Where digital assets meet capital markets. Hosted by Robbie & Andy
The Rollup
Where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Website: https://therollup.co/
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Jul 10, 2026
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Teddy Fusaro on Why Wall Street Is Being Replaced by Crypto 18.03.2026 29:13
Bitwise President Teddy Fusaro breaks down why institutional crypto adoption is just getting started. Teddy Fusaro is President of Bitwise Asset Management, one of the world's leading crypto asset managers. The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro...
Yuki Yuminaga on Why Tokenized Assets Are Broken Onchain 16.03.2026 42:40
Yuki Yuminaga, co-founder of Tenbin, breaks down exactly what's broken and how to fix it. Yuki Yuminaga is the co-founder of Tenbin, a tokenization protocol bringing precious metals, commodities, and yield-bearing FX assets on-chain via CME futures hedging. The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance, live from the Empire...
Crossmint Founder Exposes the Stablecoin vs. Credit Card Truth 12.03.2026 44:56
AI is about to automate your entire financial life... Alfonso, co-founder of Crossmint, joins The Rollup to discuss agentic finance, agent-scoped cards, stablecoin infrastructure, and the Western Union stablecoin play. About Alfonso Gómez-Jordana: Co-founder of Crossmint. Former founding PM at Google (reCAPTCHA, Firebase Auth, Actions) and third PM at WhatsApp. Building in crypto since 2012. The R...
Vivek Raman on Why Ethereum Wins the Institutional Race 11.03.2026 40:20
Wall Street is choosing Ethereum, and Vivek Raman explains why the institutional flood is already underway, from tokenized assets and stablecoins to DeFi's coming renaissance and ETH repricing as a reserve asset. About Vivek Raman: Co-founder of Etherealize, bridging Wall Street and Ethereum. The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of ne...
Eric Saraniecki on Why Institutional Blockchains Will Eat Global Finance 10.03.2026 44:38
The back-end of global finance has finally moved. Canton Network co-founder Eric Saranac joins The Rollup to explain this change. About Eric Saranac: Co-Founder of Digital Asset & Canton Network and has spent over a decade building infrastructure to bring real institutional use cases on-chain via Canton Network. The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-fac...
The Great Digital Asset Regime Shift (...And What Comes Next) 10.03.2026 1:03:12
Our industry is going through a major regime shift. The Rollup kicks off its first episode live from the Empire State Building with a deep dive into tokenization, agentic finance, stablecoins, vaults, VC investing, portfolio management, and the consolidation changing this industry forever. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the Empire State Building e...
Joe Lubin: Why the Biggest Banks Are Now Building on Ethereum 06.03.2026 22:46
The old financial system is cracking, and Ethereum is what comes next. Joe Lubin joins The Rollup to cover the end of the trust supercycle, why the world's largest institutions are now deploying on-chain, and how MetaMask is becoming your personal money operating system. Joe Lubin is the Co-Founder of Ethereum and Founder & CEO of Consensys, which is currentlly the leading Ethereum software co...
Why Crypto Is the Next Alternative Asset Class with Hunter Horsley 04.03.2026 21:00
Hunter Horsley, CEO of Bitwise Asset Management, joins The Rollup to discuss the institutionalization of crypto, why the four-year cycle may be a self-fulfilling prophecy, how AI is transforming internal operations, and why allocations are set to grow far beyond what most expect. The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Ti...
George Zeng on Why Your AI Agent Isn't Safe 03.03.2026 21:03
Your AI agent just ordered 5 pizzas, and you couldn't stop it... George Zeng, CPO at NEAR, joins The Rollup to discuss the security flaws in open-source AI agents, why Iron Claw was rebuilt from the ground up in Rust, and what it takes to actually trust an agent with your personal data. George Zeng is one of the leading Layer 1 blockchains focused on user-owned AI and decentralized application...
Erik Voorhees on Building the Uncensored ChatGPT 02.03.2026 17:28
Erik Voorhees, founder of Venice AI and the man behind ShapeShift, crypto's first non-custodial exchange, sat down with The Rollup live at NearCon to make a bold case: the AI industry has a censorship problem, and the crypto ethos is the cure. From the origins of ShapeShift post-Mt. Gox, to why he thinks cryptocurrency was ultimately built for AI agents, to his blunt take on SBF's bid for...
How AI Agents Could Drain Your Crypto Wallet with Brendan Eich from Brave 27.02.2026 27:57
We sit down with Brendan Eich, the creator of JavaScript and CEO of Brave, to cover indirect prompt injection threats, why senior devs still can't trust AI-generated code, and how Brave is building agent security from scratch. We cover: - How Indirect Prompt Injection Actually Works - Why ChatGPT Silently Downgrades Your Security - Can Senior Devs Trust AI-Generated Code? - Brave's Agent M...
How To Prepare For The AI Freight Train - Illia Polosukhin 26.02.2026 32:55
Illia Polosukhin breaks down why AI needs blockchain as its backend, how formal verification could rewrite every line of code online, and what a post-labor economy looks like. We cover: - The Near.com Unified Interface Launch - Why Financial AI Needs Verifiable Privacy - The AI Agent Marketplace Explained - Chinese Open-Source Models vs. US Frontier Models - Cloud Inference Without the CapEx or Da...
The $650M Bet on Crypto's AI Future with Haseeb Qureshi 25.02.2026 30:38
Haseeb from Dragonfly explains why Visa and Mastercard aren't cooked yet, why most crypto x AI plays will fail, and where the real opportunity sits. We cover: - Stablecoins to $2.7 Trillion? - Why AI Agents Won't Use Credit Cards - The "Two Track" Future of Agent Payments - Are Wallets & Front-Ends Cooked? - Micropayments & The SaaS Apocalypse - China Caught Distilling US...
