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The Two Tongues Podcast
The Two Tongues Podcast explores the most interesting topics that aren’t ”fit” for popular consumption (or polite dinner conversation). Here you will find honest, unfiltered and unedited conversation between two life-long friends on the state of the world as we see it; politics, religion, mind-altering substances, psychology and philosophy are fair game. Let the fun begin!
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Jun 29, 2026
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S4E38 - Critique of Mysticism with the Other Chris 04.11.2024 2:00:37
In this episode we introduce a new friend of the show and have a thoughtful discussion on the origin of religion and just what rests at the historical beginning of organized faith. We discuss the work of Wilhelm Schmidt, E.J. Michael Witzel and Michael Heiser on the subject in addition to a whole host of interesting asides. We discuss the ideas of 'sympathetic magic' and 'archetypes of the mind' a...
S4E37 - The Power in the Soul - Eckhart Continued 17.10.2024 1:31:51
In this episode Chris returns to the Sermons of Meister Eckhart to build from the first Eckhart episode covering Sermon 52. On this pass we cover Eckhart's conception of the soul and how it relates to God, setting the stage for mystical experience. We then turn to the corpus of Eckhart's sermons in search of a path toward attaining mystical experience for yourself. While there are few direct presc...
S4E36 - Robots, Apologetics and the Future 14.10.2024 1:51:05
In this episode Kyle and Chris re-unite after 2 weeks to catch up on the state of the world and what's new with each of us. The conversation illustrated the contrast between our relatively recent past and glimpses of our future techo-utopia...or dystopia (a the case may be). Kyle discussed breaking his phone and enjoying the disconnection and independence that comes with it; eliciting nostalgia f...
S4E35 - Meister Eckhart - The Eternal Abyss of Divine Being 04.10.2024 1:11:05
In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the medieval Christian mystics, Meister Eckhart. We review one of his most famous sermons--Sermon 52--to discover why he was accused of heresy and delivered to the inquisition. We explore his notion of "being free of God," "standing in my first cause," and "breaking through" and the kenosis or self-emptying that is necessary to achieve it. We...
S4E34 - What Did Jesus Teach 30.09.2024 2:20:18
In this episode Chris and Kyle pow-wow with a former evangelist and friend of the show, Daniel Torridon, of the Onion Unlimited podcast, to see what we can make of Jesus as a teacher. What or who Jesus was remains hotly debated after over 2,000 years. Was he God or merely a man? Was he a prophet? A teacher? While we have no hope of consensus as to his godhood, we do have general agreement that he...
S4E33 - The Kingdom of God 19.09.2024 1:23:34
In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship, this time surrounding Christianity. We read through the gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, John and Thomas, searching for the teachings of Jesus. Here we find references to the 'gospel of the kingdom of God,' but without any clear description of what that means. So we seek, as Jesus suggested, until we find. And what did we find? A whole host of im...
S4E32 - Game of Thrones, the Debate and Revisionist History 16.09.2024 2:11:07
In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a few weeks apart to catch up on what's been going on--the presidential debate key among them. We begin with praise and criticism of the GOT series, which Kyle felt compelled to share after re-watching all 8 seasons in bed sick this past week. The theme of political upheaval then took us into a discussion of the Trump-Harris debate and the various consp...
S4E31 - Ex Nihilo 07.09.2024 33:26
In this episode Chris delivers Opinion Scholarship on the idea of Nothingness and the Zero-Energy Universe Hypothesis in modern physics. He compares these ideas and their implications to humanity's oldest myths about the creation of the cosmos...and finds some striking parallels! In our myths we find a primordial mystery existing before existence from which 2 equal and opposing deities are formed....
S4E30 - Logos in Zoroastrianism 30.08.2024 1:39:50
In this episode Chris brings Opinion Scholarship on the ancient Persian religion--Zoroastrianism. We discuss the Proto-Indo-European people, their culture and religion and how they came down through the Indo-Iranian tribes that became both Zoroastrianism in Iran and Hinduism in India. We discuss the influence Zoroastrian ideas had on both Judaism and Christianity and explore what Zoroaster meant w...
S4E29 - What Happens in the Barbershop 26.08.2024 2:07:45
In this episode Chris and Kyle interview Chris' former barber--John--to discuss the sacred confessional of the barbershop. We discuss why people feel so comfortable opening up to their barber, the secrets that get shared and the good-natured ribbing that takes place between a close-knit group of barbers and their regular customers. Chris admits that every conversation he ever had with John in the...
S4E28 - Plato's Cave - Parable of the Mysteries 15.08.2024 1:18:17
In this episode Chris delivers Opinion Scholarship on the meaning of Plato's famous Cave Allegory. He shows through the words of Plato and the ancient Greek Poet Pindar that the secret goings-on of the Eleusinian Mysteries share a hell of a lot with the experience of the prisoner freed from Plato's cave. He then posits that the secrecy surrounding the Mysteries kept Plato from speaking about it di...
S4E27 - Religious Restoration and Kamala as POTUS 29.07.2024 2:03:48
In this episode Chris asks Kyle about the Indo-European influences on Judaism and Christianity and whether that impacts his personal faith. From there we pivot to a discussion of Chris' latest solo podcast entitled--Paleo Deo--on the subject of primitive monotheism. Then things get political. We discuss the libertarian and conservative revolutions occurring in Central and South America, the migrat...
