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The SWAPA Number

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In each podcast we explore a number that will help us explain an issue that matters to our Pilots. This might be a scheduling metric, a Company financial number that impacts us, or anything else that has significance to us as SWAPA Pilots.

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SWAPA

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swapa.org

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

23 (Schedule Research Committee, Scott Plyler, Dan O'Connor and Meagan Nelan) 07.08.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 23. That's the number of pages of SWAPA's Schedule Execution language that was missing from Labor Relations' last pass of work rules. Our proposals to mitigate long days, short overnights and a historic fatigue rate were completely ignored in their counter.  So today's on the show, we're going to talk to the three SRC members who are working wi...

402 (Matt Minguela, Tony Caparella, Benefits) 31.07.2023

Today's SWAPA number is $402. That's the dollar amount that SWAPA members pay for their long-term and short-term disability per month. Today on the show we're going to talk to SWAPA pilot Matt Minguela about his experience on disability, as well as Benefits Committee member Tony Caparella, to give us more information on what is lacking in your benefits, what you can do to make the p...

6 (Erich Schnitzler, Greg Auld, Dan O'Connor, Contract Comparison) 17.07.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 6. That's the number of agreements that have been ratified, with two still pending, at other carriers over the last nine months. So today on the show, we're going to talk with EF&A Chair, Eric Schnitzler, member Greg Auld, and SRC Committee member, Dan O'Connor, about what's been happening with other carriers' contracts and SWAPA's upc...

117 (Fatigue, Scott Hutchinson) 03.07.2023

Today's SWAPA number is 117. FAR Part 117 is the regulation that governs flight time, duty time, and rest rules for airline pilots. So on today's episode, we'll be talking with Captain Scott Hutchinson, member of the SWAPA Safety Committee and the Fatigue Safety Advisory Group about fatigue issues that not only impact SWAPA pilots, but are industry-wide issues. If you have any feedb...

8/31 (The Future, Casey Murray and John Murphy) 19.06.2023

Today's SWAPA number is 8/31. That's the date of SWAPA's nationwide picket that will take place in 5 of the 11 domiciles. This historic picket is just one of the many things we have prepared over the next few months.      So today on the show, we're going to talk to President, Casey Murray and Strike Committee Chair, John Murphy, about upcoming events and strategic plans for ou...

892 (Scott Plyler, Dan O'Connor, Meagan Nelan, Summer Schedule) 29.05.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 892. That's the number of planned CQT move-ups from August and September to June of this year. As you can imagine, this will have a definite impact on flying for the month.  So on today's show, we spoke with SRC Chair, Scott Plyler, member, Dan O'Connor, and analyst manager, Meagan Nelan, about how the schedule might be affected and what pilots should ex...

99.2% (Casey Murray, Ready to Strike) 15.05.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 99.2. That's the percentage of pilots who voted yes to the strike authorization vote. That number was very impressive and clearly showed our pilots' resolve. Because of that historic vote, on today's show, we spoke with SWAPA President, Casey Murray, about those numbers and what they mean for our pilot group as well as what the future holds. If you have...

$11.9 million (Jody Reven, Kurt Heidemann, Damian Jennette, SAV and Negotiations) 01.05.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 11.9 million. That's the amount of money lost in pure training costs alone from the pilots who have left Southwest since December of 2021. That's a lot of money being lost to attrition, and it doesn't take into account the lost revenue from those pilots no longer being here to fly the schedule as published. So on today's show, we spoke with NC Chair...

1380 (Darren Ellisor, Flight 1380) 17.04.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 1380. That's the Southwest flight number that had an uncontained engine failure with an emergency landing into Philadelphia five years ago today on April 17th, 2018. Today, on the anniversary of that date, we talk with Houston Captain, Darren Ellisor, who was the FO on Flight 1380, about what happened that day, the investigation afterwards, and what lessons can be...

5 (Strike Authorization Vote, John Murphy & Mike Terwilliger) 03.04.2023

Today's SWAPA number is 5, that's how many unions, including SWAPA that have chosen to call a Strike Authorization Vote during their negotiation cycle while we have been in the middle of ours. The other four are Delta, Alaska, American and FedEx.  Southwest isn't alone nor unique in their struggle to achieve a contract that attracts and retains the best pilots in the industry. On to...

100 (Kurt Heidemann, SWAPA Number Recap) 01.04.2023

As we approach 100 episodes of the SWAPA Number podcast, we're going to look back on some highlights including some never before heard clips that will give you, our listeners, some insight into the process it takes to bring you information directly from the source- our SWAPA subject matter experts and leaders - since August 2019.  If you have any feedback for us at all, please drop us a line...

45 (The History of SWAPA with Frank Schmuck) 20.03.2023

Today’s SWAPA Number is 45. That’s the number of years since the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association was formally recognized by the National Labor Relations Board on March 27, 1978. You’ve heard the expression that history repeats itself, so for the SWAPA anniversary, we wanted look back at some of the events that have happened at our Union and see what they tell us about what we’re experiencing...

