhol: Movies Emerge from the Underground - Part 2 25.10.2023 39:25
In this episode we continue with the second half of our conversation about Warhol’s anti-films. We talk about lonesome cowboys, sexploitation, screen tests, and how the Factory scene was ripped off for a much more mainstream Oscar-winning movie — which didn’t make Andy very happy. We then wrap-up discussing films influenced by his approach. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the...
Episode 59: Andy Warhol: Movies Emerge from the Underground - Part 1 11.10.2023 37:06
The Factory scene produced all sorts of art, including films. We start with Warhol’s anti-film Sleep and dive into underground movies from the period and The Factory’s influence on them. We then shift gears to discuss how that approach popped-up in later “low-fi” movies like John Waters’ Pink Flamingos. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the visual examples we discuss, additiona...
Episode 58: Andy Warhol: Album Covers Take a Walk on the Wild Side - Part 2 27.09.2023 36:11
Peel-away bananas. Working zippers. Andy Warhol elevated music album art to a new level. Building on our last episode, we talk about Andy’s influence on other "special" treatments of albums that—especially in our era of digital downloads—make having the real thing from bands like Bob Marley and The Pet Shop Boys worth the effort. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the visual exa...
Episode 57: Andy Warhol: Album Covers Take a Walk on the Wild Side - Part 1 13.09.2023 41:14
Beginning with the backstory of one of the most iconic albums of all time, 1967’s “The Velvet Underground and Nico,” we return to The Factory scene as it was becoming commercially successful—but no less of a sideshow—as musicians come calling for new ideas or simply hipster art cred. We also discuss the design work Warhol created for bands like the Rolling Stones and the idea of turning a disposab...
Bonus Episode: Nostalgia and Marketing: A Conversation with Kate Christensen 08.09.2023 54:24
Today we have a special guest we’ve welcomed into the bar. We reached out to Kate Christensen after reading an article she wrote for the website Marketing Brew about marketing and nostalgia. We thought “Marketing and nostalgia? Hey, that’s us!” Kate is currently on the faculty at Indiana University. She’s produced movies for Disney, TV shows for Sony, and is very aware of pop culture through both...
Episode 56: Andy Warhol: The Silver Wears Off The Factory - Part 2 30.08.2023 31:15
This episode wraps-up the chronicle of The Factory’s downward slide. Drella has made the scene at The Factory and there has been some fallout. A script entitled “Up Your Ass” led to Andy Warhol barely cheating death at the hands of its author, Valarie Solanas. She called the Factory dwellers the “Stupidstars” and Warhol “a vulture and a thief.” The resulting scars Andy had — both physical and emot...
Episode 55: Andy Warhol: The Silver Wears Off The Factory - Part 1 16.08.2023 25:11
This episode begins the chronicle of The Factory’s downward slide. If you work with and entertain people living on society’s fringes, things happen…some good, some not so good. Add a constant flow of amphetamines and acid and the not so good can take a deadly turn. During this time, Andy Warhol was easily the most famous artist in America and enjoyed being the messiah of cool, until all of that ch...
Episode 54: Andy Warhol: New York and Rise of The Silver Factory - Part 2 02.08.2023 28:33
We wrap-up the second of our two episodes by talking about just how high (pun intended) the Silver Factory could get. Powered by the social unrest brewing in the mid-1960s, this collection of junkies, drag queens and hangers-on led by the Oddball Oracle made some great work and also caused a lot of irritation in the art world. Andy couldn’t be stopped. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for sho...
Episode 53: Andy Warhol: New York and Rise of The Silver Factory - Part 1 19.07.2023 32:47
Episode 53: Andy Warhol: New York and Rise of The Silver Factory - Part 1 We begin with the first of two episodes talking about the rapid and unprecedented success of Andy Warhol’s Silver Factory. It was part studio, part party palace and part crash pad for tripping pop stars, street gurus and suicidal Superstars. It didn’t take long for Andy’s hangers-on and wanna-be this or thats to become house...
Episode 52: Andy Warhol: Andy Becomes the Center of Pop Life 05.07.2023 43:13
Easily New York’s most successful commercial illustrator, Ambitious Andy wanted to be accepted in the hoity-toity fine art world. Unfortunately, he found that would take a little time and the right moment. The explosion of consumerism set him up to be a household name. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the visual examples we discuss, additional links and more! https://www.twode...
Episode 51: Andy Warhol: The 1960s Scene and the Emergence of Pop 21.06.2023 39:06
We begin our fourth season with an introduction to the cultural chaos of the mid-1960s. As The Beats began to fade and the Hippies take center stage, changes were happening in both the U.S. and overseas that would set the stage for new forms of art and expression. Warhol found himself in the right place at the right time. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the visual examples we...
Episode 50: The Pepsi (Logo) Challenge 07.06.2023 31:59
Pepsi announced it’s moving forward by moving backwards (sort of), returning to more of a traditional look for their logo and cans. (Think black. It's a slimming color.) But as they kick their last logo to the curb, we go back in time to discuss how they became saddled with this burdensome brand look in the first place. We talk ovals, smiles, globes, magnetic fields and cosmic forces of the univer...
