Michael Goldwater
The Shape of Dialogue
The Shape of Dialogue podcast focuses on the foundational principles that make societies function at their best. It initially started with an investigation into free speech, it continues to discuss relevant and interesting topics about our world and how best to navigate through it.
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Michael Goldwater
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Mar 29, 2026
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Episodes
TRANS - Biology or Ideology? with Helen Joyce - The Shape of Dialogue #23 05.05.2024 1:28:28
Helen Joyce is a journalist and was a staff writer for The Economist between 2005 and 2022. Helen held various leading positions at The Economist, including education editor, Brazil correspondent, International editor, Finance editor and Britain editor. Helen's first book, "Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality," was published by OneWorld in July 2021. It was reissued in 2023 under the new title...
Avoiding Bias With Science with Richard Dawkins - The Shape of Dialogue #22 05.04.2024 1:06:20
Richard Dawkins - https://richarddawkins.com/ In February 2023, Richard Dawkins asked me to host his New Zealand speaking tour. Today's podcast is the Auckland event, in which Richard discusses the scientific method, his recent book Flights of Fancy, and the debate surrounding the inclusion of non-scientific Māori mythological concepts in the New Zealand school science curriculum. Richard needs no...
Curriculum Update – Nick Matzke - The Shape of Dialogue #21 20.12.2023 1:04:56
About Nick Matzke - https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/n-matzke Background In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in...
Save Our Schools – Education – Michael Johnston - The Shape of Dialogue #20 03.08.2023 1:14:50
Save Our Schools Report https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/reports-and-media/reports/save-our-schools-solutions-for-new-zealands-education-crisis/document/797 Dr Michael Johnston is a Senior Fellow at the New Zealand Initiative. He leads the workstream on education. Prior to his time at the Initiative, Dr Johnston held academic positions at Victoria University of Wellington from 2011-2022. From 2020...
China's Genocide - Jewher Ilham - The Shape of Dialogue #19 13.07.2023 1:03:25
Jewher Ilham https://www.allstaticandnoise.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/jewherilham Jewher Ilham: A Uyghur's Fight to Free Her Father (Broken Silence) https://www.amazon.com/Jewher-Ilham-Uyghurs-Father-Silence/dp/1608011054 Ilham Tohti : http://www.ilhamtohti.com/ Uyghur Forced Labor Checker https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/uyghur-forced-labor-check/ejodaepockllkcloibcchpjnfoopincp Uy...
All Static & Noise - Genocide in China - The Shape of Dialogue #18 21.06.2023 1:33:35
Director David Novack talks about All Static & Noise, his documentary on the Uyghur genocide in western China. www.allstaticandnoise.com www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088787521406 https://www.instagram.com/allstaticandnoise/ https://twitter.com/allstatic_noise https://www.odessafilms.com/our-films.html https://www.odessafilms.com/david-novack.html https://www.ohchr.org/en/pres...
Doc Edge & The UnRedacted with Alex Lee - The Shape of Dialogue #17 10.04.2023 1:05:24
Alex Lee, co-founder and director of the Doc Edge International Documentary Film Festival, talks about the worldwide banning of Meg Smaker's feature-length documentary, "The Unredacted (Jihad Rehab)". The film follows a group of men trained by al-Qaeda who are transferred from Guantanamo and sent to the world's first rehabilitation centre for "terrorists" in Saudi Arabia. Alex talks about why New...
Identity, Mitochondrial Gene Transfer & Science with Mike Berridge - The Shape of Dialogue #16 19.03.2023 2:07:39
Professor Mike Berridge completed a doctoral degree in cell biology at the University of Auckland in 1971 exploring the mechanism of action of plant growth hormones. Following postdoctoral research in developmental molecular biology at Purdue University, USA, and experience as a staff scientist at National Institute for Medical Research, Mill Hill, UK, he returned to Wellington in 1976 as the seco...
Metaphors with Steven Pinker The Shape of Dialogue #15 08.12.2022 55:00
Steven Pinker is an experimental psychologist who conducts research in visual cognition, psycholinguistics, and social relations. He grew up in Montreal and earned his BA from McGill and his PhD from Harvard. Currently Johnstone Professor of Psychology at Harvard, he has also taught at Stanford and MIT. He has won numerous prizes for his research, his teaching, and his books, including ...
Mātauranga Māori with Charles Royal - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #14 08.08.2022 1:58:58
About Charles Royal - http://www.charles-royal.nz/ In 2021, 7 University of Auckland professors penned a letter to the editor in the Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in the science classroom. The report states: ”Our go...
