Where digital assets meet capital markets. Hosted by Robbie & Andy

The Rollup

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Modular March EP 5: Value Accrual in The Modular Thesis with Tarun Chitra 23.03.2024

The value accrual model in the modular stack is akin to that of the rise of the early internet. According to Tarun, founder of Gauntlet and a prominent angel investor, we will see more and more specialized usecases for applications which are highly expressive. As a result of this, the need for a modular stack becomes more and more apparent. We really enjoyed this conversation which drew inspiratio...

Modular March EP 4: Modular Appchain Design Choices with Cartesi 23.03.2024

One of the biggest things we are leaning into is the design choices behind the certain builders decisions. We really want to understand why projects are choosing execution environments in specific modular architectures. In today’s video we sit down with Cartesi’s co-founder Felipe to gather insights for builders. We take a dive into the differences between app specific rollups and general purpose...

Modular March EP 3: The Next Modular DA Launch and Avail Trinity 23.03.2024

As you may know, this year in the modular space has been characterized by the rise of modular DA solutions bringing in extremely low costs to txs on rollups. We call this “the modular big bang” where the beginning of the modular expansion begins. Today, we’re diving into the next modular DA solution to launch: Avail. Stemming from Polygon roots, this team is set to launch their mainnet very, very...

Modular March EP 2: Are Shared Sequencers Just Another L1? With NodeKit 23.03.2024

In today’s Modular March presentation, we’re diving into a topic brought to light by Ethereum foundation researcher, Justin Drake. Interoperability has long been a stumbling block in the path to a unified DeFi space. Traditional bridges and their limitations, the high costs associated with proof aggregation, and the challenges of achieving true atomic composability have fragmented the landscape. Y...

Modular March EP 1: Unifying the Modular Ecosystem with Union Build 22.03.2024

Welcome to the first episode of the series of Modular March Presentations. Today, we delve into the zk side of things with Karel, founder of Union Build, a project focused squarely on bringing together modular chains as part of the modular expansion. At its core, Union leverages the principles of modularity and zero-knowledge proofs (ZKPs) to enhance the way different blockchain networks communica...

DeFi by Design EP129: Everything You Need to Know About Zircuit zkEVM 01.03.2024

In today’s podcast, we’re taking a closer look at Zircuit's zkEVM, an innovative L2 focused on going to market in 2024. Zircuit’s leverages zero-knowledge proofs (ZKPs), a groundbreaking approach that ensures transaction validity without compromising privacy. This feature not only enhances the security of transactions by keeping details shielded but also plays a crucial role in scalability. A...

DeFi by Design EP128: Cross-Chain Perps, Blast L2, And Deep Onchain Liquidity 22.02.2024

This was a really fun episode. Alwin is a good character and has some very interesting takes. We talked about Blast a fair bit, as we are particularly interested in the total degen culture going on over at Blast. Truly a chain with a culture, sort of reminds us of the Cosmos early days but less rebellious, more degen. We discussed the Vertex go-to-market strategy on Blast by starting 'Blitz&#3...

DeFi By Design EP127: The State of Crypto Investing in 2024 20.02.2024

If you have been here since day 1, you know we did a podcast with Qiao Wang in 2020 shortly after DeFi summer. What a time to be alive. In todays podcast, we cover a variety of topics, including cross-border payments using stablecoins, the differences between Ethereum and Solana, the significance of L2s, Solana's upcoming upgrade Firedancer, his take on modular vs. monolithic, the state of pri...

DeFi By Design EP126: Restaking and Liquid Staking in the Cosmos Ecosystem Unpacked 15.02.2024

Restaking has grown significantly in the EVM land mindshare, yet people don't realize Cosmos has had restaking for a very long time. Liquid staking has also grown significantly in Cosmos thanks to help of several key players. Today, we'll explore the solutions Persistence One has to offer, and their recent launch of stkDYDX (liquid staked DYDX). The app chain philosophy of Cosmos allows fo...

DeFi by Design EP125: Onchain MEV in DeFi Lending Markets Explained 13.02.2024

There is > $100M of value being extracted every single year from lending markets by MEV. This value is shared with Ethereum validators, yet makes a small difference in the staking yield... In today’s pod, we'll explore how UMA is planning to recapture this value and distribute it to a different set of users. We discuss how integrating MEV modules, particularly Oval, into different protocols...

DeFi by Design EP 124: Where Fluent Fits in the Modular Thesis 08.02.2024

The future is Modular. With the rise of specialized solutions in the blockchain development landscape, we will see more onboarding of devs and better UX for users. In today's podcast we talk with Dino, co-founder of Fluent, a company that is spearheading the development of a zkWasm L2. One of the key aspects of Fluent's platform is its support for two distinct categories of applications: s...

DeFi by Design EP123: Data Availability in The Modular Stack Explained 01.02.2024

As you know, we've become quite the modular blockchain activists and have been focusing on modular rollups quite a bit recently. Today's podcast is a deep dive into how Celestia's Data Availability Sampling (DAS) is changing the way we think about onchain data publishing verification. This modular approach allows for the customization of blockchains for specific use cases, aligning wit...

