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Jeff and Phil welcome back Tze Chun, showrunner behind not one, but two new shows: the animated prequel series GREMLINS: SECRETS OF THE MOGWAI and the Boots Riley-created absurdist coming-of-age comedy I'M A VIRGO. He talks about spinning new lore from a classic franchise, putting Chinese characters at the center ("unless otherwise noted"), getting to tell "weird" stories about people of color, an...

Jeff and Phil welcome two of the legions of Asian American women of a certain age who were named after journalist Connie Chung: writer Connie Wang , whose New York Times piece "Generation Connie" put a spotlight on this phenomenon, and cartoonist Connie Sun , one of the many namesakes of the trailblazing newswoman who participated in the "Con Con." They talk about this unique sisterhood, the aspir...

Jeff and Phil welcome writer Sarah Kuhn and artist Arielle Jovellanos, whose new original DC young adult graphic novel GIRL TAKING OVER: A LOIS LANE STORY re-imagines Lois Lane as an Asian American teen tackling a summer internship in the big city. They talk about finding your people, putting an Asian American twist on a beloved legacy character, the dreaded drawing of cars and crowds, and re-dire...

Jeff and Phil welcome Shin Yu Pai, award-winning poet, museologist, and host of TEN THOUSAND THINGS, a podcast about modern-day artifacts of Asian American life. They discuss the personal objects and collections that say who we are and where we've been, from Rep. Andy Kim's now-famous blue suit to our precious stuffed loved ones. They also play a special show-and-tell version of The Good, The Bad...

Jeff and Phil welcome amazing sibling duo Alex and Maia Shibutani, two-time Olympic medalist ice dancers and authors of the children's picture book AMAZING: ASIAN AMERICANS AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS WHO INSPIRE US ALL. They discuss their unique journey growing up as brother/sister teammates on the ice, their evolution as role models and community advocates, and The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of workin...

Jeff and Phil welcome Vivian Yoon, host and writer of the podcast K-Pop Dreaming from LAist Studios, a journey through the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, mapped against Vivian's own coming-of-age as a second generation Korean American in Los Angeles. They talk about some of the unknown stories behind K-pop's ascent, how diasporic Korean identity has always been in conversation wit...

Jeff and Phil welcome back the Bruce Crew, perennial favorite guests Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of DIASPORA, to slice, dice and discuss the Netflix series BEEF. They talk about the evolution and future of Asian American storytelling, the seductive appeal of the worship leader oppa, and what happens when Asian American character are allowed to be their whole, messy, sp...

Jeff and Phil welcome Susie An and Esther Yoon-Ji Kang, hosts of WBEZ Chicago's Shoes Off: A Sexy Asians Podcast. They talk about scheming up the podcast as a shameless, naked excuse to talk to sexy Asians; the public radio hoops they had to jump through to get it made; and why listeners in search of "bold sexual discourse" might be disappointed. And of course, they discuss The Good, The Bad, and...

Recorded the day after the 95th Academy Awards, Jeff and Phil welcome perennial favorite guests Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of DIASPORA to debrief and discuss a historic night at the Oscars, for Everything Everywhere All at Once, Michelle Yeoh, Ke Huy Quan, Daniels -- and Asians in general.

Jeff and Phil welcome Yoko Okumura, Midori Francis and Jolene Purdy, the director and stars, respectively, of the horror/thriller UNSEEN. They discuss the challenges of crafting a story about two people connecting via FaceTime; the unique storytelling dynamic that occurs when a movie, not originally conceived as an Asian American story, is told by a director and two leads who happen to be Japanese...

Jeff and Phil revisit the film EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE, now in the thick of awards season and on the cusp of Oscars glory, with an epic super-sized compilation of their previous conversations with Ke Huy Quan, Stephanie Hsu, Daniel Kwan, and of course, Michelle Yeoh -- who now all happen to be Academy Award nominees.

Jeff and Phil welcome Eric Nguyen and Scott Burman, creators of WHITE SAVIOR, a hilarious comic book spoof of white savior stories (à la The Last Samurai, The Great Wall). They talk about their creative partnership, the unique confidence of white guys, and why the time was right for a samurai skewering of this tired and tiring narrative trope.

