Hosted by Charlie and Jason

The Way Out | A Sobriety and Recovery Podcast

The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

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Hosted by Charlie and Jason

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Education

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www.wayoutcast.com

Latest episode

Jul 5, 2026

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Episodes

The Drunken Worm with Carl Fessenden | The Way Out Podcast Episode 262 11.10.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out we have an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, drug counselor, and podcaster Carl Fessenden. Carl has had the opportunity to work with some of the top professionals in the mental health field and has helped hundreds of people overcome addiction in his work as a counselor and now he’s expanding his impact on the recovery community through his ne...

Rise Together with Nadine Machkovech | The Way Out Podcast Episode 261 04.10.2021

In this edition of the extravaganza otherwise known as The Way Out Podcast intrepid and nothing short of spectacular Co-Host Jason interviews Bonafede Recovery powerhouse Nadine Machkovech, who’s on a mission to change the world by igniting change and shining her light in a universe often filled with darkness. She has graced the TEDx stage, was profiled in Forbes, and received national survivor ad...

When God Carries You with Tori Volk | The Way Out Podcast Episode 260 27.09.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out my super-star co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Tori Volk. This conversation with Tori Volk will indeed resonate with anyone, but especially with all you mothers out there in Way Out Podcast Land. It’s challenging enough facing co-occurring disorders, but when you add in some complicated parenting issues, it's truly a mir...

There is no Box with Dino Miliotis | The Way Out Podcast Episode 259 20.09.2021

In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur, author, and gifted storyteller, Dino Miliotis. A self-made millionaire twice over, Dino shares his journey to and through recovery this point with a frankness and candor that is as disarming as it is enlightening. Dino takes us on the rollercoaster ride of his entrepreneurial successes and...

Shane Ramer is That Sober Guy | The Way Out Podcast Episode 258 13.09.2021

In this edition of The Way Out we have recovery podcaster, and person in long term recovery Shane Ramer of That Sober Guy Podcast. I recently had the honor and privilege to share my story on Shane’s podcast and I couldn’t be more grateful to have had the opportunity to welcome Shane to The Way Out Podcast family to share his remarkable story and the spiritual and recovery truth embodied in it, wit...

Recovery Changes Everything with Wesley Verry | The Way Out Podcast Episode 257 06.09.2021

This week the world’s best recovery podcast co-host Jason has a powerful interview with person in long term recovery, Wesley Verry. Wes talks about the utter unmanageability and insanity of his addictions, an insanity that also manifested in his relationships, which led him to be finally broken enough to stop talking and start listening to the solutions he was hearing in the rooms of 12-Step recov...

Role for Recovery with Myles Sandoval | The Way Out Podcast Episode 256 30.08.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out, we have a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, recovery coach, and Phoenix facilitator, Myles Sandoval. Author Johann Hari is credited with coining the phrase “The opposite of addiction isn’t sobriety. It’s connection.” This idea embodies the impetus behind The Phoenix, which is a non-profit organization with the sole purpose to build a sober activ...

The Power of Accountability with Eric Schulz | The Way Out Podcast Episode 255 22.08.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out our recovery co-host with the most Jason has a fantastic interview with Eric Schulz, and in this episode, Jason and Eric had quite the happy accident! After Jason and Eric rescheduled once, they got to celebrate Eric’s one year milestone on his actual clean date! If that isn’t a Higher Power Moment, I don’t know what is. Eric shares his journey with us and all the...

Flourishing After Addiction with Dr. Carl Erik Fisher | The Way Out Podcast Episode 254 15.08.2021

In this edition of The Way Out we have a stellar interview with Clinical Psychiatrist, Addiction Medicine Specialist and Bio Ethicist Dr. Carl Erik Fisher. As a person in long term recovery himself along with his clinical and scholarly work, Carl brings a unique perspective to the treatment of addiction, and the positive change that occurs in recovery. Easily one of the most enlightening and instr...

Timothy Clancy's Road to Sobriety & Personal Success | The Way Out Podcast Episode 253 09.08.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out our steadfast recovery Co-Host Jason’s got a magnificent interview with person in long term recovery and Author, Timothy Clancy who shares with us his road to Sobriety. From rock bottom to ten years of continuous sobriety and counting, Timothy’s journey to and through recovery to this point has been difficult at times, yet exceedingly rewarding at the same time. As...

A Meaningful Life by Design with Kylie Butler | The Way Out Podcast Episode 252 02.08.2021

In this edition of The Way Out Recovery Coach, Entrepreneur, and person in long term recovery Kylie Butler comes to us from Bali to share her journey to and through recovery to this point with a sagacity and intuitiveness that is at once unmistakably authentic and enlightening. Her knock-down drag-out bout with alcoholism is rife with the hallmarks of a classic battle with addiction, not the least...

From Tragedy to Triumph with Aaron Laine | The Way Out Podcast Episode 251 26.07.2021

This week our intrepid co-host Jason has an incredibly entertaining and indeed inspiring interview with Cincinnati radio DJ, host and creator of the wildly popular Tragedy to Triumph podcast, and person in long term recovery, Aaron Laine. Aaron shares openly about his struggle with alcoholism and addiction, subsequent recovery, and what life is like now flourishing in recovery as he uses his God g...

