Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
This Is TASTE
If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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822: How to Build a Booming Bakery Business at an Artisan Market with Zeena Lattouf Joy 14.08.2026 46:56
Zeena Lattouf Joy is the founder and head baker of Zeena Bakery , a Palestinian American bakery based in NYC. Their ma’amoul, focaccia, and other treats are beloved mainstays of the artisan side of the Fort Greene farmers’ market—and a regular part of Aliza’s weekend routine. Today on the show, Zeena talks about building a bakery that supports farmers in NYC and the Levant, the realities of operat...
822: How to Build a Booming Bakery Business at an Artisan Market with Zeena Lattouf Joy 14.08.2026 50:26
Zeena Lattouf Joy is the founder and head baker of Zeena Bakery, a Palestinian American bakery based in NYC. Their ma’amoul, focaccia, and other treats are beloved mainstays of the artisan side of the Fort Greene farmers’ market—and a regular part of Aliza’s weekend routine. Today on the show, Zeena talks about building a bakery that supports farmers in NYC and the Levant, the realities of operati...
821: Carla Lalli Stopped Performing and Started Cooking for Herself 12.08.2026 55:56
Carla Lalli built her name in the Bon Appétit Test Kitchen before going independent and publishing two best-selling cookbooks. Yet there was much more going on in her life. Her marriage ended after 24 years, and her sparkling new book, Food Is a Feeling, tells the story through 65 recipes and 30 essays that treat cooking not as a lifestyle brand extension but as the thing that got her through it a...
820: Airplane Food, Elite Status Chasing, and What the Airlines Don't Want You to Know with Zach Griff 10.08.2026 1:02:14
Zach Griff spent nearly seven years as The Points Guy’s most recognizable reporter, filing dispatches from first-class cabins and airport lounges around the world—before walking away in 2025 to launch his own venture, From the Tray Table. Today he joins Matt to talk about what actually makes airline food good, the science of why food tastes different at 30,000 feet, the credit-card-fueled arms rac...
819: Confessions of a Cookbook Literary Agent with Sally Ekus 08.08.2026 1:11:09
Sally Ekus has been inside the cookbook business since before she could walk—literally stuffing press kits for her mother’s culinary PR firm as a kid. Now a senior literary agent at Jean V. Naggar Literary Agency leading the Ekus Group , she’s brokered hundreds of book deals and become one of publishing’s most transparent voices on how cookbooks actually get made. She’s behind the terrific Substac...
819: Confessions of a Cookbook Literary Agent with Sally Ekus 08.08.2026 1:15:39
Sally Ekus has been inside the cookbook business since before she could walk—literally stuffing press kits for her mother’s culinary PR firm as a kid. Now a senior literary agent at Jean V. Naggar Literary Agency leading the Ekus Group, she’s brokered hundreds of book deals and become one of publishing’s most transparent voices on how cookbooks actually get made. She’s behind the terrific Substack...
818: It Took a Chef to Make a Buzzy Drinks Brand like Faccia Brutto 07.08.2026 58:54
Patrick Miller is the founder and distiller of Faccia Brutto , an Italian-style spirits brand based in Brooklyn, New York. He worked as a chef for 19 years in some of LA and New York’s brightest restaurants, and he began making amari as holiday gifts for loved ones while working as the chef-partner at Rucola in Brooklyn. Today Faccia Bruttio is busy using old-world techniques to create singular an...
818: It Took a Chef to Make a Buzzy Drinks Brand like Faccia Brutto 07.08.2026 1:02:24
Patrick Miller is the founder and distiller of Faccia Brutto, an Italian-style spirits brand based in Brooklyn, New York. He worked as a chef for 19 years in some of LA and New York’s brightest restaurants, and he began making amari as holiday gifts for loved ones while working as the chef-partner at Rucola in Brooklyn. Today Faccia Bruttio is busy using old-world techniques to create singular and...
