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The Two Tongues Podcast
The Two Tongues Podcast explores the most interesting topics that aren’t ”fit” for popular consumption (or polite dinner conversation). Here you will find honest, unfiltered and unedited conversation between two life-long friends on the state of the world as we see it; politics, religion, mind-altering substances, psychology and philosophy are fair game. Let the fun begin!
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Jun 29, 2026
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S3E20 - The Embryo that is Everything - Creation in the Rig Veda 09.04.2023 1:01:40
In this episode Chris reviews a selection of the most ancient creation stories known to man, from the Hindu text--The Rig Veda. He compares and contrasts with the Zoroastrian myth we looked at last week, which is equally ancient, but he doesn't stop there. He also offers comparisons in the Scandinavian Edda's and as far afield as ancient China. We then wrap up with what makes the Hindu accounts un...
S3E19 - Before the Bible Part 2 05.04.2023 1:19:16
This is the long-awaited follow up to S1E62 where we discussed the ancient Sumerian and Babylonian myths the Enuma Elish and Epic of Gilgamesh and compared them to the accounts in Genesis. This time around, we focus on the Zoroastrian religion of ancient Persia and see how even the non-Semitic traditions of the prophet Zarathustra left there indelible mark on the Hebrews...and Christians! Heaven a...
S3E18 - Live with Yukit 03.04.2023 1:39:38
Josh returns to the Podcast this week and we talk about everything! We get Josh's take on misplaced archeology and the Antikythera mechanism, the conspiracy theory that says Michelle Obama may actually be a trans-woman, oh, and Orthodox Christianity. It's safe to say there's a trigger warning on this one. Listen at your own risk. Enjoy ;)
S3E17 - What I Don’t Understand About Transgenderism- A Millennial Perspective 29.03.2023 19:45
This episode diverges from our usual subject matter in order to address Transgender ideology as an increasingly powerful social movement. Chris expresses his worries for the youth of the up-coming generation and poses his questions for them to consider. Offered with all love and good will. Enjoy :)
S3E16 - The Joyous Cosmology 26.03.2023 1:15:30
In this episode Chris explores Alan Watt's little book entitled "The Joyous Cosmology" where he records his psychedelic trip accounts and offers his interpretation. It is a fascinating exploration of mind and of God in a way that is as compelling to the believer as to the atheist. Chris offers his religious parallels and adds personal anecdotes from his own mystic experience. Strap in! Enjoy ;)
S3E15 - Theosis - Is Jesus the Only God-man 22.03.2023 1:19:15
In this episode we explore the Orthodox Christian idea of "Theosis" or "becoming God." We ask what this means and how it interplays with a seemingly contrary article of faith, that Jesus is the only God-man. How can we become God, if Jesus is the only man to accomplish such a feat. Is there a difference between incarnation and Theosis? Between you and I and Christ? We explore this through the evid...
S3E14 - Trampolines, Thievery and Mystic Christianity 19.03.2023 2:07:18
In this episode Chris regales us with a story of taking his kids to a trampoline park and both tongues take turns recalling childhood shoplifting experiences. This all inevitably leads to conversation about morality and Chris' last solo episode about psychedelic spirituality and Christianity. Chris does his best to justify his mystical position, while Kyle reprises his favorite role--Devil's Advoc...
S3E13 - Becoming God - Logos and Psychedelics 15.03.2023 1:43:50
In this episode Chris raves about a new thinker in the psychedelic and religious space--David Patrick Harry--of the YouTube channel "The Church of the Eternal Logos." We discuss Harry's journey through psychedelic experience to the Eastern Orthodox Church and the many, many similarities between the revelations of each path. We talk the Logos, what it is, how it relates to God and how to become God...
S3E12 - Heterodoxy and the Religion of the Past 12.03.2023 2:06:38
In this episode Kyle and Chris talk about Orthodox Christianity and its theology of Theosis, which sets it apart from all flavors of Christianity. This get's us into a deeper discussion about the Logos, Dr. Jordan Peterson and quantum physics. We talk the Wheeler-Dewitt equation and the great Max Plank who said: "there is no matter as such! ... This Mind is the matrix of all matter." What does it...
S3E11 - Whitehead, the Final Word 08.03.2023 1:13:26
In this episode we get more "Opinion Scholarship" from Chris on the great philosopher--Alfred North Whitehead. Chris covers the final chapters of Process and Reality, focusing on Whitehead's concept of God. In this we find God to be the union of opposites and those opposites are God and the World. We find the infinite, eternal transcendent unified with the finite, temporal and immanent. We find Go...
S3E10 - The Black Face of White Supremacy 05.03.2023 2:09:10
This episode couldn't help being controversial. It was a rare evening recording and so naturally, the gloves came off. We open with racial disparity in IQ and standardized testing, then move into the recent racial controversy surrounding cartoonist Scott Adams. Not to be outdone, we decide to cover religion too where we learned that the Zoroastrians see the earth as a sort of booby-trap for the De...
S3E9 - From the Mouths of Babes 02.03.2023 48:30
In this episode Chris discusses a nightmare that the psychologist Jordan Peterson's nephew shared with him. It was a typical childhood nightmare full of fear and frightening imagery, but it held a deeper meaning. Jordan describes the psychological meaning and symbolism of the dream and how he empowered his nephew to overcome his fear. I tell this story in order to tell another. My 6-year-old daugh...
