John Mihaljevic and Elliot Turner

This Week in Intelligent Investing

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This Week in Intelligent Investing examines timely and timeless investment topics to help you become a better investor. Enjoy authentic, unscripted discussion. The podcast is brought to you exclusively by MOI Global, the research-driven membership organization of intelligent investors. Your hosts are Elliot Turner, Chief Investment Officer of RGA Investment Advisors, and John Mihaljevic, Chairman of MOI Global.

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John Mihaljevic and Elliot Turner

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May 13, 2026

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Episodes

Michael Mauboussin‘s Expectations Investing | The Right Amount of Lying 12.12.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the new edition of Michael Mauboussin's book, Expectations Investing; and (ii) the "right" amount of lying -- prompted by Rohit Krishnan's essay, "How Much Should You Lie?" Enjoy the conversation!   The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by host...

The Future of Brands and Brand Value | Leadership Change at Twitter 05.12.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the future of brands, and how to think about brand value; and (ii) leadership change at Twitter, with Parag Agrawal becoming CEO. Enjoy the conversation!   The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this sho...

Challenges of Forecasting in Business and Investing | Zillow‘s Retreat From iBuying 21.11.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the challenges of forecasting, faced by businesses and investors alike; and (ii) thoughts on Zillow's retreat from ibuying. Enjoy the conversation!   The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor...

GE and the Deconglomeration Push | Kasparov Principle as Applied to Investing 14.11.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the pending breakup of GE and whether it signifies the "end of conglomerates"; and (ii) the "Kasparov Principle" as applied to investing. Enjoy the conversation!   The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither...

Game Theory Dynamics in Consolidating Industries | Companies with Internal Investment Function 07.11.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) game theory in consolidating industries, and how it fits into investment strategy; and (ii) companies with an internal investment function, and whether more companies should pursue it. Enjoy the conversation!   The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expre...

Using Macro Data in the Investment Process | An Area Ripe for Great Investment Ideas 31.10.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) using macro data in the investment process -- specifically, the one source of macro data Phil uses regularly; and (ii) an area ripe for interesting investment ideas: companies whose product or service is important to the customer but represents a small portion of the customer's total cost. Enjoy the conversation!...

Positioning for Longevity in the Investment World | End of Decades-Long Bull Market in Bonds? 24.10.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) positioning for longevity in the investment world; and (ii) whether we are near the end of the decades-long bull market in bonds. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low tur...

David Spiegelhalter on Risk and the Use (and Misuse) of Statistics | Suprising Market Internals 16.10.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) an interview with Sir David Spiegelhalter on risk and the use (and misuse) of statistics, published in the Financial Times on April 16, 2021; and (ii) a table from Morgan Stanley, showing that more than 90% of stocks have declined more than 10% from their YTD highs (>30% for Nasdaq and Russell 2000 stocks) even a...

Duration, Terminal Value, and FOMO | Great Investing Texts to Re-Read Often 10.10.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) duration, terminal value, and the "fear of mission out"; and (ii) investing articles and texts that belong in every investor's "re-read" folder. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a lon...

Special: How the World‘s Greatest Investors Win, with William Green and Phil Ordway 02.10.2021

In this special episode, co-host Phil Ordway speaks with William Green about the book, "Richer, Wiser, Happier: How the World's Greatest Investors Win in Markets and Life". Enjoy the conversation!   About the Participants: Philip Ordway is Managing Principal and Portfolio Manager of Anabatic Fund, L.P. Previously, Philip was a partner at Chicago Fundamental Investment Partners (CFIP). At CFIP, whi...

Confidence vs. Overconfidence | Idea Generation and Getting to ”No” Quickly 27.09.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) confidence vs. overconfidence; and (ii) idea generation, or how to get to "no" quickly in the investment process. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at...

Investment Implications of Labor Shortages | Don‘t Miss the Big Ideas in Investing 18.09.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the prevalence of labor shortages in the US and their potential investment implications; and (ii) the tendency of investors to miss the "big ideas" due to a focus on financial valuation rather than qualitative insight. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partne...

