Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
Thinking LSAT
Ben Olson and Nathan Fox started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review, and 3) send us questions: help@thinkinglsat.com. Don't pay for law school! Learn more at lsatdemon.com
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Fewer Jobs for New JDs (Ep. 466) 05.08.2024 1:04:57
Recent law school graduates have benefited from a hot hiring market, but there are signs that the market might be cooling off. Nathan and Ben consider the implications for future law students. Later, the guys affirm the importance of applying early. They discuss prediction strategy for Must Be True questions. And they advise students not to flag questions on timed sections. Study with our Free Pla...
Embrace Score Variance (Ep. 465) 29.07.2024 1:08:00
Score variance isn’t a problem—it’s an opportunity. Nathan and Ben encourage LSAT students to pursue the upside of their score range by taking the test multiple times. The guys also share a key to getting faster at Reading Comprehension. They assure a conflicted student that it’s OK to pivot away from law school. And they lay out an approach to Logical Reasoning that balances caution and confidenc...
Am I Ready to Take the LSAT? (Ep. 464) 22.07.2024 1:12:30
The LSAT is a rigorous test of reading comprehension and critical reasoning. Do you understand the information on the page? And do you know what must be true on the basis of that information? Also on the show, Nathan and Ben discuss GPA addendums, supplemental essays, and law school price discrimination. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 464 on YouTube 3:24 - When Am I Re...
The "Perfect" Personal Statement (Ep. 463) 15.07.2024 1:10:43
Your LSAT and GPA are the most important parts of your law school application, but a strong personal statement can set you apart from other applicants with similar numbers. What makes for a well-crafted personal statement? This week, Nathan and Ben pull no punches as they critique a listener’s essay through the eyes of harried admissions officers. The guys also delve into Logical Reasoning predict...
Why Did I Score Lower on Test Day? (Ep. 462) 08.07.2024 59:26
Every LSAT score release day leaves some frustrated test takers wondering: “Why did I score so much lower than on my practice tests?” This week, Nathan and Ben discuss the number one reason why some people underperform on test day. The guys also celebrate listeners’ success on the June LSAT. They question the viability of applying to law school with a GRE score but no LSAT. And they express a wish...
The LSAT Makes Perfect Sense (Ep. 461) 01.07.2024 59:08
There is no second best on the LSAT. On every question, one answer is definitely right, and four answers are definitely wrong. This week, Nathan and Ben discuss why a no-nonsense mindset is vital to LSAT success. Later, the guys compare lawyers to professional students. They question the value of law school consultants. And they explain why nothing on your law school application will make up for a...
From Big Law to Tech CEO (Jackie Schafer) (Ep. 460) 24.06.2024 42:51
Jacqueline Schafer is the founder and CEO of Clearbrief , an AI-powered legal writing tool that helps lawyers search their discovery for relevant facts and cite them in legal documents. Jackie joins Ben for a conversation about what aspiring lawyers should know about the future of AI in legal tech. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 460 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon Yo...
Are You Reviewing Properly? (Ep. 459) 17.06.2024 58:55
Some LSAT students think that more time studying equals faster improvement. But the equation isn’t that simple. This week, Nathan and Ben advocate a less-is-more approach to LSAT study, centered on carefully reviewing one mistake at a time. The guys also discuss lawyers’ work-life balance, highlighting in Reading Comprehension, and the importance of an applicant’s undergraduate major in law school...
The Cost of Applying Late (Ep. 458) 10.06.2024 1:07:45
How important is it to apply early? According to a recent study published in the University of Chicago Journal of Law and Economics , “an application delay of 100 days is associated with a drop in the probability of admission of around 8.5 percentage points—a disadvantage comparable to lowering the applicant’s undergraduate GPA by .26 or LSAT score by 2.1 points.” Ben and Nathan crunch the numbers...
Don't Become a Lawyer for the Prestige (Ep. 457) 03.06.2024 1:25:50
Why do you want to become a lawyer? If you’re chasing prestige, then you might want to reconsider. This week, Ben and Nathan critique several common but misguided reasons people give for wanting to become lawyers. Later, the guys reveal the key to getting faster on the LSAT. They counsel a waitlist-bound applicant to reapply next cycle. And they discuss whether the loss of LG will change the way t...
Start Networking Now (Rachel Gezerseh) (Ep. 456) 27.05.2024 47:02
Ben and Nathan are joined again by Rachel Gezerseh, trial attorney and the author of The Law Career Playbook . Rachel previews the new edition of her book, which will include updated recommendations for Zoom interviews and online networking. Later, the guys describe a typical LSAT study schedule, and they explore the multiple benefits of taking a gap year before applying to law school. LSAT Demon...
Is the LSAT Getting Harder? (Ep. 455) 20.05.2024 1:07:16
LSAT scores are on the rise. The total number of applicants scoring 170 or higher has more than doubled since 2015. This week, Ben and Nathan weigh in on what’s driving this trend and whether LSAC might make the test more difficult in response. Later, the guys discuss how much time they spend reading RC passages. They advise listeners not to apply early decision. And they help a student move on fr...
Five Misguided 1L Study Tips (Angela Vorpahl) (Ep. 454) 13.05.2024 1:22:57
1L strategy coach Angela Vorpahl returns to Thinking LSAT to discuss five common but misguided pieces of advice for incoming law students. She explains why these conventional 1L strategies fall short and suggests more effective alternatives. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 454 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 3:08 - Class Prep vs. Exam Prep - Law professors ins...
