Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
This Is TASTE
If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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Episodes
680: From NBA Dancer to Bad B*tch in the Kitch with Cassie Yeung 01.11.2025 35:22
Cassie Yeung is a wildly popular food content creator known for her straight talk and delicious, approachable recipes. Her debut cookbook, Bad B*tch in the Kitch, is a New York Times Bestseller and one of the season’s buzziest titles. Formerly a professional dancer and a member of the NBA’s Brooklyn Net’s dance team the Brooklynettes, Cassie decided to share her love for Asian cuisine on social me...
679: Hetty Lui McKinnon Has a Salad Superpower 31.10.2025 1:07:58
Hetty Lui McKinnon is one of our favorite recipe developers, and she writes a mean Substack to boot. She’s the author of a fun new book, Linger, which smartly bridges her love for plant-based cooking, dinner parties, and salad artistry. In this episode, Hetty returns to our studio to discuss her viral tomato and dumpling salad, and why a party at her house might include a photo shoot. Also on the...
678: Smithereens Charts Its Own Course with Nikita Malhotra & Nick Tamburo 29.10.2025 1:14:00
Nick Tamburo and Nikita Malhotra are the chef and wine director of Smithereens, a New England-style seafood spot in the East Village. Their thoughtful, imaginative takes on regional culinary traditions and their own cravings result in a totally singular restaurant—and today on the show, we’re unpacking how food and drinks combine at Smithereens. And at the top of the show, we have a great conversa...
677: Is Sourmilk the Graza of Yogurt? Kiki Couchman Bets on Bettering the Microbiome. 27.10.2025 54:27
Kiki Couchman is the cofounder of Sourmilk, a well-positioned yogurt company with more hustle than the average start-up. We found Sourmilk on social media and was impressed even before we tried the creamy and probiotic-rich yogurt. It’s good stuff, as is Kiki’s story about how she quit her finance job to start a yogurt company with her best friend—a refrain often repeated in Sourmilk’s savvy marke...
676: Michael W. Twitty Went Deep On American Southern Food 25.10.2025 53:06
Michael W. Twitty is an acclaimed culinary historian and the author of the two-time James Beard Award–winning book The Cooking Gene as well as Rice and Koshersoul. His encyclopedic new book, Recipes from the American South, is a deeply researched, home cook’s guide to the vast genre of Southern cuisine, offering historical insight alongside a diverse array of recipes. It’s a delight having him on...
675: The Incredible Nite Yun and Why Cambodian Food Is So F*cking Good 24.10.2025 1:16:35
Nite Yun was born in a refugee camp after her parents escaped from war-torn Cambodia. Her family eventually moved to California, where she grew up listening to her father’s Khmer rock and roll music and learned to cook traditional Cambodian dishes from her mother. Inspired by trips to Cambodia to learn about her heritage, Nite dedicated herself to bringing the flavors of Cambodian food back to the...
674: Sean Sherman Shares The Diverse Indigenous Foods of Turtle Island 22.10.2025 1:11:29
Sean Sherman is an award-winning chef, educator, author, and activist. A member of the Oglala Lakota Sioux tribe, he is dedicated to reviving Indigenous food traditions through his Minneapolis restaurant Owamni, the nonprofit NATIFS, and cookbooks like the fantastic new book Turtle Island. Today on the show, we talk about the years of research that resulted in Turtle Island, decolonizing Indigenou...
673: That Time Alice Waters Went Canoeing With RFK Jr. 20.10.2025 55:19
This one has been a long time coming! The one and only Alice Waters joins us in the studio for an amazing conversation. We naturally talk about her legacy at Chez Panisse, the pioneering restaurant in Berkeley, California, that opened in 1971 with California farmers front and center. There would be no farm-to-table movement without Alice. We also talk about her work bringing regenerative farming t...
672: Eric Wareheim Is Eric Steakheim Now 17.10.2025 1:01:34
Eric Wareheim is an actor, director, winemaker, and writer based in Los Angeles. You may know him as one half of the comedy duo behind the cult-followed Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!, but in recent years, he’s been making a foray into food and wine, starting with the New York Times Best Seller cookbook Foodheim. His new book, Steak House, chronicles his freewheeling, exhaustive search for...
Preview: Fela Kuti: Fear No Man 16.10.2025 38:30
We’re taking a break from food conversations to highlight another love of ours: Great music. In Fela Kuti: Fear No Man, Jad Abumrad—creator of Radiolab, More Perfect, and Dolly Parton’s America—tells the story of one of the great political awakenings in music: how a classically trained "colonial boy" traveled to America, in search of Africa, only to return to Nigeria and transform his sound into...
671: The Best Restaurants In America Aren’t Always New with Jon Bonné 15.10.2025 43:35
Jon Bonné is Resy’s managing editor, and the author of The New French Wine and other books, and a winner of awards from most major food organizations. We always love having Jon in the studio, and today we talk in detail about the Resy 100, a decisive and illuminating list of restaurants around the United States that define dining today. The list has a very strong point of view and highlights resta...
670: New York’s Brunch Recession on Food Writers Talking About Food Writing with the New York Times Nikita Richardson & Matt Rodbard 13.10.2025 56:02
It’s the return of Food Writers Talking About Food Writing. Every couple of weeks, Matt invites a journalist to talk about some favorite recent food writing as well as their thoughts on the industry as a whole. In today’s episode, we have a great conversation with Nikita Richardson. Nikita is an editor in the Food section of The New York Times and the creator of the “Where to Eat: New York City” n...
