By Russ Morgan & Joey Muré
The Wealth Without Wall Street Podcast
Your go-to podcast for uncovering the dirty secrets behind Wall Street and how to take back control of your wealth. The Wall Street mindset separates both families & business owners from their money while the elite and unknown get to use it for their advantage. The secret to achieving this is having your money work for you, not someone else, when wealth building. You can get there through earning passive income. When you have more passive income than you do expenses, you have achieved financial freedom. On this podcast, we work tirelessly toward your financial freedom. We cover topics like the...
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Round Table | How Long Should I Pay my PUA 08.12.2020 38:42
It’s another round table discussion where we break down the topics within the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). Today, we’ll talk about how long you should pay your paid-up additions (PUA) rider. Last time, we talked about what we can do with dividends, one of which is reinvesting it. In essence, you purchase paid-up additions (PUA) using the policy’s dividends instead of premiums. Paid-up additions...
The Accumulation Model vs. The Cash Flow Model with Randy Lawrence 03.12.2020 36:29
#165: If you’ve been working for 40 years and have put money towards your retirement, are you sure it will last? While spending your money over the remaining years of your life, you wonder: Is this all there is to it? The accumulation method is a villain. It taught you to scrimp and save until you have a mountain of money, yet in the end, you still worry that it’s going to run out, creating...
Round Table | What Else Can I Do With My Dividends 01.12.2020 26:56
Today’s topic is about dividends: how they are created and how they can be used. In the book, Building Your Warehouse of Wealth by R. Nelson Nash , the whole life policy is compared to a tree that grows; it can never shrink. You can find evidence of growth in the rings within the tree. And as the tree grows, it bears fruit. Dividends are the fruit of the policy -- the surplus or the return on prem...
Our Passive Income Report - October 2020 26.11.2020 33:03
#164: There’s an emotional component to money. Volatility is not just about returns but what it does to you personally. There’s always this question of “Is your money ever enough?” One of our favorite topics is sharing our monthly passive income report and what we’ve been doing. As we always talk about in Wealth Without Wall Street, none of it is about timing. It’s all about cash flow. Here...
Round Table | Nelson Nash - The History of the IBC Concept 24.11.2020 48:46
It’s Thanksgiving Week, and we’d like to thank the man who introduced a completely different concept in the insurance industry -- the Infinite Banking Concept or IBC. We’ve been discussing IBC in this podcast, but today we’ll share an interview last May 2018 with this great man, our IBC mentor, R. Nelson Nash. A former forester, airline pilot, and life insurance advisor, Nelson discovered IB...
Generating Passion Income by Doing What You Love with Brian Ellwood 19.11.2020 38:05
#163: Is there a way to stop trading your time for money and spend time doing the things you love? If time is our most valuable asset, how do we track it? How much time do you spend working? How can you take back control of your time? Today, we learn more about this idea with Brian Ellwood, host of 12 Houses To Freedom , the podcast that shows you how to create passive income so you can pursue you...
Round Table 19: Is Index Universal Life Insurance Good for IBC 17.11.2020 33:05
Is IUL or Index Universal Life Insurance good for IBC? We’ll answer this in today’s round table. First, let’s try to understand the context of IUL and IBC. IUL is essentially a risk mitigation tool providing “upside potential with downside protection.” It is built on universal life insurance and meant to offset or compete with what’s happening in the market. IUL provides a constant rate of return...
The Value of Going to College | BYOB Book Review part 16 12.11.2020 44:23
#162: Why do people go to college? Is it a must? To continue our review of R. Nelson Nash’s book, Becoming Your Own Banker, let’s talk about the value of college education. People spend a considerable amount of money to go to college, business school, or medical school to learn a skill or get a certification. Taking the cost of a college education into account, is it worth it? Today’s students get...
Round Table | How to Make a Policy 3 Years Old in 18 Months 10.11.2020 27:00
What’s one thing you wish you can do again if you can go back in time? Have you ever wished you’d known something sooner? Why would someone want to go back in time? We’ll answer these questions in relation to infinite banking. We can achieve three years of growth in just 18 months by backdating the policy, a common practice in the insurance industry. Compressing time and accelerating growth is som...
The Profitable Niche of Land Flipping with Adam Southey and Justin Sliva 05.11.2020 35:09
#161: Most people dream of having financial freedom, but get stuck working endless hours in a job until they’re 60! Ready to take control of your life and create a business that is not a job? Tune in to this episode. Today's guests, veteran real estate investors Adam Southey and Justin Sliva, share how they discovered the wildly profitable niche of land flipping as a way to create wealth and live...
Round Table | What A Properly Structured Policy Looks Like 03.11.2020 29:17
What would you have done differently after knowing what you know now? We all have this habit of doing things on our own. We only consult an expert after we’ve messed up. Take the question of what’s the best way to design a policy. Clarity is the key. If you understand the problem, the solution will be clear. You have to identify what’s important to you and why, where you’re headed, and how you’re...
Our Passive Income Report - September 2020 29.10.2020 38:21
#160: Welcome to the continuation of the Wealth Without Wall Street Podcast's Monthly Passive Income Report. This episode we go over our September 2020 passive income streams and show you how we had a 30% percent increase from last month. We discuss why some strategies didn’t work for us, but could still work for you. From taking on more expenses to dealing with neighbors who want us out, we go ov...
