Rod J. Naquin
The Science of Dialogue
Hi, I'm Rod J. Naquin and this is the Science of Dialogue. As an active classroom teacher, I explore how strategic dialogue transforms classroom practice and educational leadership through the messy realities of real schools, real students, and the persistent problems that define our work. Follow @rodjnaquin and rodjnaquin.substack.com.
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Feb 23, 2026
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Episodes
Talk as learning 05.05.2025 14:54
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue examine how structured dialogue reshapes learning. Drawing from classical dialogue theory (Nikulin, 2006) and contemporary classroom research (Brooks, 2025), he shows that intentional conversation does more than engage - it transforms how students think and learn.
Text is not dialogue 28.04.2025 14:09
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue reveals text dominates classrooms, while humans naturally learn through mimesis and dialogue (Donald, 2006; Nikulin, 2006, 2010).
A deep dive on interactive alignment 22.04.2025 10:36
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue explores how natural conversation beats formal speech in learning through 'interactive alignment' - where speakers unconsciously sync mental models (Garrod & Pickering 2004, Branigan et al. 2000, Garrod & Anderson 1987).
Disambiguating dialogue 07.04.2025 12:51
This week, Rod J. Naquin explores the Science of Dialogue , revealing how educational leaders can transform communication by distinguishing between dialogue types (Angel), understanding personal interactions (Miller), and designing purposeful communication strategies (Scott).
Vibe writing is what we should all be doing 31.03.2025 13:07
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue reveals how AI transforms writing education, proposing "vibe writing" - teaching students to direct AI content rather than just compose. The shift mirrors workplace trends (Bowen 2014, Chen 2025, Farrell et al. 2025, Goldsmith 2011, Krishnan 2025, Willison 2025).
What does anyone mean by curriculum? 24.03.2025 14:30
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue explores how curriculum extends far beyond lesson plans, shaping the hidden and lived experiences of education (Gobby, 2021; Egan, 2003; Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 2023).
Untimely questions in educational leadership 17.03.2025 10:11
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue explores how Socratic dialogue can transform school leadership through strategic questioning and reflective practice (Aliaj 2021, Callard 2025, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 2022).
The AI discourse is so wrong 10.03.2025 9:30
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue explore the polarized views of AI in education, arguing for practical solutions over abstract debates. (Bearman et al. 2023, Kim et al. 2024, Newton 2024)
From belief to practice 24.02.2025 8:08
This week, Rod J. Naquin and the Science of Dialogue explore how educational leaders navigate complex conversations, testing beliefs and avoiding common argumentative pitfalls while fostering productive dialogue in schools (Hansen, 2015; Novaes, 2021; Peirce, 1877).
Leading through paradox 17.02.2025 10:03
This week, Rod J. Naquin and The Science of Dialogue explores how apophatic theory and paradox management can transform modern leadership, suggesting that breakthroughs come not from solving problems, but from transcending how we think about them (Smith & Tushman, 2005).
What to know about Louisiana's NAEP results 10.02.2025 10:50
This week, Rod J. Naquin and The Science of Dialogue examines how Louisiana's Content Leaders program and curriculum reforms have boosted student achievement, contributing to the state's notable gains in recent NAEP reading scores.
Many voices make the school 03.02.2025 11:52
This week, Rod J. Naquin and The Science of Dialogue explore how effective school leadership arises from the interplay of diverse voices. Drawing on recent research on leadership dialectics, he demonstrates why creating space for multiple perspectives is crucial for meaningful educational change. (Bakhtin, 1981; Cooren & Sandler, 2014; Fairhurst & Collinson, 2023; Zola, 2016)
Why can't we all just agree? 27.01.2025 8:43
This week, Rod J. Naquin in The Science of Dialogue looks at why school discussions often go nowhere. The problem? People are using different types of argument without realizing it, while also having very different ideas about what counts as knowledge and evidence (Aristotle, trans. 2007; Neta, 2024; Rapp, 2024).
Learning Styles won't die 21.01.2025 8:13
This week, Rod J. Naquin and The Science of Dialogue examines why learning styles theory persists in education despite overwhelming evidence against it, revealing how "essentially contested concepts" in education resist simple debunking and reflect deeper complexities in how we understand learning differences (Willingham et al., 2015; Collier et al., 2006; Shemshack & Spector, 2020).
