The Spin Sucks Podcast with Gini Dietrich

The PESO Model® has evolved—and that evolution matters more than ever in 2026. As AI accelerates execution and marketing teams are asked to deliver more with fewer resources, the real challenge isn’t whether to use AI. It’s whether your organization has a system strong enough to govern it. In this episode, Gini Dietrich explains how the PESO Model has evolved from a framework into an operating sys...

Most visibility programs fail because teams don’t know what to measure—or they measure too much, too late. In this final episode of the Visibility Engineering series, Gini Dietrich breaks down three simple metrics that tell you whether your work is driving real pre-pipeline demand. No dashboards. No spreadsheets. Just signal.

You’ve built your anchor hubs, clarified your experts, and added external proof. Now Gini Dietrich shows you how to put your credibility into circulation—not by posting more, but by boosting only what your audience proves they value. This is the week visibility engineering shifts from theory to traction. Tune in and learn how to let your audience show you exactly what to amplify.

Saying “we’re the leading provider” isn’t a strategy. Corroboration is. In this episode, Gini Dietrich explores how to build corroboration loops—the external proof points that show up in trade outlets, creator newsletters, podcasts, and partner channels, and all lead back to your best content. If you’re a senior marketer or communicator trying to move beyond vanity metrics and random thought leade...

Does your website read like a committee of ghosts wrote it? Logos, vague promises, stock photos—and no real humans your audience can actually trust? In this episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich introduces author footprints: a simple way to turn your internal subject-matter experts into visible, credible sources for both humans and AI.

Most buying happens before a call—so if you’re not answering buyer questions up front, the algorithms (and the humans) move on. Gini Dietrich provides a no-fluff visibility engineering sprint to help you prepare for a January launch.

Most of the decision happens before sales. In this episode, Gini Dietrich breaks down Visibility Engineering and how to use the PESO Model© to build anchor hubs that become the safest thing to cite, earn analyst/AI reuse, and measure results. You’ll leave with a copy-and-paste Anchor Hub outline and a 30-day action plan.

In a collapsed-funnel world, “action-oriented” isn’t a button—it’s a byproduct of trust. Today, Gini Dietrich digs into how reputation becomes rank (and revenue), the metrics that prove it, and a simple PESO Model© sequence to lower your cost to convert. Share this episode with a friend, exec, or client who’s stuck debating brand vs. performance.

AI collapsed drafting time—but clients still buy certainty: accuracy, brand safety, and results.  In this episode, Gini Dietrich lays out a practical playbook to stop itemizing hours and start contracting standards, so you keep fees (and win bigger scopes) in the AI era. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to explain “AI speed” without triggering a discount The 10 clauses to codify standards (prove...

The internet isn’t dead—it’s haunted. This week, Gini Dietrich explores the “dead internet” theory and why bots now outnumber humans online, which changes how we plan, measure, and defend our brands.  You’ll learn how to replace vanity metrics with human signals, ship proof-of-work content (original data, named experts, receipts), add provenance to your media, and rewire your PESO Model for verifi...

Synthetic sparks, real fires.  Gini Dietrich unpacks how bot-created boycotts inflate “consensus,” jump to real influencers, and turn into costly crises.  This episode gives you a practical, hour-one playbook: capture an authenticity snapshot, choose your lane, debunk without oxygen via a single owned explainer, and use paid/shared/earned intentionally.  She also covers the fast tells of inauthent...

In today’s episode, we put you in the boardroom and show exactly why the current stack can’t answer the ROI question—then we install an operating system. What you’ll learn: • The ~$500B blind spot: marketing without an OS • How a PESO Model© OS creates clarity, efficiency, and revenue attribution • The cost of waiting (and what early adopters are seeing) • A Boardroom Checklist you can use this qu...

Generative AI is sliding into the “Trough of Disappointment.” The Atlantic is warning of an AI bubble. And if you’re a CMO chasing disconnected AI pilots without a plan, you could be next. In this episode, Gini Dietrich explains why PESO isn’t just a model—it’s the operating system that prevents AI from becoming another overhyped, underperforming fad. You’ll learn: Why CMOs keep getting burned by...

