Jethro Jones
Transformative Principal
Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders like Bill Daggett, Rick Wormeli, Todd Whitaker and even people outside the education like Seth Godin, JeVon McCormick, Liz Wiseman, and more.
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Jethro Jones
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Oct 11, 2026
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Episodes
Unleash Aliveness with Alisha De Lorenzo 19.04.2026 39:26
In this episode, Mike sits down with Alisha DeLorenzo, educator and consultant from New Jersey, to explore her powerful framework of "Unleash Aliveness." Alisha shares how a deeply personal encounter with loss sparked her mission to help schools move from feeling like a "zombie apocalypse" to places of genuine energy and engagement. Key Takeaways: Aliveness is created when people feel significant...
Better Together with Derek Cantrell 12.04.2026 43:14
Derek Cantrell, principal of Allegheny High School in Virginia, shares how he led the consolidation of two rival high schools after 40+ years of failed merger attempts. As the final principal of Covington High School, Derek navigated the emotional journey of closing one school while building excitement for a unified future. Key insights: The power of intentionality — Communication roadmaps, mingle...
The Science of Kindness with Dr. Chris Culver 05.04.2026 33:06
Dr. Chris Culver, founder of Orange Sparrow, shares his journey from being bullied as a student to becoming an advocate for the science of kindness in education. After working in toxic school environments that led him to call an employee assistance helpline, Chris left traditional K-12 education to pursue a mission of making kindness go viral. Key takeaways: Kindness isn't just "kindergarten kindn...
Instructional Coherence with Dr. Gene Kerns 29.03.2026 25:56
Gene Kerns, Vice President and Chief Academic Officer at Renaissance Learning, joins the show to discuss instructional coherence—a trending concept in education that asks whether all the programs, assessments, and interventions schools purchase actually work together as a system. Notes: - Instructional Coherence. - Connecting in appropriate ways. - How do you know if there is instructional coheren...
Executive Functions for Every K-3 Classroom with Mitch Weathers & Sarah Oberle 22.03.2026 54:56
In this episode, first grade teacher Sarah Oberle and Organized Binder creator Mitch Weathers discuss their new book, Executive Functions for Every K-3 Classroom . They explain how core executive functions—working memory, inhibition, and cognitive flexibility—develop between ages 4-8 and can't be trained like skills. Instead, teachers should design environments that preserve students' limited cogn...
How to Lead Change Without Leaving Your Team Behind with Dr. Kristilynn Turney 15.03.2026 32:51
In this episode, Mike Caldwell sits down with Dr. Kristilynn Turney, an educational consultant, speaker, and former school principal with 27 years in education. Kristilynn shares her journey from being labeled a "problem child" for talking too much to becoming the first Black principal of two predominantly white suburban schools in the Cincinnati area. Key topics include: The weight and responsibi...
Supporting School Leaders Through the Daily Grind with Marie Bordeleau 08.03.2026 37:14
In this episode, host Mike Caldwell sits down with Dr. Marie Bordeleau, a veteran Catholic and public school leader with over 25 years of experience, to discuss the realities of school leadership. Marie shares insights from her upcoming book, The Dust and the Glory , exploring how principals can navigate criticism, avoid burnout, and find joy in the chaos. From the importance of staying "in the ar...
The 3 Keys to Leading Every Human with Nick Pretasky 01.03.2026 46:18
In this episode, Nick Pretasky draws on his experience as an Alaskan backcountry guide to share three essentials for leadership: Bond , Mastery , and Belief . He explains why leaders fail when they forget they're leading humans—and why every leader needs a coach. The episode closes with a powerful story about a student who carried a teacher's handwritten note in his pocket for months, reminding us...
Becoming an Innovative Leader with Brad Gustafson 22.02.2026 31:25
In this episode from the Transformative Leadership Summit vault, host Jethro Jones interviews Brad Gustafson, about becoming an innovative leader in education. Brad emphasizes that innovation starts with identifying your "why" - his is creating a relevant, connected learning environment where students are excited to come to school. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL . IXL’s comprehensive teaching...
Jethro's Dissertation - How Principals who Use AI for Innovation Create Cognitive Equity 15.02.2026 1:08:48
In this special episode, Jethro Jones defends his doctoral dissertation on how school principals can use AI for innovation rather than just efficiency. The research challenges the common "save time" narrative around AI in education and introduces the concept of "cognitive equity" - using AI to expand capabilities and solve problems that weren't previously possible. Through a full-day workshop with...
A New Era of Transformative Principal with Mike Caldwell 08.02.2026 32:46
In this special handoff episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones announces he's passing the podcast to Mike Caldwell, founder of LinkedLeaders, as Jethro transitions to his new role as Director of Operations at Life Lab, a character education company creating video curriculum for middle and high schools—a move that aligns perfectly with his doctorate in character education, which he'...
Building Accountability Through Key Responsibility Areas with Will Parker 01.02.2026 30:49
In this vault episode from the Transformative Leadership Summit, host Jethro Jones interviews Will Parker, a high school principal from northeastern Oklahoma, about implementing KRAs (Key Responsibility Areas) in schools. Will shares how he adapted Dave Ramsey's organizational management concept to create clarity and accountability for all staff members—from secretaries and counselors to administr...