Moving beyond dichotomous discourse 13.01.2025 8:46
This week, Rod J. Naquin and The Science of Dialogue explores how educational leaders can break free from "either/or" thinking, suggesting that embracing paradox leads to better solutions in schools (Lefstein et al., 2017; Smith & Lewis, 2011; Schad et al., 2017).
5: Bakhtin's dialogism 18.11.2024 11:50
In this episode of The Science of Dialogue, host Rod J. Naquin explores Mikhail Bakhtin's theory of dialogism, examining how authentic dialogue is essential to human existence and its powerful implications for transforming education.
4: Teacher Collaborative Discourse 08.11.2024 8:18
In this episode of 'The Science of Dialogue,' host Rod J Naquin unpacks a landmark 2020 study that reveals what makes teacher conversations truly impactful for professional growth. Drawing from an analysis of 64 research papers, he explores proven dialogue techniques and common pitfalls in teacher collaboration, offering practical insights for educators and school leaders.
3: Toward Dialogic Computing 02.10.2024 13:25
In this episode, host Rod J. Naquin examines Vilém Flusser's media philosophy on technical images, Roland Barthes' radical rethinking of authorship and the reader's role in "The Death of the Author," and the 2024 study "Backwards Planning with Generative AI" on teachers using AI for instructional planning. These perspectives illuminate the emerging dynamics of dialogic computing between humans and...
2: Human-computer Interaction 18.09.2024 10:28
In this episode, host Rod J. Naquin examines three influential works that have shaped our understanding of human-computer interaction. We explore Licklider's vision of "Man-Computer Symbiosis," Hoey's theory of "Lexical Priming," and Pickering and Garrod's "Interactive Alignment" model. These foundational ideas illuminate the complex dynamics between human...
1: Foundations of Dialogic Computing 10.09.2024 11:02
In this season premiere of The Science of Dialogue, we explore the fascinating world of dialogic computing. Host Rod J. Naquin examines three influential ideas: Mikhail Bakhtin's theory of dialogue, Alan Turing's work on machine intelligence, and John Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment. These perspectives illuminate the complex landscape of human-computer interaction, setting the...
9: What is the science of dialogue? 29.05.2024 14:14
In the season finale of The Science of Dialogue, host Rod J. Naquin tackles a fundamental question: Is there truly a science of dialogue, and if so, what does it entail? To unravel this, Rod examines three influential frameworks - Bakhtin's dialogism, Austin's speech act theory, and the interactive alignment model. These diverse perspectives, from language as inherently social to dialogue...
8: How does uncertainty intersect with dialogue? 30.04.2024 12:25
In this episode of The Science of Dialogue, host Rod J. Naquin explores a fundamental question: How does dialogue help us navigate uncertainty and generate knowledge? To unravel this, Rod examines three influential perspectives - epistemology's approach to knowledge amidst doubt, Kuhn's theory of scientific revolutions, and Wittgenstein's insights on certainty. These diverse viewpoints...
7: What does mysticism say about dialogue? 11.04.2024 10:13
In this episode of The Science of Dialogue, host Rod J. Naquin explores what mystical traditions have to say about the nature and purpose of dialogue. We'll examine the teachings of the Sufi poet Rumi, who integrated mystical intuition with reasoned discourse. We'll discuss the Hindu philosopher Bhartrihari's view of dialogue as unveiling the oneness connecting consciousness, language...
6: Does dialogue require an open ending? 26.03.2024 9:35
In this episode of The Science of Dialogue, host Rod J. Naquin examines whether dialogue requires an open ending. We'll discuss discursive leadership's embrace of open-ended conversation without predetermined outcomes. We'll cover Wendy Smith's paradox mindset research, showing continuous engagement with tensions rather than resolving them. We'll revisit Mikhail Bakhtin's c...
5: What psychological processes underpin dialogue? 11.03.2024 11:25
In this episode of The Science of Dialogue, host Rod J. Naquin explores how seminal research reveals the social origins of thinking and communicating. We examine Lev Vygotsky's theory that reasoning skills develop first socially, then individually. We discuss Jerome Bruner's work showing how caregiver-child interaction fosters communication. We also explore Mikhail Bakhtin's view of th...
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