The Vision Lab Podcast

Cuff and Mo catch up with the first person to really believe in the show, Robert Garcia. As the owner of his own Farmers Insurance franchise, Robert talks about the first time he met Mo and why he believed in the show from the start. Garcia also talks about the personal journey he’s been on and how he decided it was time for him to go from a cozy job in the roofing industry to running his own insu...

The guys take a quick road trip to Cigar Palace in Allen, Tx to sit down with retired basketball player Jay Warren. Warren explains how his whole perspective on life changed when his basketball career took him overseas. Jay also talks about arriving to a place of internal freedom where you are no longer concerned with the opinions of others. Jay gives his thoughts on what it takes to overcome and...

Cuff and Mo catch back up with inmate Jeremy Busby in a follow up to their first conversation with him. In a heartwarming moment, the guys surprise Jeremy with an appearance from DJ Cat Daddy of K104-FM. The conversation gets into more details surrounding Jeremy’s case and where he is today from a mental standpoint as he continues to explore all of his legal options. Things wrap up with Cat Daddy...

Cuff and Mo go on the road to sit down with the owner of Cu’Noma Cigar Lounge, Tommy Black. Tommy talks about why he wanted to take on the challenge of building the lounge and what he ultimately envisioned for his establishment. The financially savvy graduate of Baylor University details some of the steps he took to finance his lounge as well as what he might have done differently knowing what he...

Cuff and Mo talk with retired NFL linebacker Jamie Winborn about what it truly means to bounce back when things hit rock bottom. After enjoying all the things that came with life in the NFL, Winborn describes what it was like when the prolonged pains in his stomach turned out to be cancer and changed his life forever. Winborn details how his life spiraled out of control and how it eventually lande...

Cuff and Mo catch up with former NFL wideout Mark Clayton to see what he’s been up to since his retirement. The Arlington native talks about how a moment with a teammate in practice helped him to flip the switch and turn his competitive nature into overdrive. Clayton talks about how he has taken the competitive part of his personality into the business world and how playing a team sport has helped...

-Cuff and Mo hop on the line with one of the most entertaining people on social media, Anthony “Spice” Adams. The Detroit native talks about how he made the transition from his career in the NFL into what he’s doing now and how a random tweet changed his entire social profile. Now a husband and father of 4 kids, Adams talks about how his wife discovered his makeshift studio in the basement of thei...

Cuff and Mo sit down the founder of The Experience Brokers, Jamison. Sharp, dapper and cultured, Jamison talks about the huge influence that his dad has played in his life and how he now conducts himself in his everyday walk of life.  Now the CEO of his own marketing company and a veteran of numerous big time marketing activations, Jamison explains how he got his start in business through mus...

The guys take a trip to Michael’s Tobacco in Euless to speak with Tracey Spence. As the GM of one of the top producing stores in the metroplex, Tracey speaks about the ups and downs the tobacco industry has endured in the wake of government regulations and the COVID-19 pandemic. On the eve of the presidential election, Spence talks about the level of concern he has for the industry and the lengths...

A week before Election Day, the guys sit down with political writer Gary Doan to discuss everything related to the presidential race and American politics as a whole. Doan boils things down when it comes to our government and it’s flawed foundations that have gotten us to where we are in the present day. Doan, a member of the Libertarian party, explains why we as a country have become so tied to t...

Cuff and Mo sit down with real estate veteran Donovan Ruffin to discuss the vision he had for himself and the sacrifices he’s made that have led him being the CEO of his own company at just 26 years old!! The native of Toledo, Ohio talks about having some core values, goal setting and the value he places on making sure he stays grounded within himself in order to be at his best. As a child of a si...

Cuff and Mo sit down with veteran brand manager Big Tex to discuss what it means to really build a brand. The Akron, OH native talks about the mindset and work ethic he applies to get maximum professional and personal results. He's driven and intense; you can feel his energy as it never turns off. Tex teaches us all a valuable lesson about the cost we must be willing to pay in order to be successf...

