Two Pastors and a Dieken
Theologic
Christian Thinking is Biblical Thinking. This is what your hosts Sean, Zach, and Zac strive to bring you with every upload. With each topical episode, you get hard hitting, sound, and Bible centered discussions. Each interview presents explanations from specialists on Biblical topics. Each debate brings Sean and Zac head to head on topics on which they disagree. Ponder scripture along with them, be challenged to think, and be blessed to live rightly as a result. Topical Episodes and Theologic Bites drop Weekly, Interviews drop on the 30th of every month, and Debates drop once a quarter. Check...
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Jul 28, 2025
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On the End of New Testament Sign Gifts: An Interview with David Lovi Narrator and Writer of the "Cessationist" Documentary 30.12.2023 1:29:09
In our current era, debate rages on the topic of whether or not the sign gifts of the New Testament have ceased. Are there miraculous sign gifts given to men today? How is that different from saying that miracles happen or don't happen today? Where are all the true bona fide healings that are purported to have happened around the world? What does the scripture have to say about it? In this m...
048: How A Christian Prepares to Serve in Government 25.12.2023 40:19
It is our last topical episode of 2023! It's also a Christmas day drop! As you all enjoy the day remembering Christ's birth, our host Zach Dieken is gearing up for his next session time in the Iowa House of Representatives. Next month Zach goes to Des Moines to engage in the spiritual battle, we ask him: What is session? How do you get prepared? We want to encourage you to pray for Him...
Christmas Bonus: Our Hilarious Sneak Peek at our December Interviewee 13.12.2023 11:35
The following is a clip from our December 30 interview with David Lovi, narrator and writer for the "Cessationist" documentary. You will hear his voice in the documentary should you check it out but you may not know that he has an especially hilarious Steve Lawson impression. As a sneak peak to our interview, David Lovi tells us some hilarious stories from seminary. We pray you all have...
047: Breaking the Barrier Between Church and State 11.12.2023 39:35
As Sean is on vacation, the two Zachs engage on the topic of religion and politics. How do we respond to the common charges that Christian beliefs need to be out of the public political arena? What leads Zach Dieken as a Christian to enter into public office in the Iowa House, fight the evils of abortion, and seek to reach the Iowa capital for Christ? As the two Zachs engage the topic, may you be...
Shining A Bright Biblical Light on Roman Catholicism: An Interview with Mike Gendron from Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries 30.11.2023 55:09
Listen in as our hosts interview Evangelist to Catholics Mike Gendron. As they explore the main pillars of Catholicism and bring its beliefs into the light of scripture, you may be surprised at what you find. Check out Mike Gendron here: https://www.proclaimingthegospel.org/ Support the show
046: Before You Reject the Faith, Listen to This. 27.11.2023 38:16
This episode matters for your loved ones. It may even matter directly to you. We live in an era where there are many who are falling away from the faith. Be it a child of a believer who left Christianity for popular cultural teachings or you yourself are asking some deep and heart-wrenching questions about your faith. This episode is for you. As your hosts discuss the issue of "Deconstruction...
045: The Gospel According to Foolishness 13.11.2023 32:19
A Christian might consider this insulting: "You believe foolish things." But did you know that the Bible itself has "foolishness" as a description of its own message? It is truly no badge of shame to believe the Gospel of Foolishness when we consider the alternative. Listen in as Sean and the two Zach's pull apart this foolish message and why it is called that in the page...
044: There is Something About Catholic Mary... 30.10.2023 32:41
There is a problem to be sure. Marian dogma according to the Catholic faith has hair raising implications for Jesus' sufficiency to save and maintain our salvation. Was Mary "immaculately conceived?" Did she also suffer for our sins? Is she currently mediating for sinners? Was her body assumed into heaven? The answers to these questions and more have serious implications for the gos...
Theologic Talks with an Infant Baptizer: An Interview with Pastor Brian Janssen from Hospers Presbyterian Church 30.10.2023 49:00
Believe it or not, one can be a godly Christian and yet still disagree on the timing of baptism. For our Baptist hosts, they remain staunchly holding to the belief that scripture teaches only those who have professed faith in Christ should be baptized. But why do other godly Christians believe differently? Enter Pastor Brian Janssen for his third interview. As we relate our disagreements, it is im...
043: The Puzzle of Essential, Urgent, and Important Beliefs 16.10.2023 37:47
What separates true Christianity from something else? What separates Christian denominations? Do they matter? Should there be separation and does that always mean that Christians aren't unified? These are questions that have stumped many Christians. . Though no one has by any means figured these things out perfectly, there are some things we can know for sure. Listen in as your hosts give the...
042: Theologic Goes to the G3 Conference 02.10.2023 35:04
Your hosts just returned from their trip to G3. This episode is an update. Thank you for listening and supporting Theologic! Support the show
The Great Law Debate: The New Testament Believer is No Longer Bound to the Old Testament Law in Practice. 30.09.2023 1:42:30
We once again engage in another scriptural sparring session where Sean and Zac clash their swords together to get at the truth of scripture. The topic on the table: Do the commands in the Old Testament Law have direct bearing on the life of the Christian? If so, how much of it does? All of it? If not, can we just do anything we want in Christ? Support the show
Speaking with Grace and Truth to King James Onlyism: An Interview with Author and YouTuber Mark Ward 30.09.2023 47:36
It has become a topic of contention and debate over the past century. What translation of the Bible do you use? Is the King James the only translation worthy of your personal reading and study? What do we do with all of these other English translations out there? How do we deal with the often unkind treatment brought by those who contend for King James Onlyism? Mark Ward, Author and YouTuber, has...