Episode 49: Listener Mail 24.05.2023 24:24
In this episode we take a step back from our typical subject matter to answer questions submitted by you, our listeners. We discuss meeting sports mascots, paying homage to a creative icon, using big words, MAD Magazine, how we come up with our episode topics and whether or not we’re secretly teachers masquerading as podcast hosts. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes, the visual e...
Episode 48 1/2: The Beat Era: Frank Sinatra and His Golden…Arm? 10.05.2023 46:13
Turns out we’re not quite ready to let The Beats go! Sticking with our topic of separating myth from reality, we wrap-up our dive into mainstream interpretations with a quick conversation about the movie “The Man with the Golden Arm” which centers on a jazz drummer played by none other than Frank Sinatra. The film’s soundtrack from Elmer Bernstein along with the Saul Bass-designed poster and openi...
Episode 48: The Beat Era: Beats, Beatniks and Myth vs. Reality 26.04.2023 1:01:08
For our final episode about The Beats, we touch on the TV debut of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis and the introduction of character Maynard G. Krebs. We jump into berets, bongos, sunglasses, sandals and the slang. Where did this popular notion – The Beatnik – come from? While some of it was rooted in reality, this caricature came from a combination of hangers-on and mainstream culture’s response t...
Episode 47: The Beat Era: Illustration and Artwork Styles with Jim Flora 12.04.2023 28:41
For our final illustration episode, we wrap-up our jazz album conversation by sharing the story and work of Jim Flora. His cartoonish style “betrayed a diabolic humor and uninhibited sense of outrageousness” that evolved over the years to go from borderline obscene to children’s books. We also name names of a couple contemporary artists directly influenced by Flora’s manic work and highlight his a...
Episode 46: The Beat Era: Illustration and Artwork Styles with S. Neil Fujita 29.03.2023 42:30
Building on our last episode, we continue talking illustrators and jazz albums by sharing the story of S. Neil Fujita. Jump in with us as we recap how pop culture arrived at a “look” for artifacts from the era of The Beats through the work of Fujita, another artist whose work influenced our cultural landscape and help explain why those jazz-themed Pinterest boards you follow look the way they do....
Episode 45: The Beat Era: Illustration and Artwork Styles with David Stone Martin 15.03.2023 35:55
Records have always featured mood-setting illustrations in addition to more standard photographs. In this episode we share the story of the fun and idiosyncratic illustrator David Stone Martin finding jazz music. We then shift into discussing how pop culture arrived at a “look” for artifacts from the era of The Beats being influenced by the atomic age, the space race and jazz, and what that meant...
Episode 44 1/2: The Beat Era: Andy Warhol and Jazz Albums (Bonus!) 01.03.2023 14:30
Any conversation about art will involve Andy Warhol sooner or later. Today we jump in and discuss album illustration from early in his career for Count Basie, a group called Trombone By Three and a duet with Thelonious Monk and Sonny Rollins. We also discuss the phenomenon of different layouts for album issues and reissues, especially in jazz. - - - - - Visit our full episode page for show notes,...
Episode 44: The Beat Era: John Hermansader and Two Iconic Jazz Album Designs 15.02.2023 37:20
The jazz label Blue Note Records existed before Reid Miles was hired, so we talk about the guy who set the stage for him: John Hermansader. Once we’ve set the scene, we jaw about a couple of our favorite albums from artists Horace Parlan and Jackie McLean. Who was in charge of designing them? Why did they make the creative choices they did? And, perhaps most importantly, does each album’s look do...
Episode 43: The Beat Era: The Origins of the Blue Note Records “Look” 01.02.2023 42:31
This episode begins with the founding of iconic Blue Note Records. Albums from the golden age of jazz—the same ones The Beats listened to—have a distinct look and feel, largely thanks to a single label. We drop into the coffee houses, jazz clubs and record label offices of New York to talk about the late-night, rebellious music people were listening to and some of the personalities behind that wor...
Episode 42: The Beat Era: Pollock’s Drips and How They Changed the Art World 18.01.2023 37:45
Our conversation about The Beats continues by revisiting when Jackson Pollock revolutionized art in America and how the media brought that revolution to Middle America. We discuss different spots in the U.S. where The Beats found themselves and name some of their wider influences including the abstract expressionist painters and jazz musicians they shared creative and social spaces with. - - - - -...
Episode 41: The Beat Era: Kerouac’s On the Road and the Movement It Started 04.01.2023 46:15
We start our collection of episodes about The Beat era with the release of Jack Kerouac’s iconic book On the Road in 1957. We discuss who The Beats were beyond Kerouac (Ginsberg, Burroughs and more), the conformity and consumerism they were questioning and rebelling against, and their impact on pop culture for future generations (including the one you’re in). - - - - - Visit our full episode page...
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