Cuff and Mo go on location to sit down with Daryl Williams, the co-owner of The Endorphin Factory. Williams talks in depth about the sweat equity he and his family put into creating The Endorphin Factory and how it is so much more than just a place where you can brake things and relieve some stress. The Louisiana native talks about the importance of mental health and what he wants every person to...

Cuff and Mo chop it up with the head of Stixx and Stonez Cigars, Rich Papillion. Rich opens up about how Stixx and Stonez actually got its name and why it was originally formed. Papillion discusses some of the ups and downs he’s gone through as Stixx and Stonez has grown. He also talks about his mindset when it comes to promoting the Stixx and Stonez brand and pushing it forward on a daily basis....

The guys talk with the co-owner of MBL Title, Matt Lopez about what it took to go from being a lawyer to co-owning a title company of his own. The Arlington native talks about the value of good habits, having the right mindset and what he thinks are some foundational characteristics of a good leader. The guys wrap up with a discussion on the effects that COVID-19 will have on the real estate marke...

Cuff and Mo sit down with plus size pageant queen Katrina Harvey to discuss what life is like as a black pageant queen. Katrina talks about how she actually got started in the pageant world and the initial hurdles she had to overcome internally. She also details what it means to be considered plus size in the industry and her perspective on the rise of the body positivity movement. Harvey, a Chica...

The guys sit down with insurance professional Nick Griffin to talk about everything related to life insurance. The Arlington native breaks down the fundamentals of life insurance and when the proper time is to actually get it. Nick also talks about some of the misconceptions about life insurance and why we are behind the curve on it in the African American community. Nick also touches on the ties...

In their most sobering interview to date, the guys hop on the phone with inmate Jeremy Busby to hear his story of how he went from a night out to being arrested, charged and convicted of murder at 21 years old. Busby, who is currently serving a 75 year sentence at the federal prison in Beaumont,  TX, describes what his life has been like since he was incarcerated and how the criminal justice...

A couple of days before the TVLP Annual Golf Classic, Cuff and Mo sit down with safety professional and avid golfer Bill French. The guys talk with Bill about all things golf from how he got started playing the game to some of the basics rules and etiquette that you are supposed to follow on the course. The guys close things out with what Bill sees for himself in the future and what he’s most look...

Just a few days from the TVLP Golf Classic, the guys hop on the phone with the creator of the product line Stogies and Bogeys, Jesus Cazares. The Los Angeles native details how he was first introduced to the game of golf and the inspiration behind his amazing product. Cazares talks about the challenges that come with being a first time business owner and manufacturer of a product line. He also exp...

Cuff and Mo sit down with former NFL defensive back Ken Hamlin to talk about his journey from football standout to owning his own personal line of cigars, The Arrival. The Memphis native breaks down how the same work ethic and mindset he used to make it in professional football has translated into his passion for cigars. The guys talk with Hamlin about some of the details of the cigar and the meth...

Cuff and Mo sit down with Kenny Wiles in a truly sobering interview about overcoming addiction. Wiles, now a third generation lounge owner, really opens up on how his teenage drug use took him down a road of addiction and multiple near death experiences. The Arlington native talks about how he was preparing himself to go to prison when a pastor stepped in and changed his life forever. Now clean an...

Cuff and Mo catch up with one of the most colorful personalities in the cigar world, Leo Brown. The guys jump into how Leo actually got started smoking cigars during his time in the US Navy and how his curiosity about pairing cigars and drinks served as the basis for his company Barrels and Leafs. Brown, a Chicago native, talks about the importance of believing in yourself even when nobody else do...

In their most edgy and polarizing interview to date, the guys sit down with Erika Angel to talk about what it’s like to be a member of the LGBTQ community in 2020. Angel, who identifies as a bisexual, talks about how she came out to her mom and what it meant to finally start being true to herself. Erika explains to the guys what the LGBTQ community is fighting for now and her view on how BLM and t...

Cuff and Mo sit down with one of the most notable keynote speakers in the world, Eddie Pinero. The Boston native details how he got started on the path that has him where he is today. Pinero opens up about his theory on the struggle we have between our “good wolf” and “bad wolf” on a daily basis. Eddie talks with the guys about his popular platform, Your World Within and what he wants to do with i...