Why All News Seems to Be Good News | Sound Underwriting vs. Position Management 12.09.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) why all news seems to be good news in securities markets, and whether market cycles have actually been dampened or truncated or if that is an exaggeration; and (ii) the distinction between sound underwriting and position management, as illustrated by Elliot's example of Kambi Group. Enjoy the conversation!   Abou...

Season One Wrap: Highlighting Favorite Episodes | A Glimpse of What's to Come 18.07.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic wrap up Season One of This Week in Intelligent Investing. They highlight some of their favorite episodes and provide a glimpse of what's to come in Season Two. The podcast takes a summer break through Labor Day. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Inves...

Scarcity vs. Abundance, and the Curation Unlock | Firestone's Law of Forecasting 03.07.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) scarcity vs. abundance, and curation as the next big unlock; and (ii) "Firestone's Law of Forecasting" and the importance of avoiding zeros. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-te...

Daniel Kahneman's "Noise" | Is Customer Acquisition Cost the New Rent? 26.06.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the idea of a noise audit in the investment process and Daniel Kahneman's new book, "Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgment"; and (ii) whether customer acquisition cost (CAC) should be considered the new rent. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA In...

On Being an Emerging Manager: Experiences, Lessons Learned, Success Factors 12.06.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss what it's like to be an emerging manager. Elliot and Phil share their experiences, lessons learned, and success factors. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth...

Aggregation of Marginal Gains | A Study of Lifetime Value Creation 05.06.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the concept of "aggregation of marginal gains" and related examples; and (ii) an academic study of lifetime value creation in the stock market. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long...

The Big Ideas of Investing | The Sale of Nuance: A Case Study in Incentives 29.05.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the "big ideas" of investing, i.e., what could be said about intelligent investing on a single piece of paper; and (ii) the sale of Nuance to Microsoft as a case study in management incentives. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment...

The Market's Obsession With What's Next | Investing in the Unknown and Unknowable 22.05.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the market's focus on the next imminent thing, both in terms of companies and broader sectors, and what it means for positioning; and (ii) Richard Zeckhauser's paper on risk, Investing in the Unknown and Unknowable. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner,...

Persistence of Market Cap Leaders Over Time | Inflation: Transitory or Not? 15.05.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the largest companies by market cap in 1999 vs. 2021; and (ii) whether the current bout of inflation is transitory or not. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover,...

A Milestone in Corporate Access | Knightian Uncertainty | Top 20 Market Caps 08.05.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) Twitter CFO Ned Segal joining Elliot's recent Twitter Spaces discussion, creating a potential template for other public companies and taking a step toward democratizing corporate access; and (ii) Knightian uncertainty, and (iii) Buffett's table of the top 20 companies by market cap in 1989 vs. 2021. Enjoy the con...

The Distinctiveness and Future of Berkshire Hathaway | Uncertainty and Risk in Investing 01.05.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the incredible long-term success story, the distinctiveness, and the future of Berkshire Hathaway; and (ii) the important distinction between uncertainty and risk in investing. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RG...

Emerging vs. Established Quality | Highest-Returning Stocks of the Past Decade 24.04.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) emerging quality in contrast to established quality, and (ii) the highest-returning stocks of the past decade or two. Enjoy the conversation!   About the Co-Hosts: Philip Ordway is Managing Principal and Portfolio Manager of Anabatic Fund, L.P. Previously, Philip was a partner at Chicago Fundamental Investment Pa...

Commonalities of All-Time Great Investments | Being Polarizing as a Sign of Strength 18.04.2021

In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway and Elliot Turner lead discussions of (i) the commonalities between the best investments of all time and (ii) being polarizing as a sign and source of strength. John Mihaljevic joins the session. Enjoy the discussion!   About the Co-Hosts: Philip Ordway is Managing Principal and Portfolio Manager of Anabatic Fund, L.P. Previously, Philip was a partner at Chica...

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