DeFi By Design EP 122: The Importance of Shared Sequencing in The Modular Thesis 30.01.2024

Change is coming. The era of centralized rollup sequencers is coming to an abrupt halt as builders realize the importance of a shared, decentralized sequencer network to power their censorship-resistant, minimized rollup infrastructure. In today's podcast, we sit down with co-founder of Espresso Systems, Charles Liu, to discuss the possibilities of rollup interoperability and the modular stack...

DeFi by Design EP121: Why We Are Excited About Berachain 25.01.2024

Berachain is real. With takeaways from this podcast such as "your community is actually like a set of offchain validators" and unpacking what "proof of liquidity" really means, we really enjoyed the deep dive with Smokey. We think Berachain is onto something special, with its focus on fostering an authentic community, and redefining liquidity through their innovative proof of l...

DeFi by Design EP120: Sei Network Explained 18.01.2024

Today, we're diving into the world of SEI Network and its role in the parallelization narrative. SEI Network is a solution that's quietly changing the way we navigate EVM challenges and state bloat. With the mainnet launch in August 2023, SEI Network has boasted a sustained time to finality of 390 milliseconds, outpacing even chains like Solana. Not only that, but the SEI token has outperf...

DeFi By Design EP119: The Rise of altVMs in The Modular Stack 11.01.2024

Today, we're diving into the fascinating world of alternative virtual machines (altVMs) and their role in shaping the future of the modular blcokchain future that we are rapidly approaching. In this podcast with Rushi, co-founder of Movement Labs, we'll be exploring the rise of altVMs within the modular stack, addressing the bottleneck issues on Ethereum, and discussing how these innovativ...

DeFi by Design EP118: The Future Is Bright For Arbitrum DAO 05.01.2024

Today, we're shining a spotlight on the Arbitrum DAO, with Steven Goldfeder, the co-founder of Offchain Labs. Offchain Labs has been instrumental in empowering the community and building the way forward. The key highlights from the discussion are around the evolution of the Arbitrum project and its transition to a community-driven initiative. The focus is not just on the technical aspects, but...

DeFi By Design EP117: Why Data Availability Is The Missing Piece To The Modular Blockchain Scaling Puzzle 28.12.2023

Today, we're diving into the world of Avail with co-founder Prabal Banarjee, a 'modular stack' project that's all about user verifiability and data availability. Avail is all about putting the power back into the hands of users, and when asked about value accrual in the modular stack, Prabal made sure to tell us it all comes back to the users. Avail focuses on data availability and...

DeFi by Design EP116: The Resurgence of Cosmos with Sunny Agarwal, Founder of Osmosis 21.12.2023

Osmosis has a chance to solidify the position of the dominant DeFi hub for Cosmos Hub & IBC-based blockchains in the coming year. Seriously. If Sunny can execute this properly, along with the Osmosis community, there's a massive market forming to which Osmosis will capture. Bullish. Very bullish. Our Andy & Rob sat down with Sunny to discuss liquid staking in Cosmos, his involvement wi...

DeFi By Design EP115: Permissionless Interop For The Modular Future with Hyperlane 19.12.2023

Today, we're diving into the realm of Hyperlane, a cutting-edge solution designed to change the way we think about blockchain interoperability and messaging security within the modular blockchain future we are soon to exist in. We aim to help you understand the importance of seamless connectivity and robust security in the DeFi space throughout this pod! That's why we're excited to exp...

DeFi by Design EP114: DeFi Dark Horse Curvance Unpacked 07.12.2023

Today our focus is on Curvance, a platform that soon to be making waves in the crypto space. Curvance is all about providing practical solutions for handling bad debt and preventing market manipulation, particularly through flash loans with its innovative money market design. A much-needed solution in DeFi. Curvance aims to simplify the user experience and provide information on yield opportunitie...

Devconnect Convos: Security Mechanisms & Cryptography with OG Web3Auth Founder Zhen Yu Yong 01.12.2023

Let's talk more about the world of cryptography, particularly secure key generation in the realm of DeFi and crypto. Web3Auth is paving the way for a non-custodial solution that prioritizes user security and asset protection. By focusing on secure authentication and key management, it's setting a new standard for accessing various applications and platforms in the crypto space. Web3Auth of...

Devconnect Convos: Stay Early to Onchain Trends with Flipside's Data Analysis Tech 30.11.2023

If you're a onchain user, you NEED to be using data tracking and onchain tracking services to improve your results. Full stop. In the dark forest, where data dynamics play a pivotal role in shaping the landscape of DeFi lies Flipside, a trailblazer of sorts in the realm of data analysis, governance support, and proactive monitoring within the crypto space. Flipside's multifaceted approach...

Devconnect Convos: Testnets Reimagined with Tenderly 29.11.2023

Tenderly, the goto platform for onchain simulations, has just rolled out a really cool set of features for builders wanting to test in a better capacity. It allows forking networks and conducting simulations, providing a flexible environment for testing and experimentation. This represents a significant leap forward in onchain experimentation, as shown by Bodgans presentation at EpicWeb3 ETH Infra...

DeFi by Design EP113: Integrating Web3 Finance Data into Google Cloud's BigQuery w/ Injective 16.11.2023

Welcome to the next EP of DeFi by Design! Today, we have an exciting episode for you on a leading blockchain platform, which has recently integrated Web3 and Google Cloud for financial services onchain. This, and many other deep dives into modular and scaling technologies, were the subject at hand with CEO Eric Chen. Multiple times, Andy mentions "he wanted to get out of the weeds, but just c...

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