89 ( Seth Kornblum, Strike Authorization Vote Past and Present) 01.03.2023

Todays SWAPA Number is 89, thats the number of days Contract Admin Chair Seth Kornblum was on strike, when he was with his former carrier Comair.  With the Strike Authorization Vote coming up and the Strike Prep Booklet having been mailed to homes, we felt that the time was right to sit down and talk with him about what that time in life was like, what were some of the things he would do different...

2.07 (Erich Schnitzer, Greg Auld, Damian Jeanette, Profit Sharing and Industry Update) 20.02.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 2.07, that's the percentage of 2022 profit sharing that will be funded next month. February is a busy time for our EFA Committee every year with full year earnings across the industry coming in and Southwest Profit Sharing getting announced. But this year it's especially busy with the fallout from the Christmas meltdown, a recent TA at Delta and big pay raise...

27 (Senate Hearing) 10.02.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 27. That's the number of Senators on the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. This week, that committee held a hearing to investigate the airline industry and invited SWAPA President Casey Murray to testify. If you had any doubt about the value of SWAPA’s Government Affairs Committee, this hearing should be all the proof you need. GAC’s relat...

33 (Mike Panebianco, History and Message Moving Forward) 06.02.2023

Today's SWAPA number is 33. That's the percentage of pilots who have joined Southwest Airlines since our last contract cycle between 2012 and 2016, which led to our current CBA and ended our last trip through mediation. So on today's show, we're talking to SWAPA's Communications Committee Chair, Mike Panebianco, about SWAPA's message moving forward. We'll also as...

99 (Casey Murray, Jody Reven, SAV and What's Next) 23.01.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 99. That's the percentage of voting pilots who backed ALPA's strike authorization vote at Delta Airlines back in October. Pilots at Alaska voted in May with the same outcome. Those incredible numbers are the target SWAPA pilots need to aim for in our recently announced strike authorization vote. On today's show we're going to speak with Casey Murray...

825 million (Casey Murray, Mike Santoro, Tom Nekouei, Christmas Meltdown) 09.01.2023

Today's SWAPA Number is 825 million. That's the negative impact the meltdown will have to our fourth quarter earnings according to an 8-K, the Company filed on January 6th. I don't have to tell you that SWAPA has been super busy communicating with our members over the last couple of weeks. Our reps and our execs have written extensively about the leadership failures, while our commi...

3,025 ( Scott King, AMFA) 26.12.2022

Amy Robinson: Today's SWAPA number is 3,025. That's the total number of aircraft mechanics and related professionals at Southwest Airlines, which are represented by the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association. AMFA and SWAPA have worked closely together over the last few years to help one another out during contract negotiations. So on today's show we spoke with Scott King, Nationa...

1 in 10 (Tom Stanley, HIMS) 12.12.2022

Today’s SWAPA Number is 1 in 10.  That’s the estimated number of American’s who have addiction issues. That means that with 10,000 Pilots as many as 1,000 of them might be dealing with some form of addiction. So today we are talking to SWAPA HIMS Chair, Tom Stanley about the upcoming holidays and  what you can do to help mitigate risk, and who to call if you believe you need help. If you have any...

25,000 (Scott Plyler and Dan O'Connor, Scheduling Issues) 28.11.2022

Today’s SWAPA number is 25,000. That’s the number of days off our pilots have involuntarily given up since the beginning of the pandemic. On today’s show we decided to talk to SRC Chair Scott Plyler and member Dan O’Connor about this troubling trend as well as getting some other scheduling updates. We’re recording this show in Austin while the NC is in active negotiations, and Kurt is downstairs i...

12/7 (Casey Murray, Looking Ahead) 14.11.2022

Today’s SWAPA number is 12/7. That’s the date of the next SWAPA Informational Picket that will be held on Wall Street in New York City. So on today’s show we talked to President Casey Murray about the state of the operation, last quarter’s financial results, and the relationship between SWAPA and the Company's new leadership. If you have any feedback for us at all, please drop us a line at co...

$1.2 billion (Jalmer Johnson, Industry Analysis) 31.10.2022

Today's SWAPA Number is $1.2 billion. That's the dollar figure increase from TA1 to TA2 during our last round of contract negotiations. The analysis and costing that went into that increase was calculated by SWAPA's EFA committee. But assisting us at the time was industry analyst and former ALPA Chief of Staff, Jalmer Johnson. Today on the show, we'll talk with him about where...

$3.5 million (Kerrey Hunt, Resolute Health Care Advisors) 17.10.2022

Today's SWAPA number is $3.5 million. That's the amount of money Resolute Healthcare Advisors have recovered for pilots since 2012 when they began working with SWAPA. This is a benefit that SWAPA provides for all of our pilots and is available for anyone to use regardless of their healthcare benefit plan. On today's show, we spoke with Kerrey Hunt from Resolute Healthcare about some...

50 (Jody Reven, Damian Jennette, Kurt Heidemann, Negotiations) 03.10.2022

Today's SWAPA Number is 50. That's the number of recently hired pilots who have voluntarily left Southwest Airlines so far in 2022. This record number shows that without an industry leading contract, Southwest Airlines cannot attract and retain the pilots needed to grow and sustain this network. SWAPA has been in formal negotiations for more than two years, since January of 2020, when we...

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