Joanna Grossman and Andy Julow
There's No "A" in Creemee
Joanna Grossman and Andy Julow team up for There’s No “A” in Creemee: Vermont Politics, Culture, & Beyond. The show will discuss VT politics and culture from two seasoned insiders. The show crosses Vermont’s deep cultural divides: rural / urban, male / female, working class / elite, red / blue district all through the lens of a deep friendship.
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Joanna Grossman and Andy Julow
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Activism, Jellyfish, Cocktails, & Ice Cream 05.08.2025 49:55
From grassroots movements to jellyfish diplomacy Joanna and Andy talk about the rise of activism in Vermont and why it's happening outside of the Democratic party. Joanna also recounts her most recent encounter with a stinging sea monster, but insists the jellyfish is blameless and likely misunderstood. In a return of our popular Last Licks segment, Andy retaliates against Joanna's ruthles...
Capitol Beginnings: A Legislator’s First Year with Representative Doug Bishop 29.07.2025 53:20
Representative Doug Bishop fills in for a vacationing Joanna, sharing stories from his first year on the House floor. Doug and Andy swap memorable moments from the campaign trail, and Doug reflects on the challenges of adjusting to the early days of the legislative session and finding his rhythm as a new lawmaker Joanna calls into the show to make sure Doug isn't getting too comfortable in her cha...
The Case for the Ed. Bill: Sen Kesha Ram Hinsdale & Rep Teddy Waszazak 22.07.2025 39:31
This week Senator Kesha Ram Hinsdale of Chittenden Southeast, and Representative Teddy Waszazak of Barre City, join us to speak out about their decision to vote yes on the Education Bill after it came out of conference committee on June 16th. We discuss the factors that played into the decision, what they are hearing from their constituents, and the shortcomings of Vermont's current education...
Phoenix Rising: An Independent Bookstore's Fight Against the Oligarchy, with Mike & Katie DeSanto 15.07.2025 48:05
Mike and Katie DeSanto, owners of Phoenix Books , share their journey in opposing the construction of a massive 107,000 square foot Amazon warehouse in Essex . They discuss the vital role of keeping dollars local, the community support that independent businesses foster, and the essence of entrepreneurship. In the opening segment, Andy and Joanna discuss their experiences with Development Review B...
Howard Dean: Passing the Torch, Powering the Future. A conversation on Party Renewal, Vermont Values, and Generational Change. 08.07.2025 49:05
We talk with former Vermont Governor and DNC Chair Howard Dean about the current state of the Democratic Party, the unique political culture of Vermont, and why it's time for his generation to make space for new leadership. He also shares his thoughts on the end of the Vermont Legislative session, what it means to be a Vermonter, his favorite creemee spot, and books everyone should read to und...
The Democratic Opposition Speaks out on the Ed Bill: Sen Martine Gulick & Rep Erin Brady 01.07.2025 50:15
This week two educator-legislators, Senator Martine Gulick of Chittenden Central, and Representative Erin Brady of Williston, join us to speak out about their decision to vote no on the Education Bill after it came out of conference committee on June 16th. These two passionate education policymakers go deep with us about how they came to that choice and what went down in the statehouse. We discuss...
Secretary of State Sarah Copeland Hanzas & Legislative Recap 24.06.2025 42:00
Secretary of State Sarah Copeland Hanzas joins the podcast to discuss the elections bill , The Kid Governor Program, office initiatives, and voter security . She also shares her thoughts on what it means to be a Vermonter and, of course, her favorite creemee order. In the opening segment, Andy and Joanna break down the activity from the June 16th legislative session , including the drama sur...
What's a "real Vermonter?" 17.06.2025 44:30
Are Vermonters born, or are they forged through mud, snow, and ice? We asked some of Vermont's political and community leaders what being a real Vermonter means to them. Andy and Joanna share their own perspectives but end up debating the proper way to merge on the interstate. In our opening segment Joanna gets philosophical about her elderberry tree while Andy discovers the surprising lack of...
Becca White 10.06.2025 42:49
Senator Becca White drops by the podcast to share her thoughts on the session, climate policy, immigration, and transportation. Joanna and Senator White take a deep dive on statehouse style, while Andy tries to think of something smart to say but ultimately decides not to speak. Senator White gives us her creemee order and in our opening segment Andy continues to complain about getting wet at a go...
Roosters & Housing Bills 03.06.2025 54:43
We explore the housing bill, now on its way to the Governor’s desk, and examine the recent events that have caused a stalemate in the education bill. In our opening segment, Andy talks about his ongoing feud with a local rooster and his lingering resentment over getting drenched at a golf tournament. Joanna and her husband introduce the Julows to the world of oysters. In our "Last Licks"...
Charity Clark 27.05.2025 39:15
Charity Clark joins us! Vermont’s Attorney General stops by to discuss her lawsuits against the Trump administration, her favorite hikes, how parenting influences her role, and her top creemee choices. We get into voter protections, citizenship challenges, how Vermonters can help preserve democracy, and community in Vermont. In the opening segment Joanna and Andy talk about the latest twist in th...
Vermont's Education Finance Predicament 20.05.2025 44:59
Join Joanna Grossman, Chair of the Chittenden County Democrats, and former State Senator Andy Julow as they explore all things Vermont—politics, culture, and beyond. In this episode, we'll recap a week that saw Joanna and Andy in the same Statehouse committee room—but sitting at different lunch tables. For our Hot Toppings segment, we'll take a deep dive into education funding, including the origi...
It all Started in a Bike Shop 13.05.2025 51:12
We're podcasters now! Join Joanna Grossman, Chair of the Chittenden County Democrats and Former State Senator Andy Julow as they explore all things Vermont Politics, Culture, and Beyond In this episode we'll catch up on our weeks at the statehouse and traveling, discuss the challenges of pivoting the message for Democrats after the election losses of 2024, share our backgrounds, campaign story, or...
There's No "A" in Creemee Trailer 07.05.2025 1:02
We're podcasters now! Join Joanna Grossman, Chair of the Chittenden County Democrats and Former Vermont State Senator Andy Julow as they explore all things Vermont Politics, Culture, and Beyond
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