S3E8 - We’ll Do it Live 26.02.2023 2:12:01
This episode was the Two Tongues Pod's first ever live-stream. We talk Kyle's conversation with Jason from the 2Bit podcast, the always interesting subject of racism as well as our thoughts on Scott Adam's recent remarks on whether or not its ok to be "White." Chris coins the term "Opinion Scholarship" for this solo episodes and much, much more. Enjoy :)
S3E6 - Nothing Matters with Michio Kaku 22.02.2023 1:11:17
This episode rounds out the "Nothing Matters" series, which began with Alan Watts. We delve into the mysterious world of quantum physics, the word of dark matter, dark energy and black holes. On this journey we are confronted with the "Nothingness" of the space-time vacuum with surprising results. As it turns out, "Nothingness" does not exist...or more correctly "Nothing" is "Something." Zero poin...
S3E5 - The Lost Art of Debate 19.02.2023 2:08:14
In this episode Chris and Kyle discuss the value of debate and the relative effectiveness of different debate styles. We focus in on a debate from the YouTube Channel "The Crucible" where George Martin of Carnism Debunked and Andrew Wilson debate whether it's moral to eat meat. Kyle and I disagree on much, but ultimately agree debate is more valuable to the audience than the participants. People o...
S3E4 - The Food of the Gods, Soma and Omnipresence 15.02.2023 1:09:33
In this episode Chris begins his exploration of the Vedas--the oldest religious holy book we know of--the holy books of the Hindus. We read a series of hymns, which put tremendous emphasis on a ritual drink called "Soma," which seems in every way to be an ancient psychedelic brew. Soma was the food of the gods and was connected to both the gods and to immortality. It was consumed also the the Vedi...
S3E3 - The Epiphany Comes from Somewhere 12.02.2023 2:09:13
In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss addiction, demonic possession and debate just what in the hell 'spirit' means. We discuss God, Nothingness and the vacuum of space. Chris tries dutifully to convince Kyle that "Nothing" is 'Something.' He goes with me part-way, but questions whether this is a word game or a real distinction. We agree that "Potentiality" works better than 'Nothingness.' Lastly...
S3E2 - Jordan Peterson and the Joe Rogan Experience 08.02.2023 30:39
In this episode Chris discusses a monologue from Dr. Jordan Peterson on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast (episode 1933), which struck him hard. In it Dr. Peterson describes how the ancient Hebrews were able to know the unknowable, to know God. His analysis struck me as identical to the intuition gained from mystical experience. It is a way of knowing the unknowable, which paradoxically relies on n...
S3E1 - Sex Positivity and Digital Currency 05.02.2023 2:08:44
Kyle and Chris kick off Season 3 with a discussion of the evolutionary significance of the head cheerleader and high school quarterback as the alpha-category. Chris then criticizes how these facts impact the sexual choices of adolescents. But, lessons learned...you know? The conversation shifts to Cosmo magazine, questionable sex advice and the unspoken implications of the term "sex positivity." N...
S2E94 - Nothing Matters with Alan Watts 01.02.2023 1:11:23
In this episode we get our first taste of Alan Watts from a few of his lectures posted to the Psychedlic podcast. I honed in on his discussion of "nothingness" and what it actually means. Contrary to common intuition, "nothing" is actually "something." What that something is Watts calls "the secret of the whole thing." It has ontological implications, religious implications and psychological impli...
S2E93 - Satanism and Witches 29.01.2023 1:58:58
In this episode Chris reads from Rig Veda and compares ancient Hindu prayers to something like a Victorian séance (no disrespect). This gets us until a discussion of prayer, sacrifice, paganism and witches. We talk the Church of Satan, Scientology and Tom mother-f**king Cruse. Enjoy ;)
S2E92 - Whitehead, the Many and the One 25.01.2023 1:18:39
In this episode Chris walks through Whitehead's model of "substance." What is substance? Can it be mental? Is it One thing or many? Can it be both? We talk the Uroboros and the coincidence of opposites, including a great anecdote from Alan Watts who said that bees and flowers (many) are in fact one organism, since they are mutually counter-dependent; you cannot have one without the other. We then...
S2E91 - Your Mom’s Boobs and All the Isms 22.01.2023 2:02:30
This one's a doozy. We come out swinging with controversy. Racism, Gender Ideology, the Virtue of Selfishness and your mom's boobs. We cover it all on this episode of The Two Tongues Podcast. Enjoy :)
S2E90 - Peterson and Vervaeke on Consciousness 18.01.2023 30:40
In this episode Chris reacts to the latest conversation between Jordan Peterson and John Vervaeke, which occurred on the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, episode 321, entitled: "A Conversation So Intense it Might Transcend Time and Space". It did not disappoint. There conversation centered around the problem of consciousness and what function it actually serves. John proposed the hypothesis of 'relevan...
S2E89 - The Way, the Truth and the Bible with Daniel Torridon 16.01.2023 1:58:57
In this episode, Kyle has car trouble and cant make the podcast, but Daniel Torridon saves the day with a banger of an conversation about "the Truth." We talk "the way, the truth and the life" from the Gospel of John, the Jehovah's Witnesses calling their faith "the Truth," and the old faithful Socratic "what is truth?" We discuss what "God" means, what scripture is and what counts as divinely ins...
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