From Self Storage to Self-Sustaining with Scott Krone 22.10.2020 34:17
#159: In these times of market uncertainty and job layoffs, no wonder so many people are escaping the 9-5 and seeking financial freedom. Making that decision may be half the battle, but where do you go from there? Today’s guest is Scott Krone, the owner and founder of Coda Management Group. Coda is an international award-winning design and build firm that manages self-storage and other real estate...
Round Table | What is a Term Conversion? 20.10.2020 37:53
When we talk about life insurance, people usually think of a whole life policy—your policy is active until you pass away. This has its benefits, but many people would benefit more from a term life policy. Simply put, a term life policy is active for a designated set of years, which allows it to have lower premiums and the ability to convert into a whole life or infinite banking policy. Most whole...
Round Table | Should I Start a New Policy or Pay Back Policy Loans? 13.10.2020 38:37
Should I start a new policy or pay back my policy loans? It reads like a black or white decision, but it’s more complicated than that. Before you answer that question, answer these: Do you see your policies as assets or expenses? Are you expecting more money soon or not for a while? Is your policy new or old? Are you 30 years old or 5 years from retirement? No decision lives in a vacuum, so there...
Using Real Estate to Make Your Finances Soar with Travis Wood 08.10.2020 31:26
#157: Money is a powerful resource, but nothing is more universal than time. So, what if you have more money than time? You work diligently at your job and are paid well for it, but if you don’t possess the time to reap the benefits, what was the point? Today’s guest is Travis Wood, a full-time airline pilot who loves his job and is compensated well, but he found himself reaching the end of his jo...
Round Table | Paying Taxes Through Your Policy 06.10.2020 36:52
What’s the connection between your life insurance policy and taxes? It’s easy to see these two as existing in different worlds, but they’re more connected than you think. In essence, you can take out a life insurance policy and use its cash flow to pay your taxes. Paying the two separately and directly is a viable option with less complexity. However, by learning the nuances of taxes and insurance...
Feeling Unfulfilled? Develop the Right Mindset W/ Rod Khleif 01.10.2020 34:48
#156: Mindset is Important no matter where you are at in life. It can be helpful whether you’re starting and running a business or if you’re trying to be a better steward of your money at home. Today’s Guest, Rod Khleif, tells his story of great rises and great falls and how he found the true meaning of success. Early on, Rod got everything he wanted. He even bought his dream multi-million dollar...
Round Table | How Can I Pay Premiums? 29.09.2020 39:41
How can I pay premiums? This topic can become an absolute mind-shift. Many new policy holders think about their premiums as an pure expense. "I've got to pay this", "how can I possibly keep this up?" Common feelings like these early into the policy can occur. Simply put, this is entirely a financial tool. A tool to be used like an asset, not an expense. Once you see that, you view your premiums as...
Our Passive Income Report - August 2020 24.09.2020 43:02
#155: Welcome to the continuation of the Wealth Without Wall Street Podcast's Monthly Passive Income Report. This episode we highlight our August 2020 passive income streams. We’re opening up the books and are sharing our actual passive income numbers with you. We want you to see if they’re working and to help inspire you to start today on growing your passive income. If you don’t keep score,...
Round Table | How Policy Loan Interest Works 22.09.2020 37:26
This week’s round table is all-out answering this common question: “Why would I ever want to borrow my own money and pay interest for it?” This is one of the biggest hang-ups about the concept of infinite banking. Spoiler alert - you’re actually not borrowing your money. Listen in and hear how to get clarity on this and many more questions regarding policy loan interest. Disclaimer: The opinions e...
How ATM Machine Investing Works W/ Dave Zook 17.09.2020 33:16
#154: Can ATM’s be a solid investment opportunity? All of us know that feeling of being in a situation where you need immediate access to cash. In those situations, the importance of the need for that cash greatly outweighs the hefty service fee the machine tacks onto the withdrawal. Someone is benefiting from those transactions and today’s interview is with one of those investors, Dave Zook. Dave...
Round Table | Velocity Banking VS IBC 15.09.2020 38:05
Today’s Round Table discussion is a heavy-weight matchup between Velocity Banking and the Infinite Banking Concept. Russ, Joey, Ernie, Mark, and JD all come together to take a deep dive on whether you should build equity inside your mortgage or outside your mortgage and how taking full-control of the process might be the tipping point in one direction. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed on this po...
How to Build a Life Worth Chasing - With Chase Maher 10.09.2020 34:03
#153: How to Build a Life Worth Chasing - With Chase Maher We are trained in American society to get into debt. How can you do the opposite of what the middle-class is trained to do and do what the wealthy know how to do? Even for those who choose to save up and then spend, there are very little ways to get out of the cycle. We should make our earnings go to work for us and if we’re going to...
Round Table | Create Income From Policies 08.09.2020 32:45
In this episode of the Round Table, we’re talking about retirement Income… the infinite-banking way. This is a reminder that we’re creating income streams, not accumulating assets. The building of an asset is the first part of the infinite banking process, and the borrowing against those assets to generate cash flow is the second part of it all. The second part is what might scare people away...
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