Destination Think
Travel Beyond
The Travel Beyond podcast brings you the travel industry’s most exciting innovations that address the greatest challenges facing communities and the planet. We partner with travel destinations and changemakers working toward a regenerative future where all people can flourish, and that means transforming the travel industry to respect the needs of residents, visitors, and the environment. At Destination Think, we believe travel can make the world a better place, but it must do so without environmental, economic and social harm. In the travel industry, and as travellers, we need to pair our w...
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Jan 22, 2026
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Lighthouses showing the way to true sustainability – Copenhagen E3 14.05.2024 50:53
The solutions to the world's problems already exist, says architect Anders Lendager. This episode, Anders tells us about his journey towards sustainable architecture, emphasizing the need for transformative "lighthouse" projects that can show the way forward. Through examples of his designs like Upcycle House and Resource Rows, he shows that sustainable solutions provide an economic advantage. We...
The two biggest jobs ahead for travel destinations – Copenhagen E2 07.05.2024 49:10
Travel destinations can gather support to lead large-scale sustainability actions, says Wonderful Copenhagen CEO Mikkel Aarø-Hansen. He shares how his destination management organization, in coalition with others, influenced the cruise industry to pollute less. Mikkel also tells us about the two biggest jobs ahead for sustainability-minded destinations and their leaders. Hosted on Acast. See acast...
Don’t copy, be inspired: Learning from Copenhagen’s longest-serving mayor – Copenhagen E1 30.04.2024 36:34
“Don’t copy, be inspired.” What’s it like to have a long-term vision and then see it come true? We get into it with Jens Kramer Mikkelsen, Copenhagen’s longest-serving mayor. From 1989 to 2004, Jens led the city by assembling a broad coalition of support for major infrastructure projects that have helped make Copenhagen the vibrant global capital it is today. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy...
Part 2: Teaching visitors the value of restoration – Načiks (Tofino) E6 23.04.2024 31:52
How can travellers make a positive impact when they visit and take home some sustainable values? Two leaders from local NGOs in Načiks (Tofino) tell us about their organizations’ long-term restoration projects, relationships with local First Nations, and how they are trying to encourage a culture of conservation among visitors. This is a two-part episode featuring Emily Fulton of Redd Fish Restora...
Part 1: Teaching visitors the value of restoration – Načiks (Tofino) E6 16.04.2024 35:01
How can travellers make a positive impact when they visit and take home sustainable values? Two leaders from local NGOs in Načiks (Tofino) tell us about their organizations’ long-term restoration projects, relationships with local First Nations, and how they are trying to encourage a culture of conservation among visitors. This is a two-part episode featuring Emily Fulton of Redd Fish Restoration...
The allyship journey: How tourism businesses are collaborating toward a better future – Načiks (Tofino) E5 09.04.2024 37:16
How to be an ally to First Nations? Within Tofino’s tourism industry, one way is to pledge your business to the Tribal Parks Allies program. The program provides direct benefits, financial and otherwise, to the Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation, where the town is located. Can this model of settler-Indigenous allyship spread to other places? We speak with Julian Hockin-Grant to learn about how this projec...
Why wilderness is a myth: Tribal Parks Guardians and the language of respect – Načiks (Tofino) E4 02.04.2024 52:24
The travel industry has been selling “wilderness” adventures for a long time. But does wilderness really exist? This episode we learn from two Tla-o-qui-aht leaders about their culture’s care for the environment, why many Indigenous languages have no word for wilderness, and how Indigenous knowledge can unlock new ways of practicing respectful travel. We also learn about the ʔiisaak Pledge and how...
Tribal Park Allies: Forming a coalition to steward the environment – Načiks (Tofino) E3 26.03.2024 38:42
In 1984, a logging blockade led to the creation of the first Tribal Park near Tofino, British Columbia. Four decades later, the Tribal Parks Allies program is building a coalition of support for restoration among members of the tourism industry. The project brings in reliable funding for Indigenous-led sustainable projects and cultural revitalization. Saya Masso, Lands and Resource Director at Tla...
Stewardship solutions from Ahousaht First Nation – Načiks (Tofino) E2 19.03.2024 44:21
A social enterprise and a stewardship fee from tourism businesses are two ways Ahousaht First Nation is regaining the ability to control its tourism destiny. Head Hereditary Chief Hasheukumiss (Richard George) and Hereditary Chief ?ikaatius (Tyson Atleo) are co-owners of Ahous Adventures on behalf of the Nation. They describe these solutions and others they’re using to care for nature, lift up the...
“This beautiful place was fought for.” – Načiks (Tofino) E1 12.03.2024 57:47
This season of Travel Beyond shows a way forward for every place threatened by climate risks or grappling with what it means to host visitors on Indigenous territory. Welcome to Načiks (Tofino). During 2023’s bustling summer, the only route in and out of Tofino, British Columbia was blocked by wildfires for 17 days. Brad Parsell of Tourism Tofino shares how the community responded and why every po...
Corporate sustainability has failed: Here’s a better lever for change 05.03.2024 16:27
Auden Schendler is a decades-long corporate sustainability veteran and climate leader with Aspen Skiing Company. He shares what’s worked, what hasn’t, and why truly effective climate action in business comes from wielding power and influence to drive systemic change. Read Aspen One’s 2024 sustainability report called “25 Years of Questions”: https://www.aspensnowmass.com/discover/sustainabil...
