The Secret Library Podcast

I cannot think of a more perfect episode to release this week than Manda Scott's. We recorded this a few months ago, and even then we strayed into a subject that will speak loud and clear to everyone listening this week: how is it possible to stay focused and motivated when things are tough out in the world. Manda and I were discussing her ability to persevere in writing her most recent novel, Tre...

Every time Sarah Selecky and I get together to talk about writing, I feel a little high afterward. This conversation was no exception and, in many ways, this one had me buzzing more than any of the ones we've had before. Sarah was the first person to convince me that revision wasn't a dirty word and that it could even be something enjoyable. The thing that gets in the way of enjoying the process i...

When people speak about revision, it's usually long after the book has come out. I wanted to make sure that we spoke about revision from the inside this season, so I was delighted that Olivia and Meghan from Marginally, my writing podcast pals, were open to coming on and sharing about the projects they are currently revising. Once again, you get the insight of two guests in one episode. We discuss...

I have abandoned more than one novel because the historical research terrified me. When we got the the topic of historical research and revision, I knew I needed an expert to bring on. Luckily for us, historian Sarah-Jane Stratford has a new novel out, Red Letter Days, about the impact of the Black List on women writers. Her previous novel, Radio Girls, was about the early days of the BBC Radio an...

When Chip Cheek first came on the show, he told me a crazy story about his first draft When writing his novel Cape May, Chip wasn’t 100% certain what time period it would be set in. So he wrote each chapter in a different era and, when he was finished, he met with his writing group and they all discussed the pros + cons of each, eventually settling on the 1950s. The amazing thing is that, to us re...

Wow am I glad Rachael Herron and J Thorn came on for this season. In this conversation, we get two author perspectives for the price of one, covering both the underwriter perspective and the overwriter. In addition, we go through their revision processes step by step from reviewing the complete foundation draft the first time to how they work through and make all the edits to their manuscript. Whe...

Season Two of the podcast begins today with one of my favorite guests from the first half of the show: Jade Chang. Author of The Wangs vs. The World, her novel has so many plates to keep spinning: multiple perspectives, historical events, characters of many different ages and experiences, and the hardest thing of all: humor. I had to know how Jade succeeded in balancing all these complex elements...

For quite a long time, I've wondered if we could pull off a live episode. So when Elizabeth Duvivier's debut novel was due to come out and my friend Susannah Conway floated the idea of my coming over to London to moderate Elizabeth's book launch, it seemed like the perfect opportunity to realize this dream. I have to say, it worked out even better than I could have imagined. Elizabeth's book is go...

This July, I happened to meet Philippa Gregory at a party. Let's be clear - I never dreamed I would write a sentence like that, especially after moving away from Los Angeles. Even more surprising, I managed to have a coherent conversation with her about books and writing, to the point where she generously invited me over to record an episode talking about her latest book, Tidelands, and writing in...

Three and a half years into hosting The Secret Library, something changed. I started this show in the spring of 2016, eager to crack the code on writing books. There was plenty of information about craft, but not so much about the fortitude needed to sit down day after day and actually write and publish something meaningful. I’d been writing and discarding drafts of novels for nearly a decade and...

The idea of an emotional outline is one of the greatest discoveries I've had while recording an episode. Speaking with Meg Wolitzer was fantastic, as she's not only a successful novelist, but also on the faculty for an MFA program. I love writers who are able to discuss the process from multiple viewpoints, as it is this overlap that often brings huge insight. Of course, we all have thought about...

I had read many of Ruth Reichl's books by the time she came on the show. I adored Tender at the Bone and remembered it from years ago. My husband and I count the recipe for grilled cheese in My Kitchen Year among our very favorites. I had wanted to interview Ruth about her incredible ability to draw the reader into the story as if you were sitting at the same table with her, listening. So imagine...

Greta Solomon found an amazing writing technique the last place she expected: in training to be a songwriter. In her new book, Heart Sass and Soul, Greta shares a vast array of incredible journaling techniques to help you connect to your true writing voice, but my favorite of them all was called Object Writing. Greta and I go through it in detail and explore how this method - well known to songwri...