817: TASTE Travels: Kingston, NY 05.08.2026 1:15:36
Today’s episode is really special: a deep eating and drinking tour of Kingston, New York, the Hudson Valley town located under two hours’ drive from New York City that has quietly built one of the most interesting food scenes in the state. Matt has lived nearby for the past five years after two decades in Brooklyn, and Kingston has become his go-to for dining out. His guide for the day: Jenn Sit,...
816: The Pad Thai–Free Zone with Bangkok Supper Club’s Jenn Saesue 03.08.2026 41:22
Jenn Saesue didn’t want to open another Thai restaurant that served the same watered-down menu as everyone else’s—so she didn’t. Nearly a decade later, she’s the cofounder of 55 Hospitality, the group behind Fish Cheeks , the Michelin-listed Bangkok Supper Club , and Bub’s Bakery , New York’s first completely allergen-free bakery. Matt talks with Jenn about refusing pad Thai, managing an impossibl...
816: The Pad Thai–Free Zone with Bangkok Supper Club’s Jenn Saesue 03.08.2026 44:52
Jenn Saesue didn’t want to open another Thai restaurant that served the same watered-down menu as everyone else’s—so she didn’t. Nearly a decade later, she’s the cofounder of 55 Hospitality, the group behind Fish Cheeks, the Michelin-listed Bangkok Supper Club, and Bub’s Bakery, New York’s first completely allergen-free bakery. Matt talks with Jenn about refusing pad Thai, managing an impossible r...
815: Anthony Bourdain’s Life Was a Movie. Matt Johnson Directed It. 31.07.2026 42:28
Matt Johnson directed the films BlackBerry and the DIY comedy Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie —now he’s taking on Anthony Bourdain. His new film Tony , out in August from A24, skips the traditional biopic format entirely, compressing three formative Provincetown summers described in Kitchen Confidential into one transformative season for a 19-year-old, pre-fame Bourdain. Johnson joins us to t...
815: Anthony Bourdain’s Life Was a Movie. Matt Johnson Directed It. 31.07.2026 45:58
Matt Johnson directed the films BlackBerry and the DIY comedy Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie—now he’s taking on Anthony Bourdain. His new film Tony, out in August from A24, skips the traditional biopic format entirely, compressing three formative Provincetown summers described in Kitchen Confidential into one transformative season for a 19-year-old, pre-fame Bourdain. Johnson joins us to tal...
814: How Pierce Abernathy Went from Instagram to Your Bookshelf 29.07.2026 53:38
Pierce Abernathy is a recipe developer and content creator based in Brooklyn. You may know him from his popular online videos showcasing his seasonal approach to plant-forward cooking—and now, he’s releasing a debut cookbook: Every Leaf, Every Stem : Craveable, Creative Vegetables All Year Round . Today on the show, we go deep on Pierce’s inspiration and book-making process, including getting the...
814: How Pierce Abernathy Went from Instagram to Your Bookshelf 29.07.2026 57:08
Pierce Abernathy is a recipe developer and content creator based in Brooklyn. You may know him from his popular online videos showcasing his seasonal approach to plant-forward cooking—and now, he’s releasing a debut cookbook: Every Leaf, Every Stem: Craveable, Creative Vegetables All Year Round. Today on the show, we go deep on Pierce’s inspiration and book-making process, including getting the bo...
813: Anthony Bourdain in 2005: Direct From Cassette 27.07.2026 49:51
In 2005, Matt sat across from Anthony Bourdain at a magazine photo shoot. His first TV show, No Reservations , was only a few months old, and they dug into the contents of his travel bags, which he had brought to the set from his apartment in Hell’s Kitchen. Two hours turned into a highly personal conversation, recorded on a cassette that sat untouched for twenty years. This week, that tape gets i...
813: Anthony Bourdain in 2005: Direct From Cassette 27.07.2026 53:21
In 2005, Matt sat across from Anthony Bourdain at a magazine photo shoot. His first TV show, No Reservations, was only a few months old, and they dug into the contents of his travel bags, which he had brought to the set from his apartment in Hell’s Kitchen. Two hours turned into a highly personal conversation, recorded on a cassette that sat untouched for twenty years. This week, that tape gets it...