S4E26 - Paleo Deo - Primitive Monotheism 24.07.2024 1:36:18
In this episode Chris highlights the ideas of German Anthropologist--Wilhelm Schmidt--and makes the case for a form of Monotheism as the original expression of religious feeling and intuition. We explore Occam's Razor, look for evidence of any true historical polytheistic faiths and discuss the problem of Henotheism. We also explore the Supreme Beings or "High Gods" of tribal peoples to gain a bet...
S4E25 - Praise and Blame with Daniel Torridon 22.07.2024 2:07:55
In this episode we cross-over with friend of the show Daniel Torridon of the Onion Unlimited podcast to talk about praise and blame. We discuss the power of positive and negative reinforcement and reflect on those peculiar memories of praise and blame that showed us a mirror of our selves or others impacted our behavior or worldview. We don't conclude without throwing morality and religion in the...
S4E24 - Saint Hermes - Hermeticism and the Holy Scriptures 17.07.2024 34:54
In this episode Chris brings some Opinion Scholarship on the Greco-Egyptian tradition of Hermes Trismegistus, who bestowed great and secret wisdom upon humanity. We compare Biblical verses to the famous Hermetic dictum "As Above, So Below," and explore why a group of early Christians in Egyptian would have hid away Hermetic writings along with dozens of early Christian and Gnostic codices. What po...
S4E23 - The Assassination of Donald Trump by the Coward Matthew Crooks 15.07.2024 2:04:37
In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss this past weeks' attempted assassination attempt on former President Donald J. Trump. We give our "first impressions" on the media's reaction as well as the reaction of ordinary people on Twitter. We discuss the many conspiracy theories already exploding from the left and point to the great hypocrisy of the double-standard surrounding "inciting violence." And...
S4E22 - Stories of the Great Flood 12.07.2024 1:28:37
In this episode Chris is brining you Opinion Scholarship on the myth of the Great Flood. While it's widely known that the deluge story appears all over the world, from every continent, very few people ever read the original sources to see just how similar they are. Today, I have remedied that! We read through the flood account from Ovid's Metamorphosis, compare the Indian account of the Flood of M...
S4E21 - Orphic Mysteries Unveiled - The Derveni Papyrus 07.07.2024 1:37:27
Have you ever wondered what is meant by the phrase "mystery religions"? Ever wonder, just what the hell this "mystery" is? Are you frustrated by the deafening silence of the ancient writers on this subject? Titillated by the hints left by Plato and the pre-Socratics? Yeah, you're not alone. While the mysteries of Eleusis and the cults of Mithras and Isis may remain in the shadows, the mysteries of...
S4E20 - God of the Omaha 03.07.2024 53:31
In this episode Chris is bringing you Opinion Scholarship on the religion of the Omaha tribe, indigenous to the Ohio Valley in the United States. More specifically, on their conception of God, whom they call Wakonda and their Sioux cousins call Wakan Tanka. We explore the fascinating form of henotheism or even monotheism that the Omaha practice and dive deeply into the opening line of their creati...
S4E19 - Trump, Biden Debate Review 01.07.2024 2:17:54
In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss the first Presidential Debate of 2024--Trump v Biden. This was a difficult conversation, but we pulled no punches, calling it as we saw it. Was there a lack of substance in the debate? Yes. Did it devolve into ad hominems and name calling? Of course, it did. But did we learn anything we didn't already know? We'll let you be the judge. Enjoy ;)
S4E18 - The Book of the Sibyls 26.06.2024 1:12:56
In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the virgin prophetesses of Ancient Greece--the Sibyls. We discuss first-hand spiritual and mystical experiences versus communal one's like those embodied in organized religions, and how they fit together. From here we turn to shamanism and the mystery cults of the ancient world and describe the thread that runs through these and into the realm...
S4E17 - Walter Russell and the Universal One 19.06.2024 1:32:47
This episode was inspired by Terrance Howard's recent conversation with Joe Rogan on the JRE podcast (episode 2152), where Terrance proposes a new understanding of science, which could resolve the mysteries of modern physics. He introduces the work of Walter Russell, American artist, author and mystic would wrote extensively on this new science. In this episode we discuss Walter Russell's 1926 wor...
S4E16 - Andrew Wilson vs Dave Smith Breakdown 17.06.2024 2:25:30
In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss The Crucible debate between Paleo-Conservative Andrew Wilson and Libertarian Dave Smith. We highlight the key arguments they tackle surrounding the meaning of "ownership," the application of the "non-aggression principle" and just how closely aligned Libertarian's are to Leftists. We suggest some alternate paths the debate might have taken, under different ci...
S4E15 - Darryl Cooper and the New Jerusalem 10.06.2024 2:20:26
In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss an absolutely classic history podcast series entitled Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem by Darryl Cooper of the Martyr Made podcast. This one goes back to 2015, but given the actively raging Israeli-Gaza conflict circa 2024, it seems well worth a re-visit. We discuss the many historical facts about the history of this conflict that go under the radar of...
S4E14 - On Gods and Dragons 05.06.2024 42:21
In this episode Chris discusses an episode of the YouTube channel "Mr. Mythos" entitled "Evidence YHWH was a Dragon." We examine the prominent role dragons hold in world mythology and explore evidence in the Bible that describes God as a dragon. We then expand on Mr. Mythos' work to incorporate Jordan Peterson's discussion of the Babylonian "dragon of chaos"--the primordial goddess Tiamat--and it'...
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