The Two Tongues Podcast

This episode concludes our discussion of Rudolf Steiner's--How to Know Higher Worlds. We explore more practical instructions for how to train in the "occult sciences," which surround increasing our capacity for empathy and systematically tearing down the psychological boundaries of identity...between yourself and others, between subject and object, between God and its creation. The ultimate goal o...

Kyle and Chris get political again in this one. We talk about the importance of borders, the disgraceful lack of respect for one another that prevails today and the consequences this has had on our society. We talk about society as a more effective version of policing (and far cheaper) and wrap up with a foray into the occult. Enjoy :)

In this episode we introduce the early 20th century philosopher and occultist--Rudolf Steiner. We explore his book "How to Know Higher Worlds" and compare and contrast his methods with those of Carl Jung. Steiner and Jung were contemporaries of each other and, while they likely never encountered each other, came to eerily similar conclusions from wildly different perspectives. If you're looking fo...

In this episode we return to Jung's mystical "Red Book" and recount 2 of his "visions." We meet (and kill) a destitute man and then chat with a monk in the desert. Through these experiences Jung comes to realize he exists as two worlds--one conscious, the other unconscious, one individual, the other collective, one as being, the other becoming. He can no longer hold on to the one-sided image of hi...

In this episode Daniel Torridon of the Onion Unlimited podcast joins the Two Tongues. Daniel gives us a lesson in Vedanta Hindu philosophy; we talk non-dualism and get Kyle's take on it. At some point Kyle asks the question: "Can murder be worship?" and we were off to the races. We wrap up with a rapid-fire game of "Before they were Jewish" by comparing Biblical stories to their older, ancient Mes...

In this episode we explore the 18th century scientist and mystic--Emanuel Swedenborg. Swedenborg led an interesting life as a respected philosopher and scientist before changing to theological themes in his later life. This change was attributed to a mystical experience, wherein, Swedenborg claimed, he was given the ability to live simultaneously in the Natural and Spiritual worlds. Swedenborg spe...

This episode originally aired as a live stream on the Onion Unlimited Podcast. Special thanks to Daniel Torridon for picking the topic and for the conversation. We talk "Hermeticism"...but what the hell is that exactly? Well, it is body of writing, some ancient and some less so, attributed to the ancient Greek god--Hermes. More correctly, they are attributed to Hermes Trismegistos; Hermes the "Thr...

In this episode we tackle the chapters of von Franz "Archetypal Symbols in Fairytales" that describe the image of "the mountain." We hear fairytales from across the world that take us up and deep into the holy mountain where the gods reside, or the spirits live. We see holy mountains as a symbol of the unconscious the world over, Ararat, Sinai, Olympus, Fuji, and on and on it goes. Even in the pyr...

In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss groups versus individuality. We talk about the despicable behavior of politicians, the undermining of the American Republic, manipulation, mind control and identity formation. Things get spicy when we turn to the topic of reparations. Let the fun begin. Enjoy :) 

In this episode we expand Jung's Greatest Pupils to include Edward Edinger. We explore his work "The Eternal Drama," which illustrates the psychological significance of the ancient Greek myths. We cover the creation of the world and the gods, the warfare between them, Prometheus and Pandora. We talk original sin and compare and contrast with the Bible, but most importantly we come to see ourselves...

In this episode Kyle recounts his trip to a Russian Orthodox church for Sunday service. We talk the differences between evangelical and Orthodox Christianity; what impressed Kyle and what did not. For those that don't know, there are no pews in an Orthodox Church...who knew? We discuss what makes religious experiences powerful and compelling and whether or not you need church.  Enjoy :)

In this episode we hear Chris' conversation with Daniel Torridon of the Onion Unlimited Podcast on the topic of Alan Watts book "On The Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are." Originally a live stream discussion, this conversation was co-released on the Onion Unlimited Podcast. We cover all the usual suspects, consciousness, ego death, the philosophy of Hegel, the meaning of death and much more.  Enjo...