812: Building Birdee Bakery with Renata Ameni 25.07.2026 38:28
Renata Ameni is chef partner of Birdee , a bakery and all-day café on the Williamsburg waterfront. The Brazilian-born chef is a fine-dining veteran who worked at Eleven Madison Park and opened Crown Shy before hopping over to more casual territory. Today on the show, we talk about bridging the gap between different styles of restaurants, making singular pastries, and more. Subscribe to This Is TAS...
812: Building Birdee Bakery with Renata Ameni 25.07.2026 41:58
Renata Ameni is chef partner of Birdee, a bakery and all-day café on the Williamsburg waterfront. The Brazilian-born chef is a fine-dining veteran who worked at Eleven Madison Park and opened Crown Shy before hopping over to more casual territory. Today on the show, we talk about bridging the gap between different styles of restaurants, making singular pastries, and more. Subscribe to This Is TAST...
811: 1990s Los Angeles and 2010s YouTube with the Internet’s Grill Dad, Noah Galuten 24.07.2026 44:45
Noah Galuten —chef, James Beard Award–winning cookbook author, and YouTube food guy —joins the show to talk about his new book, Grill Time! . The conversation covers his unconventional path from UCLA theater student to LA pitmaster, the case for treating your gas grill as a weekday kitchen appliance, and a deep dive into his research trip to Hermosillo, Mexico, where he discovered that everything...
811: 1990s Los Angeles and 2010s YouTube with the Internet’s Grill Dad, Noah Galuten 24.07.2026 48:15
Noah Galuten—chef, James Beard Award–winning cookbook author, and YouTube food guy—joins the show to talk about his new book, Grill Time!. The conversation covers his unconventional path from UCLA theater student to LA pitmaster, the case for treating your gas grill as a weekday kitchen appliance, and a deep dive into his research trip to Hermosillo, Mexico, where he discovered that everything he...
810: The Boss of Your Kitchen con Omi Hopper 22.07.2026 38:13
Omi Hopper is a Puerto Rican chef, social media influencer, and food entrepreneur. You might know her as a semifinalist on season two of Next Level Chef, or from her popular cooking videos across social media, where she shares her takes on Puerto Rican classics. Today on the show, we talk about making her debut cookbook, Cooking con Omi : A Love Letter to Puerto Rican Home Cooking . Subscribe to T...
810: The Boss of Your Kitchen con Omi Hopper 22.07.2026 41:43
Omi Hopper is a Puerto Rican chef, social media influencer, and food entrepreneur. You might know her as a semifinalist on season two of Next Level Chef, or from her popular cooking videos across social media, where she shares her takes on Puerto Rican classics. Today on the show, we talk about making her debut cookbook, Cooking con Omi: A Love Letter to Puerto Rican Home Cooking. Subscribe to Thi...
809: Claire Saffitz’s Summer Baking and Next Book Plot Twist 20.07.2026 1:18:43
Claire Saffitz joins us for a summer-minded conversation about cooking outside the dessert lane. The best-selling author of Dessert Person and What’s for Dessert talks pizza-oven construction, YouTube behind-the-scenes, garden life in the Hudson Valley, and—for the first time—details about her upcoming third cookbook, which is a bit of a departure from her previous work. And it’s the return of Thr...
809: Claire Saffitz’s Summer Baking and Next Book Plot Twist 20.07.2026 1:23:13
Claire Saffitz joins us for a summer-minded conversation about cooking outside the dessert lane. The best-selling author of Dessert Person and What’s for Dessert talks pizza-oven construction, YouTube behind-the-scenes, garden life in the Hudson Valley, and—for the first time—details about her upcoming third cookbook, which is a bit of a departure from her previous work. And it’s the return of Thr...
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