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Toot or Boot
Toot or Boot brings you unfiltered conversations about work — straight from HR insiders who aren’t afraid to tell the truth. With a rotating crew of progressive HR leaders, we break down the latest news and trends to show what’s really happening and why it matters for your job. Whether you’re in HR or just trying to survive your 9-to-5, expect real talk, practical advice, and the occasional laugh to get you through the chaos of modern work. To find out more, check out tootorboot.com
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Mar 10, 2026
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Anticipated employment law changes, soft quitting, and the new deputy labor secretary 04.02.2025 35:02
This week we kick it off with some anticipated employment law changes that could impact your workplaces. We'll unpack 5 laws expected to impact businesses in 2025, from pay transparency mandates to revamped contractor rules. We'll also analyze key leadership changes in Washington, as we discuss Keith Sonderling's appointment as deputy labor secretary. Plus, we'll explore the latest of buzzphrases,...
HR preps for new administration, Apple pushes back on anti-DEI, and reverse discrimination lawsuits 28.01.2025 23:48
Get ready for your HR news fix! This week we're diving into three timely stories: guidance on how to approach the administration change, Apple's response defending their DEI initiatives against shareholder pushback, and a potential emerging trend of "reverse discrimination" lawsuits. Join us as we unpack what these developments mean for workplaces and HR professionals, share our takes on the lates...
2025 HR Predictions: Toot-worthy or Boot-worthy? 21.01.2025 50:25
In this week's special episode, your host Stacey Nordwall joins the Toot or Boot hot seat with Erica Spitale and Rebecca Taylor, and producer Lexi comes out from behind the scenes for a rapid-fire edition of Toot or Boot, all about 2025 HR predictions. Lexi reviewed 15 different predictions sources (that’s over 75 predictions) which were organized into five different themes: AI, Remote/Hybrid Wor...
All things DEI with Vijay and Tara 14.01.2025 54:11
What do we mean when we say DEI? Are the companies rolling back their DEI programs making substantive changes? And what is DEI going to look like under the new administration? In this episode of Toot or Boot, we welcome back guests Vijay Pendakur and Tara Turk-Haynes for an in-depth discussion on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) in the workplace. We discuss three articles, including Vijay's...
Candidates love-bombed and ghosted, the return of bro culture, and volunteering as a wellbeing program 07.01.2025 31:09
In this episode, we explore the turbulent landscape of modern workplaces, starting with Greenhouse's survey revealing that over half of job seekers experience ghosting or "love-bombing" during the hiring process—creating frustration and mistrust in organizations. What’s driving these behaviors, and how can HR professionals and hiring managers do better? Next, we delve into the lawsuit against Clou...
The Golden Toots and Coal-filled Boots of 2024 17.12.2024 42:09
2024 was a challenging year. We saw the implementation of six-day workweeks, so many layoffs, return-to-office (RTO) mandates, and DEI rollbacks. SHRM removed the E from DEI and Silicon Valley CEOs and VCs seemed to want a return to days of HR past (or no HR at all. We also had some progress with parental leave policies, new prenatal care protections, and much-needed conversations around the reali...
Elon to X remote work, RTOs as retaliation, and what employees really value 09.12.2024 29:50
In this episode, we dive into Elon Musk's and Vivek Ramaswamy's controversial task force, cheekily named the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). Their mission? To slash federal workforce numbers by targeting remote and hybrid work—impacting up to a million federal employees. We unpack the implications, including potential productivity myths and disproportionate impacts on marginalized grou...
Managers' toxic positivity, the legacy of Steve Jobs' leadership style, and a 2025 quitting spree? 03.12.2024 31:25
This week I'm joined by Vijay Pendakur, an author and HR advisor and consultant, to dive into toxic positivity, toxic leadership and more. First, we chat about managers glossing over bad news, creating an atmosphere of toxic positivity, and losing employee trust. Next, we talk about the leadership style of Steve Jobs, and how many too often misattribute his bullying behaviors for good leadership....
Employee wellbeing and trust in leadership declines, and Meta fires staff over meal vouchers 25.11.2024 26:49
Lindsey Caplan joins us again to discuss the stats showing that fewer than one in three employees trust their senior leaders. Next we talk about the employees fired by Meta for misusing their meal credits and what it means about org culture, trust, and how we write and implement our policies. Then, we dig into the stats that a record-low percentage of employees feel genuinely cared for by their em...
The Trouble with SHRM 19.11.2024 52:48
On this week's episode, we're doing something a little different. I invited Morgan Williams, Tracie Sponenberg, and Sarika Lamont to go in-depth on one topic - SHRM. SHRM has been the talk of HR news a lot over the past year - they dropped the E from DEI, are facing a lawsuit from a former employee who is alleging discrimination and retaliation, and most recently the CEO was added to a shortlist t...
Polyworking, AI surveillance of workers, and why HR is getting tougher 14.11.2024 24:48
In this episode, we talk about a new HR buzz word “polyworking” – juggling multiple jobs to make ends meet. But is it just hustle and grind culture 2.0? Then, we explore recent moves by the CFPB to extend consumer protection into employment data and cautioning businesses about surveiling employees. Finally, we revisit the debate on whether HR is truly “miserable” and talk more about how HR experie...
Workday wellness check, supercommutes, and Dell's last minute RTO 22.10.2024 34:42
Is the supercommute making a comeback? In this week’s episode, Cassidy Edwards joins as we dive into the story of a man who *loves* his 7-hour daily trek. We also unpack the chaos caused by Dell's sudden return-to-office (RTO) mandate, and explore why HR needs to rethink how they roll out major changes, because lives don’t flip with the stroke of an RTO mandate. Last, we chat about how Workday's d...
