ThoughtStretchers Education
The ThoughtStretchers Podcast
Dialectic Conversations For Intellectually Rigorous Educators
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Jun 30, 2026
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Bridging Gaps With Mental Models 24.09.2025 1:13:53
Drew Perkins talks with Jim Heal and Rebekah Berlin about their new book, Mental Models: How understanding the mind can transform the way you work and learn. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
"Soul-Destroying" Or Empowering Pedagogy? 17.09.2025 1:22:42
Drew Perkins talks with Karen Vaites about navigating educational tribalism, the "Science of Learning," and the impact of knowledge-rich, coherent curricula on student outcomes. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Strategic Leadership 11.09.2025 1:19:03
Drew Perkins talks with Rachel Curtis and Liz City, co-authors of the book Leading Strategically: Achieving Ambitious Goals in Education . Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Using A Prohuman Curriculum To Build Character And Civic Virtue 29.08.2025 54:03
Drew Perkins talks with Christina LaRose about her work with the Prohuman Foundation to develop a curriculum focused on learning character through literature. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Bridging The Science of Learning And Inquiry With Socratic Experience 30.07.2025 1:07:50
Drew Perkins talks with Michael Strong, founder of The Socratic Experience, a K–12 high-touch virtual school that equips students through Socratic dialogue, 1:1 mentoring, and creative and entrepreneurial projects. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Is The Science of Learning 'Soul Destroying'? 24.07.2025 1:26:05
Drew Perkins talks with teacher-educator Rachael Jefferson about her Education HQ article from an interview that is critical of the Science of Learning movement. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
How To Have Nuanced Conversation 14.07.2025 28:44
Drew Perkins talks with Shane Leaning as a guest on his Education Leaders podcast about how to have conversations that focus on nuance, complexity, and understanding. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
AI In Education 30.05.2025 49:33
Drew Perkins talks with Songyee Yoon, author and founder and managing partner of the venture capital firm Principal Venture Partners (PVP), where she focuses on investing in AI-native companies transforming industries. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Powerful Knowledge And A Capabilities Curriculum 21.05.2025 1:05:06
Drew Perkins talks with teacher and author, Richard Bustin, about his book What Are We Teaching ? Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Science Of Learning, PBL, And Inquiry: A Salon Conversation 09.05.2025 54:24
Drew Perkins is joined by Andrew Watson, Dr. Cindy Nebel, and Fox Demoisey to discuss the intersections between the Science of Learning, project-based learning, and inquiry. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Anti-DEI And Enlightenment Liberal Principles 16.04.2025 1:13:14
Drew Perkins talks with Tim Minella, Senior Constitutionalism Fellow at The Goldwater Institute, about their work to eliminate DEI in higher education. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
DEI: Expansive or Restrictive? A Salon Conversation 10.04.2025 57:47
Drew Perkins is joined by educators and DEI practitioners Carlos Hoyt, Daryl Sinclair, and Nunana Nyomi for a salon-style conversation about the complexities and nuances of DEI. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Powerful Questioning, Powerful Pedagogy 02.04.2025 1:01:00
Drew Perkins talks with Bruce Robertson about his new book, Power Up Your Questioning: A Practical Handbook for Teachers. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Breaking The Generational Cycle Of Poverty 26.03.2025 1:08:34
Drew Perkins talks with Dr. Abraham George about his work to help children transcend India's caste system through education and his Shanti Bhavan School. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Differentiated Instruction With Modern Classrooms Project 19.03.2025 57:10
Drew Perkins talks with Robert Barnett, Modern Classrooms Project cofounder, about his new book, Meet Every Learner's Needs: Redesigning Instruction So All Students Can Succeed. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
The Knowledge Revival, Curriculum For Deep Thinking 12.03.2025 1:06:47
Drew Perkins hosted this conversation with Paul Kirschner, Claudio Vanhees, and Daniel Muijs, three of the ten co-authors of the open-access book, Developing Curriculum for Deep Thinking: The Knowledge Revival. This was a ThoughtStretchers Community event that included registered participant questions. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Beyond Phonics, The Challenge Of Teaching Dyslexic Students 05.03.2025 1:12:06
Drew Perkins talks with, parent, Jackie Castillo-Blaber, and parent/teacher Melinda Karshner about the challenges of teaching reading to dyslexic students. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Centering Educational Progress 26.02.2025 55:52
Drew Perkins talks with Jack Despain Zhou about his project to establish a new think tank called Center for Educational Progress. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
How Should We Be Teaching History? 19.02.2025 1:33:37
Drew Perkins talks with Jonathon Dallimore about his book, Teaching History: A Practical Guide for Secondary School Teachers. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
The Essential Howard Gardner 13.02.2025 1:05:23
Drew Perkins talks with Howard Gardner about his two new books, The Essential Howard Gardner On Education and On Mind , both reflections on his academic career and work. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Cognitive Load Theory: A Reflective Conversation 05.02.2025 1:27:28
Drew Perkins hosts this salon-style conversation with Dylan Wiliam, Oliver Caviglioli, Carl Hendrick, and Christian Bokhove about Cognitive Load Theory. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
School Choice Debate And Dialogue 30.01.2025 1:08:20
This episode is the recording of a live discussion about school choice and vouchers, hosted by Drew Perkins, with Josh Cowen and Neal McCluskey as part of our ThoughtStretchers Community. It includes RSVP'd guests and their questions. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Developing Curriculum for Deep Thinking: The Knowledge Revival 23.01.2025 19:41
This episode is another experimentation in AI-generated podcast 'conversations', this time about the recent open-access publication Developing Curriculum for Deep Thinking: The Knowledge Revival. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Katharine Birbalsingh On Multiculturalism And Quality Education 10.01.2025 58:53
Drew Perkins talks with Katharine Birbalsingh, Headmistress of London's Michaela School about her approach to multiculturalism and the role of knowledge and inquiry in quality education. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Knowledge Doesn't Equal Understanding 01.01.2025 1:14:29
Drew Perkins talks with Christian Moore-Anderson about his Knowledge Doesn't Equal Understanding blog piece . Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
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