When people kept asking me about joining writing groups, I knew who needed to come on the show. Judy Reeves has been leading writing groups, online and off, for decades. In this episode, we talk about setting your intentions for a group, the pros and cos of various formats and how the find a group that will help take your writing forward. We were both so excited after recording that we were ready...

Anna Pitoniak has the ultimate inside experience: she was a big five editor before publishing her first novel. Now that she's back with a second novel, it was so helpful to talk to Anna about how knowing how editing works behind the scenes impacted her writing. Many of us fear editing, and worry that someone else reading our work will result it it getting torn apart. Anna had first-hand experience...

Allison Pataki never planned to write a memoir. As a successful historical fiction author, Allison was very happy researching the worlds of people from the past and staying far from her personal life when writing. But when her husband experienced a sudden stroke in his early 30s, leaving her his caregiver as well as a new mother in the span of a few months, everything changed. Allison began this b...

In the first draft of his novel, Cape May, Chip Cheek made a beautiful mess. Chip wasn't sure what era he wanted his novel to be set in, so during his first draft, he wrote the book in all of them. How might he do that, you may ask. As he explained it, he started the first chapter in one time period, then tried another option in the next chapter and then so on through the whole book. He checked in...

When I heard the words "encrypted diary" I knew I had to speak to Anne Choma about Anne Lister. I could not put Anne Choma's book down. So many times, when I've seen a film or show about a historical figure and I get hooked, I immediately run to whatever source material to dive deeper and find out more about the person in real life. How often I have wished for a book like this, which goes deep int...

Often, the way you treat sex in a book determines where it is shelved in the shop. If the sex is too exciting, or strays outside the usual fare your book could be moved to the Erotica section or even find itself excluded from your neighborhood bookshop. I have always found this fascinating, as no matter how violent your book is, or how graphic a murder your include, there isn't the same risk as wi...

What happens when your editor asks you to change a major plot point? Martine Fournier Watson was faced with a curveball late in the publishing process with her first novel, The Dream Peddler. Even after selling the manuscript to a major publishing house, her editor had notes that involved changing an important part of the plot. She wasn't sure if she'd be able to pull off what they were asking, bu...

At about 40, there is a new level of clarity about the urgency of being creative. I was delighted to speak with Kusi Okamura, Editor of The Wild Word magazine and the publisher of Mike Hembury's novel New Clone City, which we discussed a few episodes back. We get into detail about how Kusi created the press, the process of publishing Mike's book from her vantage point, as well as the beauty of tak...

Akiko Busch wanted to look at how invisibility could be a superpower. These days, so much of our time is spent worrying about how to be more visible as writers. Do we have enough presence on social media? Will a publisher accept our book if we send it to them, or will enough readers find our books if we publish them ourselves? In the midst of this intense quest for visibility and transparency in a...

Maisie Dobbs has been a favorite character of mine for years. So when I found out that Jacqueline Winspear had TWO books coming out this March, I knew we had to have her on the show. I have been a dedicated reader of this brilliant series since the beginning, as this unconventional detective navigates life after WWI and now well into WWII. Jacqueline spoke very eloquently about the impact her fami...

Most people don't have to face all their worst fears in a single week. Raynor Winn and her husband were left homeless when an investment went bad. Within days, her husband Moth received a terrifying medical diagnosis that predicted a dramatic decline. What did they do? They decided to wild camp (that's camping without campgrounds or rules, for those outside the UK) and walk the over 600 miles of t...

Most people have heard the rhyme about Lizzie Borden and forty whacks of an axe. But most don't know the case behind the rhyme and the trial that enthralled the nation in the late 1800s. Well before there was OJ, there was Lizzie Borden. Cara Robertson first wrote about the trial in undergraduate school at Harvard and the story stayed with her. Over the past decades, the idea of documenting the tr...