Jonathan Pageau
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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Jul 10, 2026
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389 - Joe Allen - Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity 16.04.2025 57:10
In this conversation, I sit down with Joe Allen to dig into the strange and unsettling territory where transhumanism and politics collide. We explore how politics is shaping the trajectory of technological development—and how, in turn, emerging tech like AI begins to shape us. We talk about the deeper philosophical and spiritual undercurrents of transhumanism: the ego behind the machines, the myt...
388 - Mary Harrington - Identity After Postmodernism 07.04.2025 50:01
In this conversation with Mary Harrington, we explore how identity has evolved from the ancient idea of the soul to the concept of self and today how we talk and think about identity. We dive into how technology and AI shape this shift and why bringing back the soul might help us tackle modern challenges. We argue that purpose and hierarchy clarify identity in today’s mess of competing selves. We...
387 - Severance: When Hierarchy Breaks Down 02.04.2025 41:51
In this episode I break down the meaning and symbolism in the 2022 show Severance starring Adam Scott. Let me know in the comments on YouTube if you want more content like this. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/4RgQ0Q4pgHA ===== SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide y...
386 - Snow White (2025) Is a Disaster, But... 26.03.2025 29:33
This is my review of Disney's recent Snow White live-action remake. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/gk2koS8Eomg =========== With all this attention on Snow White right now, we want to make sure that we're mostly celebrating this powerful story in our culture. So to do so, we're offering for the very last time a limited edition box set of our own Snow White story, Snow White and the Widow Queen....
385 - Peter Leithart - The Bible As a Way of Seeing 22.03.2025 1:06:06
In this conversation I interview Peter Leithart, an American author, minister, and theologian, who serves as president of Theopolis Institute for Biblical, Liturgical, & Cultural Studies in Birmingham, Alabama. We discuss the origins, mission, and theological insights of Theopolis Institute and the influence of James B. Jordan, who wrote the influential book titled “Through New Eyes”. We furth...
384 - Gregg Hurwitz - Why We Tell Stories (Ralston College) 15.03.2025 1:40:47
I recently had the privilege to visit Ralston College where I had a wonderful discussion with Gregg Hurwitz about meaning, art, and the future of culture. We also gave advice to the young students at Ralston College about navigating the life of an artist. RALSTON COLLEGE: A revival and reinvention of the traditional university. A fellowship for anyone, anywhere who seeks the truth with courage. Wh...
383 - John Vervaeke and Chris Mastropietro - Awakening from the Meaning Crisis 09.03.2025 1:14:37
In this conversation with John Vervaeke and Christopher Mastropietro we discuss their collaborative work on the 'Awakening from the Meaning Crisis' project, exploring the dynamics of their partnership, the impact of their ideas on contemporary discourse, and the challenges of making complex concepts accessible. They delve into the importance of narrative in understanding philosophical ideas, the r...
382 - The Resurrection of Logos (Reupload) 06.03.2025 35:47
The world is changing rapidly, and the transformation we’re witnessing—especially within the Church—has been astonishing. Across America, Orthodox churches are growing at an unprecedented rate, and cultural shifts that once seemed impossible are now unfolding before our eyes. For this week's video, we revisit my very first public event with Jordan Peterson, at The Resurrection of Logos event, wh...
381 - James Orr - Christianity Beyond Civilization 02.03.2025 1:04:04
I had a wonderful discussion with James Orr. Dr Orr is Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion at the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge. He was also one of the panel members for the Daily Wire Plus Exodus and Gospels seminars, which we discuss in this video. We also talk about our difference approaches and perspectives on Scripture, the current cultural shift and Christianit...
380 - Alien Intelligence: Stargate, UFOs, AI, Psychedelics 26.02.2025 28:21
This is a repost of the patron video for January 2025. Given the recent announcement about project Stargate I delved into modernity's quest for forbidden knowledge and how it relates to today's obsession with UFOs, AI, psychedelics, and even transgenderism. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/h79SINKwmjA =========== NEW COURSE: The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-Earth Join us for an in-depth study of...
379 - You’re Not That Different From Your Political Opponents 20.02.2025 19:08
For the past few decades we have heard from the new atheists just how horrible religion is, that religion is responsible for all these terrible things like the inquisition and witch burnings - but what if I told you that there are patterns or structures behind this kind of behaviour that are simply human, and are not unique to religious people, nor to your ideological or political opponents, but e...
378 - Richard Rohlin - Tolkien and Universal History 07.02.2025 48:24
In this episode Richard Rohlin goes solo to give us an introduction about JRR Tolkien's vision for Universal History. Later this month he will be teaching a course on this topic. Register now for the Tolkien and Universal History course by Richard Rohlin on The Symbolic World website: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history Cost: $150 Discount: 10% off for all Symbol...
377 - Annie Crawford - The Breakthrough of Myth 07.02.2025 50:49
In this conversation, Jonathan Pageau and Annie Crawford delve into C.S. Lewis's work, particularly focusing on 'Till We Have Faces.' They explore the significance of this book in understanding Lewis's thought, its mythic elements, and the interplay between paganism and Christian themes. The discussion also touches on the evolution of Lewis's writing style, the role of myth and fairy tales, and th...
