This Is Not Church
This Is Not Church Podcast
This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter mov...
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Only Love: How Everything Was. Is. And Will Be With Niq Ruud 18.10.2021 59:22
In this episode we talk with Niq Ruud. Niq's bio in his own words: The funky spelling is my dad’s fault, but it’s just pronounced like your favorite Christmas saint. I grew up in the good ole Pacific Northwest which means I like doing stuff outside—alpine climbing, sailing, surfing, skiing, cycling, et cetera. I studied religion in college (Walla Walla University), worked as a pastor while I went...
Love Matters More with Jared Byas 11.10.2021 52:34
In this episode we talk with Jared Byas. Jared Byas is cohost of the popular podcast The Bible for Normal People and coauthor of the book Genesis for Normal People . Jared is the author of the book Love Matters More: How Fighting to Be Right Keeps Us from Loving Like Jesus He has served as a teaching pastor and a professor of philosophy and biblical studies. Jared’s passion is to explore new ways...
Theosis And The Four Paths With Alexander John Shaia 04.10.2021 59:30
In this episode we talk with Alexander John Shaia. Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander John was part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up immersed in the ancient traditions of Middle Eastern Christianity (Maronite Catholicism) and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. He was led otherwise. Al...
Complementarianism: Different Word, Same Story – A Conversation With Beth Allison Barr 27.09.2021 1:13:16
In this episode we talk with Beth Allison Barr Beth Allison Barr received her B.A. from Baylor University and her M.A. and Ph. D. in Medieval History from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Her research focuses on women and religion in medieval and early modern England, especially in how they are viewed and portrayed in sermon literature. How the advent of Protestantism affected wome...
Bonus Episode Catching Up With Keith 23.09.2021 1:12:41
In this bonus episode we catch up with Keith Giles and all his goings on. Keith is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb." Keith is the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Keith also teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstructio...
Delving Into Spiritual Intimacy With Wayne Jacobsen 20.09.2021 1:05:38
In this episode we talk with Wayne Jacobsen Wayne served as a pastor for twenty years and was also a contributing editor to Leadership Journal. As the director of Lifestream Ministries, he now travels the world helping people learn to live deeply in the life of Jesus and share it freely with others. He has written and worked with others on many books about spiritual intimacy and relational communi...
F**k Off God: A Brutally Honest Conversation with PK Langley 13.09.2021 1:09:13
In this episode we talk with PK Langley. PK Langley is married to her wife and best friend of 22 years, Ashley. They have a son and daughter in love and a lovely grandson. PK is an ordained pastor who spent 30 years in church ministry and as a senior pastor. She has travelled internationally, preaching and teaching conferences to crowds in the thousands. She is an author and is currently pursuing...
What Can‘t Be Hidden: A Conversation with Brandon Andress 06.09.2021 1:06:28
In this episode we talk with Brandon Andress. Brandon is the author of What Can’t Be Hidden- A Novel and bestselling Beauty in the Wreckage: Finding Peace in the Age of Outrage. As a freelance writer, he has contributed his work to Relevant Magazine, ReKnew, and Zondervan. Brandon lives in Columbus, Indiana and is a graduate of Hanover College in Psychology with an MBA from Indiana Wesleyan Univ...
The Atheistic Theist: A Conversation With Jeff Turner 30.08.2021 1:06:29
In this episode we talk with Jeff Turner. Jeff Turner is a husband and a father. Jeff is the author of two books – The Atheistic Theist and Saints In The Arms Of A Happy God. Jeff is also the host of the podcast - Religionless. You can follow Jeff on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find links to Jeff's book, podcast, as well as other cool stuff on his LinkTree You can also find...
The Church Can Go To Hell - A Conversation With Desimber Rose 23.08.2021 56:30
In this episode we talk with Desimber Rose. The author of the book - The Church Can Go To Hell Desimber Rose is an author, poet, spoken word artist, and former Pastor of The Restoration Center in Greenville, South Carolina and The Rock Worship Center in West Union, South Carolina. At every opportunity she is committed to reaching souls through love and truth, restoring lives through servant leade...
A Bonus Conversation With Kenneth Tanner 18.08.2021 21:33
We had such a good time chatting with Kenneth Tanner, we kept the conversation going at the end of the regular episode. We decided to share this conversation with you all. Kenneth Tanner is pastor of Church of the Holy Redeemer in Rochester Hills, Michigan. You can connect with Kenneth Tanner on: Facebook Instagram Twitter Check out the website for Church of the Holy Redeemer You can c...
Reframing Paul with Douglas Campbell 16.08.2021 1:04:26
In this episode we continue our conversation with Douglas Campbell. Douglas was born in London but raised a New Zealander. He did his undergraduate degree in Political Philosophy at the University of Otago in New Zealand, and his graduate degrees in Religious Studies at the University of Toronto in Canada, where he was supported by a Commonwealth Scholarship. He wrote his thesis on Romans 3:21-26...
Good Things Happen In This Episode with Ellen Compton 09.08.2021 1:10:31
In this episode we have a conversation with Ellen Compton. I will let Ellen introduce herself. Allow me to introduce myself with a few miscellaneous thoughts: I am a family-prioritizing, coffee-drinking, truth-telling, authenticity-seeking, list-making, God-following, world-loving, ambiverted, former closet writer. The words laid back have never been used to describe me. I am an unabashed ove...