Learning Through Video Games at Alpha School with Benny 26.01.2026 31:18
15:19.5 In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Benny, a 16-year-old sophomore at Alpha School in Austin. Benny discusses his Alpha X project—a YouTube channel explaining how video games are educational. The conversation explores Alpha School's innovative model, which combines AI-based academics in the morning with passion-driven project work in the afternoon. Ben...
The Power of Principal Self-Efficacy with Stan Koterba 18.01.2026 27:29
In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones speaks with Stan Koterba, an Ohio principal working on his doctorate in educational leadership. Stan shares his powerful personal journey of battling leukemia during his doctoral program and how that experience shaped his dissertation focus on principal self-efficacy—the belief that positive thinking and visualization directly impact l...
Reject the Premise, Part 8 with Danny Bauer 11.01.2026 35:16
In this episode of Reject the Premise, Jethro and Danny challenge three common misconceptions in educational leadership. They argue that leadership development isn't a luxury but a necessity, emphasizing that top performers in every field invest in coaching and that having a coach demonstrates maturity rather than inadequacy. They reject the notion that leadership must be lonely, encouraging leade...
Supporting Students and Families with ADHD with Mike Goldstein 04.01.2026 38:14
In this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Mike Goldstein, co-founder of Reset Teen Coaching and author of "I'll Do It Later." They discuss the challenges teens face with executive function, especially those with ADHD, and the trial-and-error nature of finding strategies that work. The conversation covers the limitations of one-size-fits-all approaches in education, the importance of supporting stud...
The Jethro 2025 Episode 28.12.2025 1:01:19
In this special "reverse interview" episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones is interviewed by Mike Caldwell. Jethro reflects on his journey as a podcaster, the evolution of his career, and his philosophy on education, innovation, and personal growth. The conversation covers the origins of the podcast, lessons learned from hundreds of interviews, the role of AI in education, and Jeth...
Run the School Before It Runs You with Rich Czyz 21.12.2025 23:07
In this episode, Jethro Jones sits down with Rich Czyz, principal of Yardville Elementary and author of "Autopilot: Practical Productivity for School Leaders." They dive into actionable strategies for school leaders to reclaim their time—starting with time audits, the art of elimination, and the power of delegation. Rich shares how empowering students with real leadership roles, like running morni...
Reject the Premise, Part 6 with Danny Bauer 14.12.2025 36:38
In this episode, Jethro Jones and Danny Bauer continue their "Reject the Premise" series, challenging common assumptions in education. They discuss the importance of schools partnering with parents, emphasizing that parents are the primary educators and schools should serve as supportive partners. The conversation also rejects the idea that test scores are the sole measure of success, advocating i...
Building Stronger, More Connected School Communities with Ben Downey 07.12.2025 24:22
Jethro Jones interviews Ben Downey, founder of Big Nest, about the vital role and challenges of parent teacher groups (PTAs/PTGs) in schools. They discuss how these groups are essential for building strong school communities but often face issues with organization, communication, and fundraising. Ben explains how his experience managing a local parent group inspired him to create Big Nest—a platfo...
Helping Educators Grow Through Technology and Community with Mike Caldwell 30.11.2025 26:52
Host Jethro Jones talks with Mike Caldwell, founder of LinkedLeaders , about building a platform that connects school leaders with mentors and peers for real-time support. They discuss the challenges of school leadership, the value of personalized coaching, and how technology and community can help educators grow. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL . IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning pla...
AI Exposed the Lie of Schools, Let's Focus on Learning Again 23.11.2025 57:01
Welcome to Transformative Principal! In this thought-provoking solo episode, host Jethro Jones explores how artificial intelligence has revealed the weaknesses in our current education system—and why it’s time to refocus on real learning. Episode Highlights: Jethro shares candid reflections from his AI Leader Office Hours, challenging the status quo in education. He explains how schools have been...
How to Get a Wealthy Brain Even If You’re Not with Michael Toth 16.11.2025 54:10
The great importance of redesigning Tier 1 instruction that ensures deeper learning for all students. The research shows huge benefits to students and their teachers including higher achievement, closure of gaps among all reporting categories of students, increased attendance, lower misbehavior, and increased teacher satisfaction and retention. Michael was last on the podcast with me in 2022, talk...
Designing Different with Adrian Ireland 09.11.2025 50:10
In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Adrian Ireland, an international educator, systems thinker, and author of "Designing Different." Together, they explore the challenges and opportunities in reimagining the architecture of learning within schools. The conversation delves into why educational reform often fails when it focuses on incremental improvements rathe...
Building Futures: Transition Services and Real-Life Skills with Joel Lavin 02.11.2025 29:54
In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Joel Lavin, an equity and inclusion administrator in Eugene, Oregon, with 25 years of experience in public education. Joel shares insights into his work supporting high school students with disabilities, focusing on transition services that help students move from school to adulthood. The conversation covers the importance o...
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