669: Behind the Scenes of Topjaw and Sweating Out Michelin Stars with Jesse Burgess 11.10.2025 42:27
Jesse Burgess is behind Topjaw, the wildly popular, restaurant-centric social media account covering the food scene in London and beyond. Jesse is also the host of a cool new series on Apple TV+ called Knife Edge: Chasing Michelin Stars, which is streaming now. The show follows several restaurants, including Coqodaq, Nōksu, and the Musket Room (in New York) and Feld and Esmé (in Chicago), as they...
668: To Die For: Rosie Grant Is Documenting Gravestone Recipes 10.10.2025 1:16:00
Rosie Grant is the creator of Ghostly Archive, a project documenting the real-life phenomenon of recipes inscribed on tombstones in cemeteries around the world. After years of seeking out these immortalized dishes, she’s released a truly singular cookbook, To Die For: A Cookbook of Gravestone Recipes. Today on the show, we chat about the project, creating the book, and some of Rosie’s favorite gra...
667: This Pasta Conversation Will Change Your Home Cooking Life with Joshua McFadden 08.10.2025 54:46
This one is a long time coming, and we’re thrilled to welcome Joshua McFadden to the studio. Joshua is a chef based in Oregon and the author of one of the most beloved cookbooks of all time, Six Seasons. He’s back with a new one that is equally incredible. Six Seasons of Pasta takes the same six-seasons principle (discussed in the episode) to pasta cookery, and it might just break your brain. We t...
666: Vittles Editor Jonathan Nunn Is Redefining UK Food Media 06.10.2025 1:09:27
Jonathan Nunn is the London-based founder and coeditor of Vittles, a food and culture newsletter based in the UK and India. Vittles is a singular source for incisive writing about contemporary food culture, from deep dives to restaurant reviews, and it’s a pleasure to have Jonathan in the studio to talk about what’s shaping its ever-growing coverage. And, at the top of the show, it’s the return o...
665: Queer Eye Was a “Middle-Aged Boy Band” with Antoni Porowski 04.10.2025 1:20:04
Antoni Porowski is best known as the food and wine expert on the Netflix series Queer Eye, which will be airing its final season later this year. He’s a best-selling author and the host of a terrific food travel show, No Taste Like Home. Matt joined him onstage at the Traverse City Food & Wine festival for an amazing conversation. The event was hosted by the National Writers Series, a terrific org...
664: Food Writers Talking About Food Writing with Elyse Inamine & Matt Rodbard 03.10.2025 54:24
It’s the return of a special video podcast series: Food Writers Talking About Food Writing. It’s available on the TASTE YouTube channel, so make sure to subscribe and check out the video version of this podcast. Every couple of weeks, Matt invites a journalist to talk about some favorite recent food writing as well as their thoughts on the industry as a whole. In today’s episode, we have a great c...
663: Restaurant Chef Life with Sara Kramer (Kismet) and Sarah Thompson (Casa Playa) 01.10.2025 59:05
Today we have a really great episode where we go behind the scenes with two incredible chefs, Sara Kramer and Sarah Thompson. Sara Kramer is co-chef and co-owner of Kismet in Los Angeles, a restaurant that blends Mediterranean and Californian sensibilities flawlessly. Kismet has been a go-to for LA diners for nearly a decade, and we talk about her Resy Standby status. Sarah Thompson is the chef a...
662: Pastry Diplomacy with David Lebovitz 29.09.2025 1:08:01
David Lebovitz is a cookbook author and pastry chef based in Paris. After spending 13 years in the pastry kitchen at the legendary Chez Panisse, he embarked on a prolific blogging and cookbook writing career. His latest is an all-new edition of the classic Ready for Dessert, a revised and expanded collection. It’s so fun to talk with David about life and pastries in Paris and about updating this c...
661: Ruby Tandoh Knows Why We All Eat This Way 26.09.2025 1:00:26
Ruby Tandoh is a writer and baker based in London. A finalist on season four of The Great British Bake Off, she’s written several smart and singular books, including the fantastic new book All Consuming: Why We Eat the Way We Eat Now. It’s an incredible exploration of taste as a social construct that traces the historic and cultural context behind contemporary food culture. Today on the show, we g...
660: Muse Is a Los Angeles Restaurant Scene Secret with Fardad Khayami 24.09.2025 1:13:38
Fardad Khayami, the chef-owner of Muse in Santa Monica, has a really great story. Raised in London, and a restaurant fan basically from birth, Fardad attended University of Southern California and started hosting his own pop-up dinners, first for friends and then for ticket holders. The waiting list reached over 6,000 names, and he eventually channeled that love for hospitality into his own restau...
659: The Jake Cohen Experience 22.09.2025 1:27:18
Jake Cohen returns to the studio for a really fun conversation. Jake’s a talented cookbook author who is most certainly in the modern social media mix. His new book, Dinner Party Animal, is honestly a joy to read. It offers complete party plans with recipes in the Jake Cohen style—smart, a little sweaty, and with fun and creativity at the center. We talk about what makes a great party and how to t...
658: Novelists Ed Park & Jason Diamond Get the Food Details So Right 20.09.2025 1:21:52
Today is a really special episode for Matt in that we dive into two of his great loves: food and fiction. In this episode, he catches up with two authors and journalists he has deep respect for: Ed Park and Jason Diamond. Ed is the author of the terrific new short story collection An Oral History of Atlantis and a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. We talk about the 1990s and Ed’s past life working...
657: Eater’s Fall Cookbook Preview with Bettina Makalintal 19.09.2025 52:08
Bettina Makalintal is a senior reporter at Eater and helps lead the publication’s cookbook coverage. Today Eater released a list of its favorites from the busy season, and we talk all about it, as well as some trends Bettina is seeing in book publishing. I always look forward to Eater’s robust and well-considered lists of books each season, and this one is no different. Bettina fills us in, and I...
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