John Mihaljevic and Elliot Turner
This Week in Intelligent Investing
This Week in Intelligent Investing examines timely and timeless investment topics to help you become a better investor. Enjoy authentic, unscripted discussion. The podcast is brought to you exclusively by MOI Global, the research-driven membership organization of intelligent investors. Your hosts are Elliot Turner, Chief Investment Officer of RGA Investment Advisors, and John Mihaljevic, Chairman of MOI Global.
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May 13, 2026
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Episodes
Shrinking Timeframes and First-Order Thinking Since the Covid Crash 19.11.2023 54:35
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the apparently ever-shrinking timeframes of market participants and the first-order thinking in place since the covid crash. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor an...
The Bond Market from a Value Investor’s Perspective 07.11.2023 43:27
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the bond market from a value investor's perspective. We examine the risk-reward of fixed income in the current market environment. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show,...
Consumer Packaged Goods, GLP-1s, and Big Tech as the New Staples 18.10.2023 59:37
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss pricing and volume in the consumer packaged goods (CPG) sector, the impact of GLP-1 agonists, and whether big tech should be seen as the new staples. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own....
Valuation and Capital Allocation in Declining Industries 06.10.2023 55:32
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss valuation and capital allocation in declining industries. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a r...
Small Caps at Multi-Decade Valuation Low vs. Large Caps: Opportunity or Trap? 18.09.2023 52:08
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the small-cap versus large-cap dichotomy, as reflected by US small caps recently hitting a 22-year low versus large caps (measured as the ratio of the Russell 2000 to the Russell 1000). We debate whether the time has come to seek outperformance in small caps versus large caps. Enjoy the conversation! The primary pu...
Commercial Real Estate and the Future of Offices: Opportunity for Contrarian Investors? 27.05.2023 48:19
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss commercial real estate and the future of offices. They debate whether commercial real estate offers an opportunity for contrarian investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither t...
Takeaways and Lessons from the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting 2023 14.05.2023 52:39
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss takeaways and lessons from the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting 2023. Phil kicks off the episode with a personal recap of his trip to Omaha. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither...
The Lagging Performance of Small-Caps: An Opportunity for Investors? 01.05.2023 57:55
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the small-cap opportunity following a period of underperformance of small-cap versus large-cap stocks. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should...
Overconfidence, Under-Reaction, and Warren Buffett’s Investments 15.04.2023 54:07
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the research paper, "Overconfidence, Under-Reaction, and Warren Buffett's Investments", by John S. Hughes, Jing Liu, and Mingshan Zhang. The paper is available at https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1635061 Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The vie...
Turmoil in the Global Banking System: Causes, Remedies, Opportunities 25.03.2023 1:22:37
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the turmoil in the global banking system, delving into causes, remedies, and opportunities for intelligent investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of it...
The End of TINA -- Does ”There Is No Alternative” to Equities Still Apply? 12.03.2023 53:13
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the end of TINA ("there is no alternative" to equities) and how investors should think about protecting and growing wealth in a treacherous environment. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their ow...
Thinking About Artificial Intelligence and Its Implications for Investors 26.02.2023 48:02
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss artificial intelligence, its capabilities and shortcomings, related trends, and implications for investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content...
Bed Bath & Beyond and the Fleecing of the American Retail Investor 19.02.2023 51:49
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the Bed Bath & Beyond saga and draw analogies to past case studies, including DryShips and Hertz. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be...
The Opportunity in Beaten-Down, Money-Losing Growth Businesses 29.01.2023 58:38
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss long-term investment opportunities among fast-growing but money-losing companies whose stock prices have declined precipitously over the past year. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Ne...
Private Equity and the Game of ”Volatility Laundering” 15.01.2023 49:20
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the private equity asset class and the dangerous game of "volatility laundering", a concept popularized by Cliff Asness. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of...
Year in Review: Why 2022 Was a Year to Remember and Possibly a Turning Point 18.12.2022 54:48
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss some of the "highlights" of 2022, why it was a year to remember, and why it may have been a turning point for investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of...
How to Invest When You Like the Business But Not Necessarily the Management Team 04.12.2022 48:22
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss a type of situation often encountered by investors -- when you like a company's business model and prospects but do not agree with management's strategy or capital allocation policies. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed...
Reflecting on the FTX Debacle and the Factors That Made It Possible 20.11.2022 52:18
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the FTX debacle and the factors that made such an epic disaster not only possible but perhaps likely. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should...
The Capacity to Suffer, How It Applies in Practice, and the Case of Meta 06.11.2022 40:32
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the Tom Russo-championed concept of "the capacity to suffer", how to apply it in practice, and to what extent it can be used to think about the recent woes at Meta Platforms. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts...
David Einhorn on Value Investing: Will It Ever Come Back? 22.10.2022 47:18
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss David Einhorn's recent comments on value investing, which are available at https://youtu.be/ERa_d7PpbYU?t=31 Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content...
Reflections on Buffett’s Famous Essay, ”How Inflation Swindles the Equity Investor” 09.10.2022 54:42
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss Warren Buffett's famous 1977 essay, "How Inflation Swindles the Equity Investor". The co-hosts examine equity investing in the context of an inflationary environment. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guest...
The Challenge and Risks of Managing Inventory in Light of COVID-Related Demand Swings 24.09.2022 46:33
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the challenges some companies have experienced managing their inventory levels in light of COVID-related demand swings. In particular, the hosts reflect on a Wall Street Journal article about Scotts Miracle-Gro (NYSE: SMG). They also touch on the challenges faced by Peloton (Nasdaq: PTON). Enjoy the conversation! T...
The Cyclicality of Malthusianism, and Related Investment Implications 11.09.2022 37:05
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the cyclicality of Malthusianism, and related investment implications. "Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply or other resources is linear, which eventually reduces living standards to the point of triggering a population die off." (source: Wik...
The Futility of Recession Forecasting as Part of an Investment Process 10.07.2022 45:44
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the futility of recession forecasting as a way of informing investment and portfolio management decisions. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content s...
SPECIAL: Vitaliy Katsenelson on the Stoic ”Operating System”, Painful Experiences in Investing 03.07.2022 1:01:53
In this special episode we are joined by Vitaliy Katsenelon, CIO of Denver-based value investing firm IMA and author of Soul In the Game. In this wide-ranging conversation we discuss what inspired Vitaliy to write the book, the Stoic "operating system for life," painful experiences in investing, and how to think and debate like a scientist. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this pod...
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