Non-science in the science classroom with Professor Anthony Poole The Shape of Dialogue #13 07.06.2022 1:12:28
Professor Anthony Poole School of Biological Sciences University of Auckland https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/appo310 Professor Poole’s Articles Japan’s path to becoming a leader in Western science: an Asian perspective on science and other forms of knowledge (short version) Japan’s path to becoming leaders in ‘Western’ science: an Asian perspective on science and other forms of knowledge (lon...
Mātauranga Māori & the Science Curriculum with Paul Kilmartin The Shape of Dialogue # 12 31.05.2022 1:13:36
Professor Paul Kilmartin - https://unidirectory.auckland.ac.nz/profile/p-kilmartin In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled "In Defence of Science". The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum,...
Occam's Razor & Science with Professor Johnjoe McFadden - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #11 30.03.2022 1:23:06
This is part of an ongoing investigation into what is and isn't science and whether indigenous "ways of knowings" have a scientific basis. In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauran...
Mātauranga Māori & Science with Dr Daniel Hikuroa -The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #10 17.02.2022 1:09:46
Dr Daniel Hikuroa discusses Mātauranga Māori and its relationship to science and why he believes aspects of Mātauranga Māori should be included in the school science curriculum. About Dr Daniel Hikuroa - www.maramatanga.co.nz/person/dr-daniel-hikuroa Context to this conversation...... A New Zealand Government education report (see link below) is recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori [tradi...
Science vs "Other Ways of Knowing" with Professor Jerry Coyne - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast # 9 06.02.2022 1:40:49
About Jerry Coyne - www.whyevolutionistrue.com/about/ Jerry’s Why Evolution Is True blog - “Ways of knowing” - https://tinyurl.com/3tmmx59d Email Royal Society of New Zealand chief executive paul.atkins@royalsociety.org.nz Context In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' we...
What is science? with Professor Steven Pinker - The Shape of Dialogue # 8 10.12.2021 39:14
In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in the science classroom. The report states: ”Our goal is to ensure parity...
Antiracism rhetoric with Dr Erec Smith - The Shape of Dialogue # 7 15.11.2021 1:19:23
Dr Erec Smith is an Associate Professor of Rhetoric at York College of Pennsylvania. Although he has eclectic scholarly interests, Dr Smith’s primary focus is on the rhetorics of anti-racist activism, theory, and pedagogy. He is a co-founder of Free Black Thought, a website dedicated to highlighting viewpoint diversity within the black intelligentsia. Dr Smith is a Writing Fellow for Heterodox Aca...
What is science? with Dr Kyle Gibson - The Shape of Dialogue # 6 14.09.2021 1:49:25
A recent "letter to the editor" penned by seven University of Auckland professors was published in The Listener, a national magazine in New Zealand - see below. The letter, In Defence of Science, stated that a Ministry of Education working group's proposed curriculum changes were "perpetuating misunderstandings of science". The letter objected to the working groups assumptions that "science has be...
Street Epistemology with Anthony Magnabosco - The Shape of Dialogue # 5 13.12.2020 1:13:34
Anthony Magnabosco is a skeptic and atheist from San Antonio Texas who has been practicing and promoting Street Epistemology since 2013. Anthony has had several hundred chats (many of them on camera and uploaded to his YouTube channel ) on a variety of claims including Gods, ghosts, karma, law of attraction, and a variety of social and political topics. Anthony has been interview...
Freedom of Speech with Elliot Ikilei - The Shape of Dialogue # 4 06.10.2020 2:10:21
Elliot Ikilei discusses freedom of speech and other things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Ikilei Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spiritu/1053521016
Freedom of Speech with Simon Wilson - The Shape of Dialogue # 3 03.09.2020 54:46
Leading New Zealand journalist, Simon Wilson, discusses freedom of speech. Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spiritu/1053521016
Freedom of Speech with Professor James Flynn - The Shape of Dialogue #2 03.09.2020 41:19
My first guest is a world-renowned political and moral philosopher, University of Otago's Emeritus Professor James Flynn defines what freedom of speech is and why it's so important to us all. Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spiritu/1053521016
Freedom of Speech with Michael Goldwater - The Shape of Dialogue #1 03.09.2020 20:24
An investigation into freedom of speech and why it's so important. In this episode I'll discuss why and how freedom of speech is a fundamental principle for societies to function at their best. Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spiritu/1053521016
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