One More Time Around With Paul Bergmann 02.08.2021 1:14:36
In this episode we continue our conversation with Paul Bergmann. Paul Bergmann #thatguyonfacebook. Paul is a former UCLA Bruin football Rose Bowl champion, a former NFL player, and the former pastor of Ojai Valley Community Church. He lives in Ojai with his wife Kathy. Paul now spends his time helping the marginalized in his community and runs a Facebook group called 1communityOjai. A nonsectarian...
Rob Bell Knows That Guy. A Conversation With Paul Bergmann 26.07.2021 1:10:11
In this episode we talk with Paul Bergmann. Paul Bergmann #thatguyonfacebook. Paul is a former UCLA Bruin football Rose Bowl champion, a former NFL player, and the former pastor of Ojai Valley Community Church. He lives in Ojai with his wife Kathy. Paul now spends his time helping the marginalized in his community and runs a Facebook group called 1communityOjai. A nonsectarian gathering to help ea...
Shattering the stronghold of shame with John Lynch 19.07.2021 1:21:40
In this episode we talk with John Lynch John Lynch is a speaker, author, and former pastor. After 27 years as the teaching pastor at Open Door Fellowship in Phoenix, Arizona, John joined Trueface in 1997 and began speaking nationally and both authoring and coauthoring many resources such as The Cure and TrueFaced, and his own story in On My Worst Day. As an outlet for his love of writing and perf...
Unlocking The True Nature Of God With C. Baxter Kruger 05.07.2021 1:27:57
In this episode we talk with C. Baxter Kruger. C. BAXTER KRUGER, Ph. D. is a Trinitarian scholar and the Director of Perichoresis Ministries, an international ministry proclaiming gospel of the Triune God. A life-long student of psychology, he has a degree in political science, and his Doctor of Philosophy from Kings College, Aberdeen, Scotland. He is the author of nine books including the interna...
The Art Of The Dissident: A Conversation With David Hayward (The Naked Pastor) 28.06.2021 1:08:30
In this episode we talk with David Hayward - AKA The Naked Pastor. After 30 years in the church, David left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. David Hayward - AKA NakedPastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it. David is no stranger to belief systems - he holds a Masters in Theological Studies, as...
Jesus And John Wayne: A conversation with Kristin Du Mez 21.06.2021 1:06:05
In this episode we talk with Kristin Du Mez. Kristin Kobes Du Mez is a New York Times bestselling author and Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University. She holds a PhD from the University of Notre Dame and her research focuses on the intersection of gender, religion, and politics. She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post , NBC News , Religion News Service...
Petitionary Prayer: Real or Superstition? A conversation with Mark G Karris 14.06.2021 1:06:31
In this episode we talk to Mark Karris. Mark Gregory Karris is a licensed marriage and family therapist, theologian, adjunct professor, ordained pastor, husband, writer, recording artist, and worship leader. He's a voracious reader, researcher and all around biophilic. He has received a master's degree in counseling through the Alliance Graduate School of Counseling in Nyack, N.Y., a master of div...
Metaphysics, Reiki, and the Cosmic Christ with Katy Valentine 07.06.2021 58:21
In this episode we talk to Katy Valentine about metaphysics, reiki, and the cosmic Christ. We delve into questions relating to the god of mystery. Katy received her PhD in New Testament from the Graduate Theological Union and is an ordained minister in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). She is one of the co-hosts of the very popular podcast The Heretic Happy Hour. She is also the co-host...
The Human God - a conversation with Fr. Kenneth Tanner 31.05.2021 1:19:15
In this episode we chat with Fr. Kenneth Tanner about finding a richer and more authentic connection to faith. Looking at the early church, and how it relates to us today. Seeing the humanity of Jesus. The human god...the suffering god. Kenneth Tanner is pastor of Church of the Holy Redeemer in Rochester Hills, Michigan. You can connect with Kenneth Tanner on: Facebook Instagram Twitt...
Getting Comfortable in Uncomfortable Conversations with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken 24.05.2021 1:14:39
In this episode we chat with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken about racism in America, the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, and the similarities and differences between these two issues that seem to divide our country. Felicia is an ordained pastor with River Fellowship and presently resides in Atlanta, Georgia with her husband, Doug. Together they have served in church leadership and ministerial ro...
WTF with MJD: A conversation with Matthew J Distefano 17.05.2021 1:04:38
In this episode we chat with Matthew Distefano. The author of the recently released Bonfire Session: A Year of Shadow and Flame. Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple best-selling books, co-host of two podcasts, a long-time social worker, and hip-hop artist. He lives in Northern California with his wife and daughter. You can connect with Matthew on: Facebook Instagram Twitter...
And Now, Deep Thoughts With Meg Calvin 10.05.2021 1:08:19
In this episode we chat with Meg Calvin. The author of - I Am My Own Sanctuary: How A Recovering Holy-Roller Found Healing And Power. Meggie Lee Calvin (Meg) is an Amazon Bestselling Author, Wife, Mom, Speaker, Podcaster, and Coach who helps her fellow Spiritually-Attuned Go-Getters find confidence and certainty in who they were meant to be. You can connect with Meg on: Facebook Instagram ...
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