The HR Leadership exodus, flat hierarchies and the 25-year high of EEOC disability discrimination charges 08.10.2024 23:55
Are we on the verge of losing key HR leaders due to burnout and lack of strategic support? Tara Turk-Haynes, founder of Equity Activations, joins us to discuss the possible HR leadership exodus along with the EEOC’s 25-year high in disability discrimination charges and how flat hierarchies may be keeping women from applying. Plus, we explore what it all means for DEI programs as middle management...
Amazon's RTO, more tech layoffs, and the myth of in-office culture 01.10.2024 31:41
This week on Toot or Boot, Tara Turk-Haynes, founder of Equity Activations, joins us to break down Amazon's RTO mandate and the myth of in-office culture-building. Then we dive into the latest tech layoffs—is it the economy, real estate, or the upcoming election driving them? And we ask: Does simply being in the same office foster real collaboration and culture? Get ready for a wild ride! Connect...
Gen Z's sick days, the meeting industrial complex, and centering employees 24.09.2024 21:17
We dive into the "meeting industrial complex" and whether our work culture has really adapted to remote and hybrid models. Join Noah Warder, VP of People and Culture at Accent Inns, and me as we discuss how to reclaim focus time, explore Gen Z’s impact on sick days and discuss whether HR has swung too far in favor of employees. Connect with Noah on LinkedIn. Articles Gen Z is redefining sick days...
Founder mode, right-to-disconnect, and social activism in orgs 17.09.2024 25:01
Noah Warder, VP of People and Culture at Accent Inns, joins to talk about founder mode and what it gets wrong. We also dive into the debate around right-to-disconnect laws. Are they necessary protections, or do they create unnecessary urgency? Plus, we explore how organizations can weave social activism into their governance. Don’t miss it! Connect with Noah on LinkedInArticles: Why Silicon Valley...
Messy in Texas - overtime laws, noncompetes and The Great Detachment 10.09.2024 19:22
Morgan Williams, CEO and co-founder of PeakHR, joins me to break down messy Texas court rulings on noncompetes and overtime laws, and unpack this new HR trend called "The Great Detachment." Buckle up—this one's a wild ride! Connect with Morgan on LinkedInFollow PeakHR on LinkedInArticles: Federal judge strikes down FTC rule banning noncompete agreements State employees in Texas not subject to over...
DEI rollbacks and the politics of Silicon Valley VCs 03.09.2024 13:29
Morgan Williams, CEO and co-founder of PeakHR, joins me to explore the latest round of companies announcing they're dropping or scaling back their DEI initiatives. And we connect those dots to the closing of Women Who Code, Girls in Tech, and the VCs of Silicon Valley who are putting their support behind Republican politicians. Connect with Morgan on LinkedInFollow PeakHR on LinkedInArticles: Har...
The gig economy, RTOs, and feedback - do they adversely impact women? 27.08.2024 17:24
Welcome to another Tootsday! This week Sheila Krueger of The Benefits Bungalow, joins me to dive into the latest HR news: Are women struggling to join the gig economy because they worry about sacrificing benefits? And are return-to-office mandates driving away female talent? We also chat about the latest Textio report that found high performers are getting the worst feedback. Plus, we explore why...
Revenge of the HR Trends 20.08.2024 27:24
This week Cassandra Babilya and I break down some of the latest HR buzzwords. Is "Hushed Hybrid" just another overhyped term and is it a case of disempowered managers? And do leaders really care about employee engagement? Then we've got the Great Resignation 2.0—Cassandra calls BS on this one—and the bizarre rise of Employee Nesting. Are employees doomed whether they job-hop or stay put? Tune in f...
Is HR Miserable? And the death of summer Fridays 13.08.2024 18:43
Are Summer Fridays dead because of remote work? Sheila Krueger of the Benefits Bungalo joins me to break down this and more. We start off by talking about The New York Times piece, “So, Human Resources Is Making You Miserable?”—and the heated discussions it’s sparked. Plus, we dive into the Honeywell controversy: firing an employee for refusing mandatory DEI training. Tune in for all the drama! Fo...
A 6 day work week, the broken rung, and Citi's paid parental leave 06.08.2024 17:57
On this week's Toot or Boot, Cassandra Babilya and I dive into Greece's befuddling decision to introduce a 6-day workweek. Plus, what is the "broken rung" and is it really what’s holding women back in their careers? And Citi steps up by boosting paid parental leave to match the competition. Join us as we break it all down! Follow Cassandra Babilya cassandrababilya.com You Got This journal https://...
Is Gen Z hard to work with? And what are Gen Z and Gen X's retirements looking like? 30.07.2024 20:08
On this week’s *Toot or Boot*, we’re diving into generational workplace dynamics! Kim Rohrer joins the show to talk about if Gen Z really is the hardest to work with, or is it just a myth? We also explore how Gen X is faring in the 401k experiment and the surprising trend of Gen Z maxing out their retirement savings. Join us for the generational deep dive you didn’t know you needed! Follow Kim Roh...
Do careers need a higher purpose? And what letting people get away with transforms your culture 23.07.2024 10:05
Steven Huang joins me to break down Rippling’s controversial move to ban ex-employees at competitors from tender offer stock sales. Plus, does your career *really* need a higher purpose? We also chat about how focusing on what employees get away with can actually transform workplace culture. Buckle up for a lively discussion! Follow Steven on LinkedInArticles: Your Career Doesn’t Need to Have a Pu...
The rise of AI "workers" and MEI 16.07.2024 7:20
Steven Huang joins and we cover Lattice’s bold (and quickly reversed) move to create employment records for AI workers, and the rise of MEI as SHRM drops “Equity” from DEI. Don’t miss this action-packed episode! Follow Steven on LinkedInArticles:Elon Musk and other DEI critics are latching on to MEI
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