376 - Fr. Stephen De Young - St. Paul the Pharisee 19.01.2025 1:13:59
Fr. Stephen De Young is back on the podcast to discuss his latest book, St. Paul the Pharisee. St. Paul is at the core of many modern misunderstandings about Christianity; Fr. Stephen presents how we can understand St. Paul’s writings within the context of who he was, when he lived, and who he was addressing in his epistles, ultimately bringing us closer to the vision Christ Himself gave us. -Buy...
375 - Paul Kingsnorth - Western Civilization Is Already Dead 12.01.2025 59:18
Paul Kingsnorth gave a provocative talk for First Things' Erasmus Lecture of 2024, titled "Against Christian Civilization". In this episode, we discuss the essence of his argument, delving into the fundamental tensions between Christianity and civilization. How does faith interact with culture? What is the Biblical narrative around cities and governance? Are we misusing Christianity as a tool for...
374 - The Role of St. John the Baptist 06.01.2025 28:01
In celebration of the Feast of Theophany I discuss the role of St. John the Baptist, or St. John the Forerunner, as he's known in the Orthodox tradition. Why does Christ need a forerunner? What is he actually doing, symbolically? And how does his appearance, behavior, and death participate in the pattern that's already being set up in the Old Testament? Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/d...
373 - Matthew Wilkinson - Mystical Bach and the Breakdown of Music 05.01.2025 1:20:50
For this interview I have a great discussion with organist, pianist, conductor, arranger, and recording artist Matthew Wilkinson, who also happened to put together the Symbolic World intro music. We delve into the symbolism of music, particularly focusing on Bach's organ works. The discussion also touches on the evolution of musical styles from the Baroque period to the Classical, modern and postm...
372 - Christmas: The Anchor of Reality (Repost) 24.12.2024 39:25
This is a repost of a talk given at St-George Antiochian Orthodox Church in Montreal, originally posted in 2018. The Nativity icon is not only the image of an event that happened two thousands years ago, but rather by its form and the hierarchy of its elements, shows us the inner working of how the Divine Logos creates the world and how His incarnation acts as the anchor, the fulcrum around which...
371 - The Dark Side of Christmas: The Massacre of the Innocent(s) 21.12.2024 25:07
In this episode, I explore a dark narrative aspect of the Christmas story: the Massacre of the Innocents at the hand of King Herod, connecting it to various Old Testament variations on the pattern: Joseph and the Pharaoh, Jacob and Esau, and David and King Saul. Christ brings all of these stories together in a unique and mind-blowing way, not just in the Gospels, but also in what happens in histor...
370 - The Restoration of Notre Dame - Did They Get It Right? 13.12.2024 23:48
This is a repost of the November 2024's patron video where I take a closer look into the restoration of Notre Dame de Paris. After a devastating fire in 2019, and 5 years of reconstruction, Notre Dame is now officially open. But did they get it right in how they rebuilt the church? 🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 L...
369 - Fr Josiah Trenham - Orthodoxy in America 07.12.2024 1:17:00
I sat down with Fr. Josiah Trenham, archpriest at St. Andrew Orthodox Church in Riverside, California, and founder and director of Patristic Nectar Publications. With over 30 years of experience as a priest in America, Fr. Josiah has a wealth of knowledge about the state of Orthodoxy in the West and the challenges converts face. We discuss various aspects of Orthodox and contemporary life: beauty,...
368 - Symbolism Explained: Tucker Carlson Attacked by a Demon 25.11.2024 26:57
A clip has been circulating from the upcoming Christianities movie, hosted by John Heers, of Tucker Carlson recounting a terrifying experience he had where he woke up with bleeding claw marks on his sides and is convinced it was a demonic attack. In this video I discuss such experiences. How is it possible that a spiritual entity can physically manifest? Support the Christianities movie and check...
367 - Rod Dreher - Living in Wonder 21.11.2024 58:57
Rod Dreher and I had a great discussion about his latest book, Living in Wonder. We discussed re-enchantment, UFOs, AI, attention, the internet, and more. Enjoy! Get Rod's book - Living in Wonder: Finding Mystery and Meaning in a Secular Age: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Wonder-Finding-Mystery-Meaning/dp/0310369126 YouTube version: https://youtu.be/KvNM1AefXN0 ===========Book description=========...
366 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: The Voyage of St. Brendan 17.11.2024 1:12:29
This episode is part of our miniseries of Universal History episodes focused on Ireland. We talk about the voyage of St. Brendan the Navigator, one of the mythical founders of Ireland, along with a general exploration of what it takes to create culture and being a Christian in the world. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/nlzEUV5sV2o Previous UH episodes on Ireland: 1. Universal History: Ireland, t...
365 - Fr. Stephen De Young - Friedrich Nietzsche’s Guide to the Bodily Resurrection (Summit 2024) 06.11.2024 1:02:02
This talk by Fr. Stephen DeYoung is from the Symbolic World Summit that took place in Florida on the weekend of February 29th, 2024. All other talks and discussions from the event can be accessed through the Symbolic World website if you buy the video package. Other speakers included myself, Jordan Peterson, Dr. Martin Shaw, Richard Rohlin, Neil DeGraide, Fr. Dcn. Nicholas Kotar, Vesper Stamper, a...
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