Jason A Comes Back with a Transplant & Recovery Story | The Way Out Podcast Episode 250 19.07.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a Way Out Podcast first with Jason A, who appeared on our very first episode way back in March of 2016 and is the only person we’ve interviewed more than once, and as you’ll learn for very good reason. Much has happened in the span of that 5 plus years and 250 episodes later in the evolution of this podcast as you’ll discover if you dare to venture back t...

Alex McRobs is The Sober Yoga Girl | The Way Out Podcast Episode 249 12.07.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly inspiring and relatable interview with person in long term recovery, and the one and only Sober Yoga Girl, Alex McRobert AKA Alex McRobs for those of you who are social media inclined. Alex, a self-proclaimed and quintessential party girl since high school, shares her journey to and through sobriety to this point, which included addressing h...

Activate Your Powers with Katie Schwartz - The Way Out Podcast Episode 248 05.07.2021

In this edition of The Way Out our magnificent recovery co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Katie Schwartz. Katie shares with us about her unresolved trauma and how it has hindered her attempts at recovery. No doubt many of us can identify with the pain and trauma caused as a result of the many forms that parental abandonment can take. The hit on our self-...

Recovery, Freedom and One Love with Crystal Hill Hover | The Way Out Podcast Episode 247 28.06.2021

In this rendition of The way Out our beloved co-host Jason’s got a whopper of an interview with person in long term recovery Crystal Hill Hover, who is also a mother, wife, owner of 5 sober homes and a recovery wellness center and Gym and if that wasn’t enough, she just earned her Master’s Degree to boot. Crystal's story is extremely inspiring to say the least. She battled against a myriad of pers...

Alex Bales Turns Pain into Purpose | The Way Out Podcast Episode 246 22.06.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a superbly relatable and edifying interview with person in long term recovery and personal trainer turned transformational life coach who specializes in helping people overcome addiction and emotional trauma – Alex Bales. His mission? To help people effortlessly evolve to create a life they love again full of health and joy. Alex’s journey to and through...

That's What Junkies Do with Tommy Figs | The Way Out Podcast Episode 245 14.06.2021

I’m delighted to reassure The Way Out faithful that our beloved co-host Jason is back with a killer interview. It’s been a minute since we’ve heard from Jason, but rest assured Jason is still rocking his recovery. Fact is, Jason was on out on assignment, getting us some more powerful recovery stories such as this one with Author and person in long term recovery, Tommy Figlioli, otherwise known as...

Robert Pardon is The Recovery Guy | The Way Out Podcast Episode 244 07.06.2021

In this edition of The Way Out we bring you an extraordinary interview I had the good fortune of having with The Recovery Guy, Robert Pardon, who just celebrated his 35th year of long-term recovery from alcoholism and addiction, and Hosts The Recovery Guy Podcast and is without question the genuine article. Roberts journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by profound feelings of ina...

Jeff & Debra Jay Reinvent Intervention with Love First - A Family's Guide to Intervention | The Way Out Podcast Episode 243 31.05.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out we have an exceedingly revealing and illuminating discussion with renowned specialists and Authors on Love First Intervention, Jeff and Debra Jay. Both Jeff and Debra are in long term recovery in their own right, Jeff from addiction and alcoholism and Debra from the codependency and family side of recovery. Jeff’s owes his recovery and very life for that matter to...

Dr. Paul Kaloostian on the Science of Addiction and Recovery | The Way Out Podcast Episode 242 24.05.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a fascinating and indeed incredibly illuminating interview on the science of addiction with Neurosurgeon Dr. Paul Kaloostian. Dr. Kaloostian and I discuss the effects addictive substances have on our brain’s reward and memory centers, our physical wellness, and yes, even on our very genetic makeup which dovetails on what we already know about genetic pred...

David Poses and the Truth About his Recovery | The Way Out Podcast Episode 241 17.05.2021

In this installment of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly enlightening and supremely relevant interview with Author of the new book “The Weight of Air – A Story of the Lies About Addiction and the Truth about Recovery” and person in long term recovery, David Poses. David’s story is rooted in the all-too-common dual struggle of having a mental health disorder such as depression and addiction, whic...

From Jail to Joy with Amy Liz Harrison | The Way Out Podcast Episode 240 10.05.2021

In this edition of The Way Out Jason’s got an interview that’s sure to be an instant classic here at The Way Out Podcast with person in long term recovery and author of the new memoir Eternally Expecting: A Mom of Eight Gets Sober and Gives Birth to a New Life...Her Own , Amy Liz Harrison. Jason and Amy talk about the pressures that came from trying to keep up appearances, both inside and outside...

Chantal Jauvin on Finding Love Without Martinis | The Way Out Podcast Episode 239 04.05.2021

In this installment of The Way Out we bring you a remarkable, incredibly useful, and yes desperately needed discussion on how couples can build healthy, meaningful relationships in Recovery. It was a true pleasure and honor to interview Author and Attorney Chantal Jauvin, whom, along with her husband Bill has navigated their own and collective recovery journeys for 13 years and counting. There are...

You Can't Hurry Healing with Jennifer Leone | The Way Out Podcast Episode 238 26.04.2021

In this rendition of The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason interviews woman in long term recovery, Jennifer Leone. Jennifer is truly an open book as she shares how she came back from the ashes of addiction and childhood trauma to find herself, rebuild her relationships, develop a stellar career, and found a powerful voice that she uses to help others recover! Jason and Jennifer talk about traum...

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