Overcoming a Score Plateau (Ep. 453) 06.05.2024 50:14
Ben and producer Erik team up to offer guidance on overcoming a score plateau. One key tip: Don’t fixate on your practice test scores. Later, Ben and Erik debunk the rumor that applicants hurt their admissions chances when they withdraw and reapply. They examine law schools’ employment outcome disclosures. And they discuss what it means to overthink the correct answer—and how to stop. LSAT Demon L...
AI and the Future of Law School (Nick Hafen) (Ep. 452) 29.04.2024 1:07:31
Ben and Nathan chat with Nick Hafen, the Head of Legal Technology Education at BYU Law. They discuss what law students should know about leveraging generative AI tools like ChatGPT in law school and beyond. The guys also review a tip for managing test anxiety, and they explain why they don’t diagram in Logical Reasoning. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 452 Thinking LSA...
Who Pays Tuition at Campbell Law School? (Ep. 451) 22.04.2024 1:17:43
Many law students pay nowhere near full tuition. Some pay no tuition at all. Law schools don’t offer reduced or waived tuition fees out of generosity—it’s a calculated business strategy. But this week, Nathan and Ben discover a law school whose outlandish scholarship numbers seem to defy business sense. The guys also discuss the new US News law school rankings, help listeners choose between law sc...
Biden Cuts Debt, Tuition Keeps Soaring (Ep. 450) 15.04.2024 56:17
Tuitions are soaring at U.S. colleges and universities, and short-sighted student loan policies may be partly to blame. This week, Ben and Nathan discuss the latest round of student loan forgiveness, which treats the symptoms of high education costs but won’t fix the problem. The guys also correct a common misconception about “test-optional” admissions. They consider the scholarship chances of app...
Advice for Test Week (Ep. 449) 08.04.2024 58:04
The April LSAT is almost here. How should test-takers approach the final days leading up to their official test? Nathan and Ben advise listeners to treat test week like any other week of unhurried LSAT prep. Later, the guys explain why you shouldn’t skip tough questions. They shake their heads at UC Law SF’s solicitations. And they offer words of encouragement to a student who is concerned about h...
Admissions Cycle Takeaways (Ep. 448) 01.04.2024 1:14:22
Micah McCreary is an LSAT coach and law school admissions consultant through his company JurisPrep . He’s also a former LSAT Demon student and current 2L at Harvard Law School. Micah joins Ben and Nathan to share insights about the current admissions cycle, emphasizing the importance of a well-crafted diversity statement. The guys also discuss Micah’s experience at Harvard, the challenges of worki...
Without a Graeme of Evidence (Ep. 447) 25.03.2024 53:15
Two weeks ago, Ben and Nathan revealed a shadow ban targeting LSAT Demon on Reddit. The sole moderator of the r/LSAT subreddit, Graeme Blake from LSAT Hacks, responded with personal attacks and false accusations of “sockpuppeting.” He then banned LSAT Demon entirely. This week, Nathan and Ben recap the strange saga and question Graeme’s motives for attempting to silence LSAT Demon and its supporte...
Are LSAT Accommodations Unfair? (Ep. 446) 18.03.2024 55:00
Testing accommodations are meant to give students with documented disabilities a fair shot. But recent LSAT scoring data suggests that the current time-and-a-half minimum might not level the playing field—it might give an unfair advantage to people with accommodations. Ben and Nathan discuss the problematic state of LSAT accommodations and what it means for students. Later, the guys weigh the cost...
About that r/LSAT Shadow Ban (Ep. 445) 11.03.2024 1:05:56
Love it or hate it, the r/LSAT subreddit is a popular forum for LSAT news and advice. Unfortunately, LSAT Demon students have been unable to engage fully with this community for almost a year. Their posts and comments about the Demon are secretly banned. Ben and Nathan recount the curious back story of LSAT Demon’s shadow ban on Reddit and ask for listeners’ advice. Later, the guys discuss upcomin...
The LSAT Is Easy (Ep. 444) 04.03.2024 58:24
When Ben and Nathan say “the LSAT is easy,” it’s not to suggest that LSAT improvement comes effortlessly. This week, the guys elaborate on their motto. The LSAT becomes easy when you do it the Demon way. Later, the guys discuss strategies for negotiating scholarships with schools that claim not to engage in such discussions. They offer advice to a listener battling fatigue at the end of Reading Co...
What It Takes to Score 175 (Ep. 443) 26.02.2024 1:34:26
What does it take to score 170 on the LSAT? A mastery of the English language, sharply honed reasoning skills, and a strong work ethic. But with the increasing trend of scores surpassing 170 in recent years, maybe we should now ask: What does it take to score 175? This week, Nathan and Ben explore the habits and traits of those who excel at the highest levels on the LSAT. The guys also contemplate...
Don't Become a Lawyer for the Money (Ep. 442) 19.02.2024 1:20:59
Many prospective lawyers dream of big law salaries. Far fewer achieve them. Ben and Nathan examine the disappointing reality of big law placement at non-elite law schools and insist that money is a terrible reason to pursue a legal career. The guys also warn listeners not to let application accoutrements distract from the LSAT. They reject a backward approach to Logical Reasoning. And they denounc...
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