041: Where Would We be Without the Wrath of God? 18.09.2023 32:57
Not a very exciting topic for most people: The wrath of God. In truth, this is not something God is zealous to express (Ezekiel 33:11). Yet it is important to note that God will bring His wrath for the long term good of a society that is deeply evil. As our hosts delve into the topic, you may be surprised to note the fullness of what scripture says concerning God and His wrath. Support the show
040: Does Repentance Mean that We're Saved by our Works? 04.09.2023 39:42
There are those who would defend a "cheap grace" gospel by claiming anything else is salvation by human merit through works. In this episode, Sean and the two Zachs explain why repentance is NOT a work that somehow gains God's favor and why it is an essential characteristic of gospel preaching and Christian conversion. Listen in and be challenged and blessed with the details. Suppo...
Knowing Your Own History: An Interview with Jake Stone from the Generally Particular Podcast 30.08.2023 44:00
None of us live in a vacuum. That is not a statement on the nature of our dwelling places but on the nature of our existence itself. Each one of us came into history at a certain point and prior to our personal existence, there was history worthy to be remembered. Join Sean and Patke as they interview Jake Stone: historian and host of the Generally Particular Podcast. As they engage in their own d...
039: God's Grace is NOT Free, It Cost Him His Son 21.08.2023 40:45
Cultural Christianity. This is the term that our Theologic hosts use to describe an external Christianity but not a truly saving one and not truly a genuine one. As J.C. Ryle notes, "A religion that costs nothing is worth nothing. A cheap Christianity without a cross, will prove in the end a useless Christianity, without a crown." Listen in as our hosts seek to end cultural Christianity...
038: Can We Really Say that Christ Died for Everyone? 07.08.2023 37:18
Debate has ensued throughout church history asking the questions: Did Christ die for all? What do we do with texts that say that Christ died for all? In what way is Jesus' death for the world? In what way is it for those who believe? Listen in as the Theologic guys hash this out. Support the show
The Chilling Fate of Babylon's King: An Interview with Dr. Tim Little from FBTS on Isaiah 13-14 30.07.2023 44:15
Sean and Patke have Dr. Tim Little on again to discuss an Old Testament text that some might consider obscure. One thing is certain, there is much disagreement amongst scholars on the identity of this man. Who was this King of Babylon? Was he Nebuchadnezzar of Daniel? Was he some king from ancient Assyria? Dr. Little wrote a book on this topic. You may be surprised with Dr. Little's conclusio...
037: Movie Review: The Sound of Freedom 24.07.2023 36:58
"God's children are not for sale." This is the heart behind the producers of the movie "The Sound of Freedom," which tells the true story of the heartbreaking reality of human trafficking in the world today of which the United States is one of the greatest consumers. Your hosts saw the movie and give their review in this episode. There are NO spoilers ahead so please feel...
036: Zach Dieken Grills Sean and Patke on their Debate 10.07.2023 31:58
After the last debate, Zach Dieken ran out of time to ask some questions that he was curious about concerning the the topic of the "Man of Lawlessness." Tune in as he grills Sean and Patke on the topic. Perhaps you had some of the same questions. If you haven't listened in on the last debate check it out here: https://theologic.buzzsprout.com/1892787/13112525-the-great-antichrist-de...
The Future Hope of the American Church: A Conversation with Joel Willoughby from the Brains and Bibles Podcast 30.06.2023 1:07:34
As Independence Day draws near, Patke sits down once again with Joel Willoughby from the Brains, Bibles, and Beyond Podcast to discuss the future of the American Church. What great things are in store for her and the church everywhere? What trends are on the way? Support the show
The Great Antichrist Debate: Who is Paul's "Man of Lawlessness" in 2 Thessalonians 2? 26.06.2023 1:28:35
Turn in your Bibles to 2 Thessalonians 2 and take a look at the first ten verses. Here is a text that is perhaps puzzling to the average reader. Who is this man of lawlessness? When did he live? Is he in our past? Is he in our future? Listen in as Patke and Sean have a formal debate concerning the identity of this man. Can we know who he was, is, or will be? Where does he fit in our understanding...
035: Biblical Family, Biblical Church 26.06.2023 34:54
One word: Responsibility. Something missing from the vocabulary of many modern parents. For this reason, much gets deferred to other sources that were not designed to take on the role of raising children up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. As Sean and Patke engage the topic, they ask their listeners, "Does your marriage look like a biblical marriage? Does your family look like a bib...
034: Unfamiliar Truths from a Very Familiar Text 12.06.2023 35:52
We all know it. Most Christians have memorized it. Yet how well do we know the depths of John 3:16? As your hosts pick apart this text, you very well might be surprised at how deep the simple truths of the verse goes. May we constantly be reminded that there is much to learn even about the simplest truths of the word of God. Support the show
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