Bhutan’s 50-year quest for sustainable visitation – Replay and update 27.02.2024 33:28
Since 2022, Bhutan’s Sustainable Development Fee has gone through some dramatic changes, rising from $65 to $200 per day before falling to $100 with allowances for longer stays. Why? As international travel grows, the country continues its search for the right harmony between visitors, residents, and the environment, which means making sure the Bhutanese public benefits from the wealth tourism can...
Why sustainability includes culture, language, and land – Cariboo Chilcotin Coast E3 20.02.2024 32:02
Travellers are always looking for connection, says Sunrise When the Salmon Come (Cheryl Chapman). Cheryl works with Indigenous Tourism BC to make that connection happen, assisting Indigenous communities and entrepreneurs in sharing their living culture with visitors. She openly shares some of the challenges of telling the truth about colonialism’s impacts on First Nations, and tells us how she wea...
Celebrating rural innovations and combating “impact fatigue” – Cariboo Chilcotin Coast E2 13.02.2024 21:29
In 2017 came the wildfires. In 2020, the pandemic. In a time of dramatic changes and climate risks, it’s easy to see why this region might be feeling a little disaster fatigue. But Cariboo Chilcotin Coast Tourism Association is working to support the tourism industry as operators share successes, deliver experiences, and plan for the future. CEO Amy Thacker describes the role her organization is f...
Truth and visitation: How exposing painful histories through travel can bring healing – Cariboo Chilcotin Coast E1 06.02.2024 22:00
Can travel lead to truth and reconciliation? Mike Retasket, former five-term Chief of Bonaparte First Nation in British Columbia, describes how he shares the dark aspects of history with travellers, and how that storytelling can lead to healing. He’s enthusiastic about the opportunities tourism can bring to Indigenous communities, and he shares his unusual journey into the travel industry. H...
Uplifting experiences: Ziptrek Ecotours shares its carbon-accounting journey – Queenstown Lakes Solutions E2 30.01.2024 22:39
Hop on the gondola – here’s another tourism operator leading the way to carbon zero in Queenstown Lakes. Trent Yeo tells us about building a business in harmony with his values for sustainability and community. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The net-positive-energy lodge bringing Queenstown Lakes toward carbon zero – Queenstown Lakes Solutions E1 23.01.2024 35:28
What do sustainable solutions in travel really look like? We visit The Headwaters Eco Lodge at Camp Glenorchy, where Rodney tours through a whole host of climate-friendly operations that are leading the way to a decarbonized visitor economy in Queenstown Lakes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Conversations the travel industry isn’t having yet | Europe’s Travel Leaders E8 16.01.2024 39:30
Which conversations are we avoiding in the travel industry? Destination managers and travel industry leaders are under increasing public pressure to follow up their sustainable words with action, says today’s guest, Signe Jungersted. Signe worked on The End of Tourism As We Know It strategy as Director of Development at Wonderful Copenhagen. She continues to lead destinations and communities throu...
Changemakers live here: Lessons from 3 more places that inspired us this year 12.12.2023 41:47
Noosa’s residents and council are teaming up, Alaska’s bursting with new energy, and tourism on Fogo Island has a nutritious impact. Destination Think’s Climate Strategist Tyler Robinson joins co-producers Sara Raymond de Booy and David Archer to appreciate some fine examples of leadership and action in the travel industry. All the green energy is warming our hearts and sparking our imaginations....
The advantage and responsibility of being first – Europe’s Travel Leaders E7 05.12.2023 23:17
Copenhagen is often thought of as the greenest city in the world. But they didn’t earn that title by accident. We sit down with the CEO at Wonderful Copenhagen, Mikkel Aarø-Hansen, to learn about his approach to making change and his inspiring advice for leaders hoping to do the same. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Green waves of change: Lessons from Valencia | Europe’s Travel Leaders E6 28.11.2023 15:20
97% of Valencia’s inhabitants live within 300 metres of green urban areas and it’s set to be named 2024’s Green Capital by the European Commission. A combination of brilliant data gathering, initiatives to improve liveability, and policies supporting Sustainability are making a huge positive impact on residents and visitors alike. We chat with Visit Valencia’s Miguel Angel Perez Alba to learn more...
Building alliances, driving EVs, and changing mindsets in Oslo – Europe's Travel Leaders E5 21.11.2023 19:19
Carbon Neutral by 2030: that’s what Oslo is tirelessly working toward. From a harbour that’s clean enough to swim in for the first time in years through to a huge uptake in EV adoption, Norway is already seeing the benefits of thinking long-term. In this chat with Anne-Signe Fagereng from Visit Oslo, we learn about how this progress is being made within tourism specifically, and the role marketing...
Glasgow: the ongoing impact of COP26 - Europe's Travel Leaders E5 14.11.2023 15:27
Glasgow has always been a city driven by innovation, and its ambition led it to be selected for hosting COP26 back in 2021. In two years, the legacy of the massive global event can still be felt in the city. Aileen Crawford sits down with us to discuss how and why Glasgow and its citizens are driving change forward. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Canada’s most northern greenhouse: Innovations bringing Inuvik into balance | Inuvik E4 07.11.2023 40:43
Inuvik residents are making sustainable practices happen as they adapt to a changing climate in the Arctic. We learn about innovations in agriculture, home heating, visitor experiences, and North America's most northern apple trees. With thanks to the Town of Inuvik for sponsoring this season. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Visiting climate scientists talk travel and the North | Invuik E3 02.11.2023 39:09
Inuvik is a northern gathering point for climate scientists. Two of them share their perspectives on, travel, the changing climate, and communicating with the public. With thanks to the Town of Inuvik for sponsoring this season. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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