Colette Alexander and Clint Byrum

This is Fine! A podcast about resilience engineering and software

A podcast about resilience engineering and software. Ever wondered why things on the internet break? Do you work in software and wish that you could have a Dear-Abby-Like call-in show that could answer your deepest questions about how to make your workplace suck less? We're here to help!  Write us anonymously at our open question form Email us at: thisisfine.softwarepodcast@gmail.com Call us and leave a voicemail, or text us at: ‪(401) 592-7574‬

Author

Colette Alexander and Clint Byrum

Category

Technology

Podcast website

www.thisisfinepod.com

Latest episode

Jun 28, 2026

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Episodes

Teaser Episode - Season 2 12.03.2025

The XKCD comic that’s in Colette’s thesis is Dependency Justin Reock is at DX https://punkrocksafety.com/ are our mutual podcast friends

Episode 10 - When They go Full ITIL on You w/special guest john allspaw 20.02.2025

You can find John at Adaptive Capacity Labs or his (old) blog at Kitchen Soap .  ITIL is… well, it’s a thing . Colette’s “You’re surprised it works in the first place” comes from Richard Cook’s brilliant Velocity talk in 2013. FYI, John wasn’t talking about Franz Kafka , we think he was talking about Apache Kafka . But they are pretty similar, we think.

Episode 9 - Learning from Incidents with special guest Alex Elman 12.02.2025

You can find ACL (Adaptive Capacity Labs), the folks who train software engineers how to do LFI and who we speak so fondly of here . Colette mentioned Allspaw’s take on Five Whys - if you want to know why we think there are better options for learning out there, you can read it here . Alex did a great talk with Sarah Butt on some LFI related things at LFI Conf in 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watc...

Episode 8 - Why Human Factors and Not Technical Ones 29.01.2025

The spicy Allspaw take that inspired our listener is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jallspaw_a-im-a-bit-salty-today-b-if-you-dont-activity-7287968197742411776-5_Ay Charles Perrow is the guy who wrote Normal Accidents ( https://bookshop.org/p/books/normal-accidents-living-with-high-risk-technologies-updated-edition-revised-charles-perrow/10369279?ean=9780691004129&next=t&next=t ) , wh...

Episode 7 - AI and Resilience with special guest Courtney Nash 22.01.2025

The VOID⁠ is one of our favorite things! Some of Courtney’s inoculation of the MTTR virus can be found here: ⁠An interview with InfoQ⁠ ⁠A talk at SRE Con Americas in 2022⁠ Courtney’s ⁠recent talk on Automation and AI⁠ David Graeber’s Bullshit Jobs started as ⁠a talk⁠ and then a ⁠great book⁠ Want to read more about HABA-MABA and CSE/RE ? Lisanne Bainbridge’s ⁠The Ironies of Automation⁠ is a perenni...

Episode 6 - Can You Buy Resilience? With Special Guest Steve McGhee 08.01.2025

Steve is the host of the Google SRE Prodcast , you should check it out! Colette got her chickens from Greenfire Farms , and her chicken coop from Carolina Coops , if anyone is wondering. The Chris Hayes podcast Colette mentioned about unconditional cash transfers is here . Iain M. Banks is an author of The Culture series, a set of fiction books based in a post-scarcity society If you didn’t get th...

episode 5 - curating your resilience engineering 101 22.12.2024

We talk about our favorite recommendations for someone who's just getting into this whole resilience engineering thing. A small note: Clint's voice is a little low in this one! We tried to do audio magic as much as we could to fix it, but hopefully you'll forgive us with your holiday spirit and we'll do better next time. <3 Notes: ⁠How Complex Systems Fail⁠ by Richard I. Cook ⁠Resilience in Com...

Episode 4 - A look at the 2024 dora report 11.12.2024

Fred’s wonderful blog This year’s DORA report Lee, Ramsey & Hicks on productivity and performance Bainbridge’s classic: The Ironies of Automation And, as always, visit our website or send us email at: thisisfine.softwarepodcast@gmail.com to send us questions!

Episode 3 - lions, tigers and metrics, oh my! 04.12.2024

We answered a set of questions about how to deal with dashboards and MTTR and how to make the best of the situation with the help of special guest Vanessa Huerta Granda.

Episode 2 - Does Software Need Safety? 21.11.2024

We talk to the pioneer of resilience engineering in the software world John Allspaw about how he discovered this world, and we answer a reader question together: does software need safety? Correction: we thought this would be episode 3, but it ended up being 2, because of scheduling conflicts with guests... You can submit your questions at www.thisisfinepod.com ⁠ thisisfine.softwarepodcast@gmail.c...

Episode 1 - Every Second Counts 07.11.2024

The introduction episode of This is Fine! A podcast about resilience engineering in the software world. Clint and Colette discuss conferences and a little bit of their history. Then they answer a question from a (prospective) listener: How do you politely ask executives/senior members of a company to step away from an incident...?

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