Jeff and Phil break format and take a moment to react to the mass shootings in Monterey Park and Half Moon Bay. This one's kind of raw.

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Aneesh Chaganty, writer/director of the hit thriller SEARCHING, and writer/producer of its follow-up feature MISSING. He talks about why 2018's Searching is now a period piece, the seemingly simple but actually super-complicated process of telling a story that unfolds entirely on screens, and why he and the team are not in any rush (for now) to make a third movie in...

Jeff and Phil welcome the new year with one last look back at the year that was, in the kind of super-sized conversation they only reserve for two of their perennially favorite guests: Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of Diaspora. They discuss personal developments, the tired and tiring buzzwords of diversity, and finally falling to COVID-19. They also go three rounds of a...

Jeff and Phil welcome former intelligence officer, security expert, writer/producer and amateur chef(!) Rodney Faraon. In the final episode of an extremely tumultuous year, they discuss a wide range of topics, including Twitter's sad plunge into the toilet, the mishandling of top secret secrets, what it's like to have your CIA career inspire a TV series starring Katherine Heigl, and why risotto is...

Jeff and Phil welcome singer-songwriter Elizabeth Chan, the world's only full-time recording artist dedicated to original Christmas music -- and still, legally, the "Queen of Christmas." She talks about her prolific output of Christmas music -- an album a year for the past twelve years and counting --  her trademark victory over Mariah Carey to keep the crown, and what it's like to have the holida...

Jeff and Phil welcome champion pool player Jeanette Lee, subject of the ESPN documentary 30 FOR 30: JEANETTE LEE VS., and director Ursula Liang. They discuss the career and legacy of the "Black Widow" in professional billiards and beyond, overcoming pain and pressure from all sides when life knocks you down, and approaching the pool table with confidence, swagger, and your whole, authentic, black-...

Jeff and Phil welcome comedian Atsuko Okatsuka, who stars in her first HBO comedy special THE INTRUDER. She talks about the actual and metaphorical intruders that inspired her act, going really really really viral on TikTok with the "drop" challenge, blurring the personal and private on stage, and why her grandma deserved a lap dance at Magic Mike Live. This episode sponsored by the U.S. Departmen...

Jeff and Phil welcome some good friends from the Potluck Podcast Collective: Ada Tseng (Los Angeles Times, Saturday School), Scott Okamoto (Asians in Baseball, Chapel Probation), and Kim Cooper (Asians in Baseball, Korean Drama Podcast) to celebrate "friendsgiving" and play a very special Thanksgiving edition of everybody's favorite roundtable segment: Thanks, No Thanks and WTF.

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker David Siev, director of the documentary BAD AXE, a pandemic portrait of his own family in rural Michigan as they fight to keep their American dream alive. He talks about telling his family's story through the lens of America's very real and very current racial tensions, dealing with actual local white supremacists, and making a documentary that weirdly folded in on...

Jeff and Phil welcome back award-winning actor and writer Maulik Pancholy, who talks about his latest middle grade novel NIKHIL OUT LOUD, a sweet coming-of-age story about a gay Indian American teen. He talks about the anti-gay backlash he received for his first book THE BEST AT IT that inspired this new novel, what it's like to get your book banned by school districts, and the important question...

Jeff and Phil welcome Raymond Lee, star of NBC's sci-fi drama QUANTUM LEAP. He talks about leaping into the lead role of a lifetime, subverting the notion that time travel is for white people, and why being great at nothing but passably good at a lot of things is perfect for playing Dr. Ben Song.

Jeff and Phil welcome Jay Chen, who is running for the U.S. House of Representatives in California's congressional 45th district. He talks about why his Daily Show appearance from 2010 still weirdly remains relevant, his opponent's increasingly shameless xenophobic and red-baiting attacks, and the benefit of running for congress in a super-Asian district that has so many incredible food options.

Jeff and Phil welcome Kevin Tancheroen, executive producer and director of the Netflix series THAI CAVE RESCUE, which tells the true story of the global rescue effort to save twelve young boys and their soccer coach from a flooded cave. He talks about shooting in absurdly wet conditions, reconnecting with his own Thai roots, and prioritizing the soccer team (and the people of Thailand) at the cent...