How Tokenization Is Disrupting Legacy Finance (...And What Comes Next) - Bitwise CIO Matt Hougan 19.02.2026 50:59
There is a massive change happening in the world of finance, led by tokenization. Tokenized ETFs, vaults, and new products are moving at lightspeed. Bitwise's Matt Hougan breaks down why institutional DeFi isn't coming, but is already here. He explains why vaults will do to ETFs what ETFs did to mutual funds, and what "neo finance" actually means for your portfolio. We cover: - W...
How Gmoney Mastered OpenClaw to Run His Business 18.02.2026 40:33
Gmoney built an algorithmic trading engine, a personal legal team, an automated content pipeline, and a full website. All of this was done through OpenClaw running on a Mac Mini in his house. He walks us through his full Discord setup, how he spawned sub-agents like Saul Goodman for contracts and Milhouse for research, and why his OpenClaw pitches him new business ideas every morning like a daily...
Banks Are Fighting To Block Stablecoin Yield and Why That's Bullish with Sean Kelley 17.02.2026 31:47
Banks are actively fighting to block yield-bearing stablecoins because they know what's coming. We sit down with Sean Kelley, VP at Frax, to cover how frxUSD is bridging DeFi and TradFi, why RWA looping is attracting institutional capital, and what the GENIUS Act means for stablecoin payments. We cover: - Why Banks Are Terrified of Yield-Bearing Stablecoins - The RWA Looping Strategy Instituti...
The Aave Will Win Framework with Stani Kulechov 13.02.2026 51:22
Aave Labs is at its most critical crossroads. The "Aave Will Win Framework" proposes sending 100% of product revenue to the DAO in exchange for annual funding unifying Labs and token holders under one vision. Stani Kulechov breaks down how v4, consumer apps, and brand governance position Aave to finance the future. We cover: - The "Aave Will Win" Framework Explained - How v4...
Santiago Santos: My New Crypto Investing Playbook 12.02.2026 40:25
Crypto's valuation disconnect is real. Santiago Roel Santos breaks down why tokens don't compound value like equities, how infrastructure became commoditized, and where actual value capture happens now. DeFi applications are criminally undervalued while L1s trade at 90% of market cap despite shrinking fee share. We cover: - Why Infrastructure Became Commoditized - The Token vs Equity Desig...
Iron Claw & the Future of Privacy-First AI Agents with NEAR, Dash & Starkware 11.02.2026 40:01
Open source AI agents are leaking credentials within days of launch. In today's NEAR Intents privacy panel, Illia Polosukhin, NEAR Co-founder, unveils Iron Claw, a security-first framework isolating credentials from prompt injections. Joel Valenzuela from Dash explores privacy in agentic payments, and Eli Ben-Sasson from Starkware discusses post-quantum security. Together, they reveal why priv...
Why ETH-Backed Stablecoins Will Beat Bank-Backed Stablecoins with Michael Svoboda 10.02.2026 39:07
What if your stablecoin didn't depend on banks or any centralized entity? Michael Svoboda, Liquity CEO, explains the case for fully decentralized stablecoins: peer-to-peer credit markets where borrowers pay holders directly, 8-15% yields with zero counterparty risk, and true sovereignty. We cover: - The Hidden Counterparty Risk in Treasury-Backed Stables - Why ETH-Backed Stablecoins Offer True...
The Privacy Problem No One's Talking About in AI with George Zeng 06.02.2026 47:48
Open Claw hit 163,000 GitHub stars in days, but most people are setting it up wrong and risking total financial ruin by having their data harvested. George Zeng from NEAR breaks down why both OpenAI and Anthropic harvest your data, how to run AI agents securely, and why local models cost 90% less. We cover: - Why Anthropic's Super Bowl Ads Expose The Real Problem - Open Claw's Vertical Growth (0 t...
Alchemy CEO: Why AI Agents Need Crypto More Than Humans Do with Nikhil Viswanathan 05.02.2026 22:47
Consumer apps are becoming neo-banks, and AI agents are becoming first-class financial citizens Today, Nikil Viswanathan from Alchemy explains how Starbucks-style balance loading will reshape banking, why agents need crypto more than humans do, and how his autonomous agent Dave built its own website and portfolio over a single weekend. We cover: - How Starbucks Pioneered the Neo-Banking Model- Why...
How Codex is Taking Over The $7 Trillion FX Market with Haonan Li 03.02.2026 41:27
Stablecoin FX is broken. It's expensive, slow, and built on outdated hierarchies. Haonan Li from Codex explains how crypto rails can flatten these costs and why developing markets, not dollar-euro pairs, are where the real opportunity lies. He breaks down the "Griffin company" approach blending crypto-native tactics with traditional fintech knowledge. We cover: - Why Stablecoin FX Is...
How to Fix Tokenized Securities with Olivia Olivia Vande Woude from Ava Labs 02.02.2026 36:18
Not all tokenized securities are created equal, and most investors don't know what they own. Olivia Vande Woude, Business Development & Tokenization at Ava Labs, explains why structure matters, how vaults are changing institutional access, and what Davos revealed about stablecoins disrupting credit creation. We cover: - SPV Wrappers vs. Real Shareholder Rights - What Davos Revealed About S...
Why Altcoins Are Dead & What's Replacing Them with Bitget CEO, Gracy Chen 31.01.2026 26:50
Exchanges are delisting crypto-native tokens and racing to list tokenized stocks, gold, and commodities instead. In today's episode, Gracy Chen, CEO of Bitget explains why pure crypto tokens are getting delisted and what's actually driving volume now. In today's episode, we sit down with Gracy Chen, CEO of Bitget to cover: - Why October 10th Changed Everything - The Binance Liquidity Crisis Explai...
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