This was a banger of a conversation! We asked the question: What makes an object special? And tried to unravel why family heir looms carry such value before moving to sacred and ritual objects. We relate these kind of psychological forces to mental illness, such as OCD and explore how closely related mental illness is to religious and psychedelic experience.  We blasphemies spoken? Did we make pro...

What do you get when you take a former Jehovah's Witness, give him a profound spiritual awakening and mix that with the minds of the reluctant hippie--Chris--and the champion of all Devil's advocates--Kyle? Find out here and on the Onion Unlimited podcast...https://onionunlimited.com/ Enjoy :) 

In this episode Chris re-connects with Josh Hamilton who has now officially launched his own podcast--Faith, Fringe, & Freedom. We discuss the path Josh has taken to get to the point of his debut episode and his reasons for focusing less of "fringe" and more on "faith" as the path to personal freedom. Josh is an endlessly interesting dude with his tentacles in medicine, entrepreneurship, politics...

In this episode Chris dives back into Erich Neumann's "The Origins and History of Consciousness" where we learn about the Separation of the World Parents and the division of the world into opposites. Neumann let's us in on the psychological meaning of these myths and how they tie to the myth of the hero, the Biblical fall of man and original sin.  Enjoy :)

In this episode Chris and Kyle talk about the fracturing of the division of power in the U.S. government and debate the existence of evil, the idea of the Devil and whether there are powers in the world that influence us against our will. We ask what our will even is and how it relates to the will of God...an odd question for those who believe we are God.  Enjoy :)

In this episode Chris carves another face onto his intellectual Mount Rushmore. Welcome aboard Bernardo! We cover Bernardo Kastrup's interview with Nick Jikomes of the Mind & Matter podcast and it does not disappoint. They talk mystical unity, the Oneness of Being understood as pure mind, the veil of perception, Jung, World Religions and...psychedelic experience. If I were a bingo board, this conv...

In this episode Kyle and Chris get controversial. We talk population control, Margaret Sanger, and global government. We touch on the Georgia Guidestones, Confederate monuments and the Jewish identity. Through in a little bit of the trans debate and the fact that George Washington didn't know about dinosaurs...and there you have it. Enjoy :)

In this episode we enter the second half of Carl Jung's Red Book. And it does not disappoint. The first image Jung encounters here is "The Red One," who he strongly suspects is the Devil himself. His interaction with The Red One lead to an interesting examination of completeness. Jung suggests that there is something critical missing from the Pagan path that Christianity offers and something missi...

In this episode we explore Kyle's interest in Orthodox Christianity.  Chris psychologizes this and connects it to Kyle's interest in Paganism. We swiftly move to devil worship, religious imagery and Powers and Principalities. We butcher Roman history along the way. Enjoy :) 

In this episode Chris explores a documentary titled "Secret Life of Chaos" narrated by Professor of Physics at the University of Surrey. We explore the scientific creation narrative and find the core of the mystery of reality resting on three mathematical principles...Self-organization, Feedback and Fractal geometry. We then take the scientific story and lay it over the mythological one to see how...

In this episode we talk to the Great Eddie, a friend from Kyle and Chris' past. Matt joins as well to tell the story of the times in which our lives crossed over the years. We talk Roe v Wade, the morality of abortion and propose alternatives. A little bit of God sprinkled in and there you have it. Enjoy :)

This episode picks up where we left off with Louis von Franz. We jump head first into fairytales from Siberia, Germany and indigenous America. We see snakes crawling out of king's mouths while they're sleeping and the homes of long dead relatives beneath a brook in the forest. We encounter holes and wells and the end of the world...all of which reveal themselves to be portals from this world into...

In this episode we follow Erich Neumann from the primordial symbol of the self-created Uroboros to the primeval Great Mother. This journey is a perilous one! Consciousness has to find a way to tear itself free of the place of its birth--The Great Mother. But once it's succeeded, it finds itself at the mercy of fate and fear. The "Self," once achieved, finds itself in the Unknown...submerged, strug...