Toussaint Williams, PhD

The Serving Second Podcast

Business EN ↓ 35 episodes

The Serving Second Podcast with Dr. Toussaint Williams celebrates the unsung heroes of leadership—the associates, assistants, vice presidents, and right-hand leaders who make vision possible from the second chair. Not everyone wears the top title, but every leader carries weight. Through biblical insight, leadership lessons, and practical takeaways, discover how to win—even when you come in second. Subscribe and be equipped to lead with confidence, clarity, and courage.

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Toussaint Williams, PhD

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Business

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Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

They Called YOU For A Reason! - Dr. Vandeon Griffin 13.02.2026

Dr. Vandeon Griffin shares his journey as an associate youth director for the North American Division of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. He discusses the transition from a first chair leadership role to a second chair position, emphasizing the importance of teamwork, clear communication, and building trust within a leadership team. Dr. Griffin highlights the joys and challenges of serving in a s...

Faith that Fights 13.02.2026

Time to put up or shut up!!! Faith requires action! Summary In this conversation, Dr. Toussaint Williams explores the theme of faith in leadership, particularly focusing on the biblical figure Jonathan from 1 Samuel. He emphasizes that true faith requires action, often in the face of uncertainty and adversity. The discussion highlights the importance of courage, integrity, and the ability to inspi...

Unsung Heroes: Ava Willis-Barksdale 13.02.2026

Serving Second at an HBCU - the Joys and Challenges! Mrs. Ava Willis-Barksdale shares her insights on the unique challenges and rewards of serving in a second chair leadership role. She discusses the duality of being a second, the importance of humility, and the joy found in supporting others. Ava emphasizes the need for ownership in leadership, navigating feelings of invisibility, and the signifi...

Warriors Serve in Silence 13.02.2026

Toussaint explores the challenges and rewards of serving in a secondary role. He emphasizes the importance of character, discipline, and the unseen work that builds strong leaders. Drawing lessons from historical figures like Admiral McRaven and Harriet Tubman, he highlights that true strength lies in quiet consistency and faithfulness, even when recognition is absent. The episode encourages liste...

What Myron Learned Leaving the Spotlight 14.01.2026

Summary In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Toussaint Williams engages in a heartfelt conversation with Dr. Myron P. Edmonds about the journey of second chair leaders and the importance of serving others. Myron shares his transition from pastoral ministry to focusing on men's personal development, discussing the challenges and fears associated with stepping into obscurity. The conve...

How to Stay Aligned When Everything Shifts 11.12.2025

HAVE THE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS... Multiple times!!! In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Toussaint Williams emphasizes the importance of clarity and alignment in leadership, particularly for those in second chair roles. He draws lessons from the biblical relationship between Jonathan and David, highlighting how reaffirmation and open communication can strengthen partnerships and pr...

Singing When the Song Isn't About You 27.11.2025

How do you sing with the song is about someone else??? Summary In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Toussaint explores the theme of leadership from the second chair, emphasizing the importance of celebrating others' successes and the role of gratitude in leadership. Through the story of Jonathan and David, he illustrates how mature leaders can appreciate the achievements of others wh...

Power Shared is Power Multiplied 23.10.2025

If you can't share, you shouldn't lead! In this episode of Serving Second, Dr. Toussaint Williams explores the concept of leadership through the lens of Jonathan and David's relationship. He emphasizes the importance of giving away power, sharing resources, and the vulnerability that comes with true leadership. The discussion highlights how Jonathan's actions symbolize trust and support, and how l...

You Never Lose When You Serve 16.10.2025

This episode explores the themes of leadership, service, and privilege through the story of Jonathan, the heir to Saul. He shares personal insights from his life as a middle child, emphasizing the importance of choosing service over competition. Keywords leadership, service, privilege, Jonathan, Saul, middle child, competition, covenant Takeaways Jonathan deserved the crown but chose to serve. Ser...

You did not get the title. Now what? 09.10.2025

How do you serve when you don't get the position? Is service based on position or purpose? In this the very first episode of Serving Second, Dr. Toussaint Williams explores the journey of individuals in second chair roles, emphasizing that being overlooked does not diminish one's value or purpose. Through biblical examples, particularly the story of David and Jonathan, he discusses the importance...

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