Ten billion dollars in pharma advertising just got a whole lot less effective. With Trump’s new memo cracking down on DTC ads—TV, social, digital, influencers, even online pharmacies—your pipeline may be at risk. In this episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich explains why disclosure-heavy ads will crush acquisition costs, how competitors are already shifting to PESO Model® strategies, an...

For too long, marketing and communications have been judged by clicks, impressions, and vanity metrics. But those numbers don’t move a boardroom.  Executives talk about pipeline, revenue, market share, and shareholder value. If your work isn’t tied to those outcomes, you’re invisible where it matters most. In this episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich introduces The Visibility Engineer’...

For decades, we’ve built personas around titles, demographics, and buyer journeys. But today, your most important persona doesn’t have a job title—it has an algorithm. In this episode, Gini Dietrich explains why AI platforms like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity are no longer just tools—they’re the gatekeepers shaping your category. You’ll learn: Why AI personas are necessary today How these platfo...

Your reputation isn’t just what people say anymore—it’s what machines decide is true. In this episode of Spin Sucks, Gini Dietrich explains why structured trust is the new currency of reputation—and how AI tools are already encoding your brand. If your data is inconsistent, outdated, or missing, you’re invisible (or worse, misrepresented). She covers what structured trust actually means (and why i...

On this week’s Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich digs into IBM’s new CMO Revolution study and what it means for the future of marketing leadership. The report makes one thing clear: the next decade won’t belong to the marketers with the biggest budgets. It will belong to the CMOs with operational courage—those willing to dismantle outdated systems and rebuild for an AI-powered marketplace moving a...

PR is powering AI visibility—and communicators are more essential than ever. In this episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich breaks down how brand mentions, structured trust signals, and consistent PESO execution are shaping whether your brand shows up in AI-generated answers. The tools may have changed, but the strategy? Still rock solid. You’ll walk away with: A more clear understanding...

Your job title hasn’t changed. But your responsibilities have. In today’s episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich breaks down what it means to be a Visibility Engineer—and why communications pros are now at the center of AI-driven brand discovery. You’ll learn: Why 95% of AI citations come from non-paid sources (and how to get yours included) How to translate traditional comms skills into...

What do you get when you combine a Coldplay concert, a viral Kiss Cam moment, a silent startup, and Gwyneth Paltrow? A crisis communications case study for the ages. In this episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich breaks down the real-time brand meltdown sparked by a now-infamous Kiss Cam and what every comms pro can learn from it.  You'll learn why timing is everything, how to prevent an...

AI doesn't see you if your marketing content is brilliant but disconnected. And if AI doesn’t see you, neither do your customers. In this episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich unpacks the discovery crisis—how AI is quietly reshaping the buyer journey, and what it means for brands that haven’t integrated their content strategies. Spoiler alert: the old SEO playbook won’t cut it. Join the...

Generative AI search is rewriting how people find, trust, and engage with information—and communicators are uniquely positioned to lead in this new world. In this episode, Gini Dietrich breaks down why authoritative mentions, trust, and brand signals—PR’s bread and butter—are now the currency of visibility in an AI-first world. If you’re ready to stop chasing algorithms and start building durable...

If audiences have fragmented attention and trust is harder to earn, what do you need to do? You don't need to burn it all down. It's about aligning your strategy to what works now. Gini Dietrich discusses how you can adapt the PESO Model© to function in a zero-click, zero-share world and how to structure your strategy for discover, trust, and measurable traction.

Remember when clicks, shares, and impressions were reliable measures of success? Those days are gone. In this episode, Gini Dietrich breaks down why AI-generated answers, algorithm-controlled feeds, and private, hidden sharing have fundamentally changed how audiences discover and trust your content. We’re living in a zero-click, zero-share, zero-visit world—and traditional marketing tactics are lo...